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Hello,

Please approach this from a purely theoretical standpoint, for now, discluding cost and other factors that aren't strictly relevant to the actual lengthening of my bones.

First, here are some stats on me:

Height: 177cm
Wingspan: ~176cm
Age: 18 since March, Growth Plates likely sealed.

My father is at roughly 198cm tall, I do not know my mother so I don't have her height. I wasn't brought up very well and would often get starved, I think my growth was severely stunted for this reason.

My goal height is 195cm. Give or take one or two centimeters but preferably 195cm or above. I don't care too much about proportions - I would likely lengthen my arms along with legs if I do go through with surgery, though my wingspan isn't that important and wouldn't need to be a match. Torso length isn't important to me at all, in any case, I'll look like an enderman which is cool, lol.

I suppose it's clear that my goal is reachable, but what would be the best path? Feel free to account for cost if you think you have a method that is both cost-effective and efficient, don't dismiss any ideas because they are too expensive though.

Feel free to ask further questions, if any.

[Worzezterlire]

Since you’re 18 and likely not individually rich enough to afford this operation; and since you have a ludicrous goal of +18cm, I would say: no, this will not happen, and it’s not healthy to daydream about it.

You could probably aim for 185 when you’re older and have dispensable income.  I can categorically tell you that you will never be 195cm tall.  You would be hard pressed to get to 190cm tall, and that’s assuming everything goes perfectly and you also do arm lengthening.  Realistically, 190cm is not up your alley either.  It’s entirely possible you might your body won’t even tolerate 185cm.  You will probably end up living out your life at 177cm, because you are approaching this childishly like CLL is a change of menswear and not the final solution to debilitating height neurosis.

Focus on college and your career, not trying to be as tall as your freakishly tall dad.  You physically cannot get that tall.  When I see threads like this, it reminds me of 18 year olds asking how to start a hedge fund so they can afford a Ferrari and a Richard Mille watch on financial forums.

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Since you’re 18 and likely not individually rich enough to afford this operation; and since you have a ludicrous goal of +18cm, I would say: no, this will not happen, and it’s not healthy to daydream about it.

You could probably aim for 185 when you’re older and have dispensable income.  I can categorically tell you that you will never be 195cm tall.  You would be hard pressed to get to 190cm tall, and that’s assuming everything goes perfectly and you also do arm lengthening.  Realistically, 190cm is not up your alley either.  It’s entirely possible you might your body won’t even tolerate 185cm.  You will probably end up living out your life at 177cm, because you are approaching this childishly like CLL is a change of menswear and not the final solution to debilitating height neurosis.

Focus on college and your career, not trying to be as tall as your freakishly tall dad.  You physically cannot get that tall.  When I see threads like this, it reminds me of 18 year olds asking how to start a hedge fund so they can afford a Ferrari and a Richard Mille watch on financial forums.

As I stated in my original post, don't factor in cost. I have money to perform multiple instances of the same surgery, though it obviously isn't ideal to spend so much money on one thing I am quite reserved with my money in general terms so it'd probably end up collecting dust anyhow.

This reply wasn't very helpful in terms of my original request but nonetheless, I appreciate your input. I don't know much about limitations so it is good to get perspective on what a physical cap would be for me.

[Worzezterlire]

As I stated in my original post, don't factor in cost. I have money to perform multiple instances of the same surgery, though it obviously isn't ideal to spend so much money on one thing I am quite reserved with my money in general terms so it'd probably end up collecting dust anyhow.

This reply wasn't very helpful in terms of my original request but nonetheless, I appreciate your input. I don't know much about limitations so it is good to get perspective on what a physical cap would be for me.

It’s not helpful because you have sky high expectations, you’re not even at skeletal maturity, you’re above average height, and you don’t have the right severity about the operation (such as joking about looking like a enderman).  There are a lot of outlandish requests on the forum all the time and it’s usually by people who haven’t done any research into the intensities or limitations of the operation before posting.

