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[Dr3am3r]

Hello, i've been lurking for some time and finally decided to make a post.
My proportions are as follows:

height: 1.81 cm
inseam: 84.5 cm
Wingspan: 1.80 cm
sitting height: 95 cm

I was thinking about doing the surgery to get 4 cm on femurs, putting me at 1.85, but am afraid i already have short arms proportionally.

Here is an image of me so you guys can undertand better:

https://imgur.com/eBjdJ50

To those confused about what am i doing here, i used to be the tall kid most of my life, untill at sixteen, while going through depression due to acne medication. I got made fun off by three different people i admired a lot for me being unfit. That got me into a weight neurosis that made me almost stop eating and start running everyday.
The result was i lost 23kg in one year. Only stopped when people started making jokes that i looked like i had aids.
I also stopped growing. By 18 I had fallen into the average range, and my cousin (who used to be 2 or 3 cm shorter than me) was now 185 (4 cm taller than me). For a long time that didn't bother me, cause i had not connected the dots. I had finnished my acne treatment and was rid of my depression, so i focused on re-learning how to socialise (for almost two years i hadn't gone to any party or to the house of any friend) and starting to have a life again.
It worked, i learned how to live and to love life as i never had before. Untill some time ago when i realised i had probably stunted my growth. It's not that i'm sad now, but i can't shake it out of my head that i cheated myself of some quality of life.
I also would like to point out that i DO go to the therapist, i DO meditate (daily), and try my best to deal with mind issues. But i still feel i would be really happy at 1.85.

[Serilium]

no one will notice a thing, 4 or 5cm femurs would look great.

[Dr3am3r]

thanks man!

[BlackTwie]

I believe that you would look much better if you lengthen the tibiae—you have long femurs compared to tibiae.  I also most likely stunted my growth...  I had hormonal problems and severe sleep issues that likely set me back from 6’2” to 5’10.5” (based off my growth charts).  It is widely known that estrogen closes growth plates and sleep is essential for growth.  It’s comforting to see that I’m not the only one here trying to make up for adolescent problems...  It is really psychologically damaging having most women at university within a couple centimeters of your height; I had to drop out due to this and haven’t tried again since 2018...

That aside, you should start stretching out your calves and Achilles to prepare for tibial lengthening.  You can get more than 4 cm and you’ll look fine proportionally speaking.  This is my plan and my proportions are similar to yours.  If anyone believes this is wrong please say so for Dr3am3r’s sake of course!

[6CMFemurs]

I believe that you would look much better if you lengthen the tibiae—you have long femurs compared to tibiae.  I also most likely stunted my growth...  I had hormonal problems and severe sleep issues that likely set me back from 6’2” to 5’10.5” (based off my growth charts).  It is widely known that estrogen closes growth plates and sleep is essential for growth.  It’s comforting to see that I’m not the only one here trying to make up for adolescent problems...  It is really psychologically damaging having most women at university within a couple centimeters of your height; I had to drop out due to this and haven’t tried again since 2018...

That aside, you should start stretching out your calves and Achilles to prepare for tibial lengthening.  You can get more than 4 cm and you’ll look fine proportionally speaking.  This is my plan and my proportions are similar to yours.  If anyone believes this is wrong please say so for Dr3am3r’s sake of course!

Posts like this is why I strongly disagree with Paley giving a blanket diagnosis of "height dysphoria" to anyone who walks through his door. A man in the United States who is 5"2 or 5"3 does not have the same mental health condition as someone who is average to above-average height in any Western Country who feels "really psychologically damaged" that there are women at his school who dare be within a couple of centimeters of his height.

[6CMFemurs]

Btw to clarify, I do believe that BlackTwie is undoubtably experiencing some pretty severe psychological pain surrounding his height if he is on this forum of leg breakers. However I don’t know if you can say a person who is actually objectively short has the same diagnosis that he does. Either way, I am glad that this forum is providing him some comfort and exposing him to people he can relate to.

[Dr3am3r]

I've actually been thinking about tibias now since i read that they are actually safer if you use an external fixator.

That said, i lessened my goal to only 3 cms for some reasons.

The first is that longer tibias may increase chance of arthritis in old age.

3 cm is a very reasonable goal for me, i was aiming at 4 cm in order to make it worth the absurd price of stryde.

Tibias heal slower, and specially if i don't use a internal nail i don't want to loose to much time in consolidation.

[RealLostSoul]

If you want to get 3cm don't do LL. It's not worth the risk, price, pain and money. You can get 3cm with insoles that no one notices, you can maybe stretch/improve your spinal posture and get another cm. The difference between 181 and 184 is not worth it to undergo LL.

The doctors I have spoken to all suggest not to do AL even if I would lengthen a lot like 6 inches (with Paley's option 5 for exmple). So arms are irrelevant. A wingspan (which is not the most accurate representation because it takes shoulder width into account) of -5cm is unnoticeable and no one cares. If you really think too much about all this, I would recommend you to not do LL it's a lot of troubles (risks, pain, mental torment, etc.) that is only worth to take when you are really fed up because of height and only if it can make a significant difference. no offense btw.

[Dr3am3r]

While some of the time i agree with you, and think that the idea is crazy. I can't get it out of my head for over 2 months now. every day, many times a day.

I can't say that i WILL do it, at the time it's just a dream, i don't even have the money yet. That said, i think about it a lot, my therapy isn't helping, so i can't say that i won't be thinking about it 5 years from now.

I know 3 cms fews like very little. But i don't think the problem (in my case) has to do with the number exactly, and more to the feeling that i cheated myself of some of my potential.

I work a lot to improve my life, from game to meditation to studying. In every area i feel i get progressively closer to my full potential everyday that passes. Except height.

Losing weight was one of my first self-development journeys. and it is horrible to think i did myself more harm than good. it takes away SOME of the fun of all the rest.

Any suggestions for me instead of LL? lifts don't work, i already tried. I feel great with them, but when i take them off my mood worsens a lot.

Besides, to me it's not much about others seeing me as small or tall. No one ever called me short. It's the inner potential thing. I doesn't matter if no one noticed, i would (probably) notice it myself.