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[Future Skycraper]

What do you all think about CLL future?

I'm not talking about stryde and precise coming back, I'm talking about future things, like new devices, methods or new strydes, and so on

[Medium Drink Of Water]

A minor improvement or two every decade or so.

[Astronomy]

I think CLL's development is heading to the limit very fast.

New techique like reopening growth plates or genetic coding will substitute CLL.

[Thorfinnn]

I would be surprised if nuvasive still has a monopoly on the internal nail market in 10 years

[RealLostSoul]

I think CLL's development is heading to the limit very fast.

New techique like reopening growth plates or genetic coding will substitute CLL.

Bs. Maybe in 100 or 200 years. This won‘t be a future within our lifetime, if you believe in it I am sorry for you. Just safe up the money and finally do LL. „Genetic coding“ for adults and „opening growth plates“ (whatever is expected from this) is same sci fi thinking as warp drive for example.

[Thorfinnn]

Bs. Maybe in 100 or 200 years. This won‘t be a future within our lifetime, if you believe in it I am sorry for you. Just safe up the money and finally do LL. „Genetic coding“ for adults and „opening growth plates“ (whatever is expected from this) is same sci fi thinking as warp drive for example.

Yeah I agree the future with reopening growth plates and other possible future advancements I don’t see it happening for a long time but I do see more competition in the LL market but we don’t know for sure. We can most likely see minor improvements over the years

[RealLostSoul]

Yeah I agree the future with reopening growth plates and other possible future advancements I don’t see it happening for a long time but I do see more competition in the LL market but we don’t know for sure. We can most likely see minor improvements over the years

Yea that for sure.

[Future Skycraper]

To be honest, I think they will focous in kids and teens with the open growth plate and preventing than being short, instead of re-opening it or whatever. Cause it's easier, tons of kids and teens don't get the proper care and nutrition to grow

[RealLostSoul]

To be honest, I think they will focous in kids and teens with the open growth plate and preventing than being short, instead of re-opening it or whatever. Cause it's easier, tons of kids and teens don't get the proper care and nutrition to grow

Like I already mentioned in another post. There will be even more biologicals in the near future that interfere with kids' hormone / regulatory system to stimulate height growth. Similar to what HGH does in kids with deficiency.

[Future Skycraper]

Yeah, true, and also we can stimulate genes too

[TheDream]

Does anyone know if the new NuVasive Precise Plate, which was used for the first time in September by Paley, could be used on Adults,  in theory? It was designed specifically for children to avoid damaging their bodies with the internal rods and giant nails.

It is an internal method that does not require metal rods and nails hammered into you. It can only lengthen a max of 4.5 cm and is not weight bearing. But I believe for Tibias it would be insanely overpowered. Getting 4 / 4.5 cm gains in Tibias with no metal rods, giant nails or crazy external frames pinned into you could mean an almost perfect recovery of athletic ability while getting a good boost in height. You would be bedridden / wheelchair ridden for quite a long time, but the idea of avoiding long term problems could make it worth it.

https://www.limblength.org/treatments/lengthening-deformity-correction-devices/internal-fixation-precice-plate/

Hell, maybe you could even do femurs and tibias simultaneously if this concept worked. Without the internal metal rods there should not be a risk of fat embolism doing both at the same time AFAIK. Getting 4.5 cm on each segment would be an easy 9 cm without rod removal, nails causing permanent hip & knee pain etc. I guess one of the questions would be whether it can keep the mechanical axis stable, although only 4.5 cm might limit that problem.

[Future Skycraper]

Is that better than precisa 2.3 and stryde?? But I can see tons of nails going to the bone 

Stryde look better: https://medcraze.com/tech/nuvasive-precice-strydenail/

[a]

CLL will be demanded from all those chinese retards who think their average is 190cm, yet they are 185 cm and "feeling short". This will happen in 5 years max. Note it down.

[Future Skycraper]

I think it would be it or CLL will be done normally and it would be also used for models, sports and etc. When it gets to the point of full recovery

[Polvorón]

I believe that we could have internal nails that monitor the progression of the procedure, helping to avoid early consolidation or no unions. Also, I hope that this becomes cheaper and more safe (now is very safe, but I mean even more safe), so more people can get it done.

[Future Skycraper]

Yeah true, hope it gets normal to the point of implants and plastic surgeries involving face bones. And also cheaper, cause 100 USD is too much

[RB]

Yeah true, hope it gets normal to the point of implants and plastic surgeries involving face bones. And also cheaper, cause 100 USD is too much

In some ways, it will be a negative if this surgery becomes too normal and easy because it will mean that more people including tall people will undergo the procedure thus increasing the average height and that is ultimately a negative for those of us that are below average.