Read Dr Paley’s information at the very least: https://paleyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/Cosmetic-Stature-Lengthening-FAQs15.pdf

The maximum you can get with him is 13cm, which hardly anyone is able to withstand.  The vast majority of his patients get either 8cm in the femurs or 10cm overall from two segments.  In theory he can get you to 16cm but that’s a theoretical limit.  You probably can’t afford this unless you have a multi million trust fund, and even if you could most people cannot physically stretch that far.

Temper your expectations to 185cm if you are serious.  Consult with a surgeon.

I am a bit harsh, because it is almost universally young people who post here without any research, coming in hand-waving away the ridiculous costs and asking if they can grow well beyond what the body can ever possibly lengthen.  Even 3 inches of lengthening is barely tolerable.  It’s important to dispel the notion of this being a fashion surgery.  It should be a final option for those with neurosis (who are of an acceptable height but feel terrible about it — you land here, you are young and should consider therapy first), or those who are actually very short and suffer real life consequences from it.

[Thorfinnn]

Hello,

Please approach this from a purely theoretical standpoint, for now, discluding cost and other factors that aren't strictly relevant to the actual lengthening of my bones.

First, here are some stats on me:

Height: 177cm
Wingspan: ~176cm
Age: 18 since March, Growth Plates likely sealed.

My father is at roughly 198cm tall, I do not know my mother so I don't have her height. I wasn't brought up very well and would often get starved, I think my growth was severely stunted for this reason.

My goal height is 195cm. Give or take one or two centimeters but preferably 195cm or above. I don't care too much about proportions - I would likely lengthen my arms along with legs if I do go through with surgery, though my wingspan isn't that important and wouldn't need to be a match. Torso length isn't important to me at all, in any case, I'll look like an enderman which is cool, lol.

I suppose it's clear that my goal is reachable, but what would be the best path? Feel free to account for cost if you think you have a method that is both cost-effective and efficient, don't dismiss any ideas because they are too expensive though.

Feel free to ask further questions, if any.

Your soft tissues will give out before you could get 18 cm. A more realistic goal would be 12-14 cm. Trying to get to 18 cm the Chances of complications rise exponentially. I advise you to do more research on LL and the safety limits, complications and the processes like pre surgery, surgery, distraction and consolidation.

[Worzezterlire]

Your soft tissues will give out before you could get 18 cm. A more realistic goal would be 12-14 cm. Trying to get to 18 cm the Chances of complications rise exponentially. I advise you to do more research on LL and the safety limits, complications and the processes like pre surgery, surgery, distraction and consolidation.

Even 12-14cm is really the absolute limit for anyone sane.  I’m a very healthy guy, and I initially wanted 13cm, then 10cm, now I’m a quarter of the way through my femurs and realize now that 8cm alone is going to be very tough.  That’s why I think we need to do a better job on this forum with telling people the truth: they are going to have to have realistic expectations.  I’m not being harsh to be mean, I’m trying to spare an 18 year old the financial and physical ruin that will follow if he doesn’t do his research and take this seriously.

[Thorfinnn]

Even 12-14cm is really the absolute limit for anyone sane.  I’m a very healthy guy, and I initially wanted 13cm, then 10cm, now I’m a quarter of the way through my femurs and realize now that 8cm alone is going to be very tough.  That’s why I think we need to do a better job on this forum with telling people the truth: they are going to have to have realistic expectations.  I’m not being harsh to be mean, I’m trying to spare an 18 year old the financial and physical ruin that will follow if he doesn’t do his research and take this seriously.

Yeah 12-14 is the upper limit for max cm. And yes people need a reality check and know exactly what they are getting themselves into. I like your no bs approach and giving them an honest answer straight up.  Many people are influenced online and are given false hope.