[Future Skycraper]

You're totally right. I wanted to say that it shouldn't be this tabu/mith that it is today. Feels like those crazy old movies about crazy surgeons perfoming weird surgeries, but this surgery is done  A LOT for leg discrepancy, dwarfism, and etc. But I think that people will realize at some point that height doens't matter that much, acctually being tall is awful, and being short is good, like: airplane sits, inside a car, beds, cinema, etc.

[Thorfinnn]

In some ways, it will be a negative if this surgery becomes too normal and easy because it will mean that more people including tall people will undergo the procedure thus increasing the average height and that is ultimately a negative for those of us that are below average.

Yeah your totally right people who are well over average height will get the surgery if it becomes cheaper and more safer. This result is inevitable if the surgery does become cheaper

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Yeah your totally right people who are well over average height will get the surgery if it becomes cheaper and more safer. This result is inevitable if the surgery does become cheaper

Some of them even post here.

Good thing it won't get cheaper.

[Thorfinnn]

Only time will tell. We just have to wait and see

[las vegas baby]

by year 2080 physical strength and conflict will become a thing of the distant past. all that matters will be who can eat the least amount of food and still be smart. being tall will become a burden. we will go through a pandemic which affects tall people more and short people less. there will be minimally invasive techniques to increase IQ. CLL will taught in schools as a strange historical practice.

[DonBones]

Once LL becomes something equivalent to a nose job, I think height might lose some of its desirability. It will of course be good for people who are way below average, but being tall may not be something men and women will be able to use to distinguish themselves anymore.

Having said that, I can't see distraction osteogenesis ever become mainstream. We would have to discover an entirely new approach.

[Ronman]

Once LL becomes something equivalent to a nose job, I think height might lose some of its desirability. It will of course be good for people who are way below average, but being tall may not be something men and women will be able to use to distinguish themselves anymore.

Having said that, I can't see distraction osteogenesis ever become mainstream. We would have to discover an entirely new approach.

It never will, because not many people will get CLL. The recovery procedure is seemingly just too brutal.

Facial surgery is different, you don't really have to do anything except wait and recover.

This though is another story.

[Future Skycraper]

True, you can even work after 1-2 weeks after surgery

[BelowTheMean]

True, you can even work after 1-2 weeks after surgery

You can work a week or two after LL surgery too if you're working from home.

[averageish]

Hopefully the price for the surgery could become cheaper. On top of that, hopefully something innovative could come along that would allow you reach a full and faster recovery. Could there be a stem cell treatment that would make the soft tissue more amenable/regenerative to the lengthening that happens in such a short period compared to natural growth? A stem cell treatment that would allow the soft tissues to not be damaged?

[Future Skycraper]

That's a good solid point. Maybe they can stimulate the area to heal faster, and also new techiniques to lentgh the soft tissues safer. Your bones need the growth plates to grow, and it has a specific period of time, but soft tissue has not limit to grow, people are born almost the same size and some achieve 2,5m of height and some 1,5m of height.

[MakeMeTallAF]

I posted in another thread, but there is the possibility of full limb regeneration in the very distant future. Now we likely won't benefit from this as this is probably many years away, but theoretically you could make any size limbs you wanted with this technology.

In the near future likely nothing much unfortunately. Just go forward with regular limb lengthening and hope you live long enough to see human rejuvenation and regeneration because that could be big.

[Future Skycraper]

I posted in another thread, but there is the possibility of full limb regeneration in the very distant future. Now we likely won't benefit from this as this is probably many years away, but theoretically you could make any size limbs you wanted with this technology.

In the near future likely nothing much unfortunately. Just go forward with regular limb lengthening and hope you live long enough to see human rejuvenation and regeneration because that could be big.

I agree with that, but I think they will focous more at young people, beacause if young people grow enough, CLL wouldn't be that necessary, doe sit makes sense?

[MakeMeTallAF]

Well it doesn't need to be a young person per se. For example like you break your limb during limb lengthening, for regeneration you would quite literally cut your leg off (in a controlled setting of course), and then regenerate it but longer so you end up taller. You can theoretically do this to all limbs, and if technology is advanced enough maybe to other parts of your body too. You're not changing your genes or anything.

And even humans can regenerate. For example kids under 5 can regenerate their fingertips, so if it gets cut off it grows back. We just need to find out how to do it in adults. Livers in adults can regenerate too, to an extent. If you cut off part of your liver it will grow back.