[dexter1930]

Even 12-14cm is really the absolute limit for anyone sane.  I’m a very healthy guy, and I initially wanted 13cm, then 10cm, now I’m a quarter of the way through my femurs and realize now that 8cm alone is going to be very tough.  That’s why I think we need to do a better job on this forum with telling people the truth: they are going to have to have realistic expectations.  I’m not being harsh to be mean, I’m trying to spare an 18 year old the financial and physical ruin that will follow if he doesn’t do his research and take this seriously.

most people get satisfied after one surgery 8cm is fking huge boost. whoever does 2 segments pushing over 10+cm is warrior, the pain is no joke but people have done 10-15cm so there's a chance lol not saying I would go for this

[TouchTheSkies]

most people get satisfied after one surgery 8cm is fking huge boost. whoever does 2 segments pushing over 10+cm is warrior, the pain is no joke but people have done 10-15cm so there's a chance lol not saying I would go for this

For me anything above 6 or 7 cm is a bonus! I want to get this surgery, but there definitely has to be a limit for your own physical well-being.

[dexter1930]

For me anything above 6 or 7 cm is a bonus! I want to get this surgery, but there definitely has to be a limit for your own physical well-being.

i made the decision rather quick only in 6 months, just do it, you only live once. I'm not out of the oven yet but I can definitely feel the whole next level of height as of now. Just save enough money and time and do it as soon as possible. I wish I would have done this way earlier but never too late

[Thorfinnn]

i made the decision rather quick only in 6 months, just do it, you only live once. I'm not out of the oven yet but I can definitely feel the whole next level of height as of now. Just save enough money and time and do it as soon as possible. I wish I would have done this way earlier but never too late

When did you get the surgery done if you don’t mind me asking.

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Why do you want to get this surgery, honestly...?

[dexter1930]

my initial surgery was on 21 March this year, it has been 103 days and I'm at the end of the distraction phase. The frame will be removed in5-20 days. Before September last year, I never worried about my height. I found this site after I got my first surgery

[Thorfinnn]

my initial surgery was on 21 March this year, it has been 103 days and I'm at the end of the distraction phase. The frame will be removed in5-20 days. Before September last year, I never worried about my height. I found this site after I got my first surgery

Good for you making your goals become reality!

[Fiveandsomething]

my initial surgery was on 21 March this year, it has been 103 days and I'm at the end of the distraction phase. The frame will be removed in5-20 days. Before September last year, I never worried about my height. I found this site after I got my first surgery

103 days?? 5-20 left?? What method did you use and why is it taking so long.

[dexter1930]

103 days?? 5-20 left?? What method did you use and why is it taking so long.

I do regular bulky external frame with big fat full weight bearing nails. It was my doctor's idea to progress as slow as possible to preserve my health and avoid any possible complications. I started extend my legs 21 days after the osteotomy procedure to let my legs heal off the damage from the frame attachment and the cutting bone, most doctors start the distraction phase  after 7-14 days from the 1st surgery. I also lengthen just 0.25, 0.5 for many days. Sometimes when the pain is high I would stop lengthening for 2 or 3 days. I could have done 1mm or 1.5mm per day like many other CLL patients but my soft tissue will always be behind, hence, it hinders my mobility, I would rather do this slow and maintain my walking for better recovery than jeopardizing it. I believe if time is not an issue, people should lengthen not over 0.75mm per day unless if you have extremely fast pre-consolidation rate. Most problems occur when ppl start their distraction phase too early and lengthen too fast. However, each to his own

[Fiveandsomething]

I do regular bulky external frame with big fat full weight bearing nails. It was my doctor's idea to progress as slow as possible to preserve my health and avoid any possible complications. I started extend my legs 21 days after the osteotomy procedure to let my legs heal off the damage from the frame attachment and the cutting bone, most doctors start the distraction phase  after 7-14 days from the 1st surgery. I also lengthen just 0.25, 0.5 for many days. Sometimes when the pain is high I would stop lengthening for 2 or 3 days. I could have done 1mm or 1.5mm per day like many other CLL patients but my soft tissue will always be behind, hence, it hinders my mobility, I would rather do this slow and maintain my walking for better recovery than jeopardizing it. I believe if time is not an issue, people should lengthen not over 0.75mm per day unless if you have extremely fast pre-consolidation rate. Most problems occur when ppl start their distraction phase too early and lengthen too fast. However, each to his own

Damn. You sir are a man of patience. I certainly could not.