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[BreaktoGrow]

Hi all,

Recent insight from most doctors suggest that Stryde will likely take at least a year to return. Given that information, I'm now considering Precice.

If aiming for 8cm, how long can I expect to be using assisted walking? Also, are wheelchairs absolutely required?

Thanks

[FormerKidd]

I did Precice 2.2 in femurs and basically went straight to the walker and never used the wheelchair.  So no, it is not required for everybody.

And the rule of thumb is that however long you spend lengthening, you'll need to wait the same amount to consolidate (before you can walk unassisted).

Do be aware that 8cm is pretty tough on your soft tissues, so I hope you are either super flexible or are stretching like crazy.

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I did Precice 2.2 in femurs and basically went straight to the walker and never used the wheelchair.  So no, it is not required for everybody.

And the rule of thumb is that however long you spend lengthening, you'll need to wait the same amount to consolidate (before you can walk unassisted).

Do be aware that 8cm is pretty tough on your soft tissues, so I hope you are either super flexible or are stretching like crazy.

What the hell you are talking about You did Precice or Stryde?
This f**king forum is fake

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This is you
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66342.msg190452#msg190452

[Serilium]

This is you
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66342.msg190452#msg190452

Precice Femurs, stryde tibia

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Precice Femurs, stryde tibia

He never did femur and tibia . He is advertising for Paley

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He is talking about Precice 2.2 and Precice 3.0 . In reality Precice 2.2 or 3.0 doesn't exist. Only precice 1 ,2 and after this Stryde .

[FormerKidd]

Precice Femurs, stryde tibia

This is correct.

He never did femur and tibia . He is advertising for Paley

I am not advertising for him.  I doubt he needs it, frankly.  I had both surgeries done at the Paley Institute (but have not had the rods removed yet), and am simply trying to offer advice based on my experience.

In reality Precice 2.2 or 3.0 doesn't exist. Only precice 1 ,2 and after this Stryde .

What?  You do not know what you're talking about.

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This is correct.

I am not advertising for him.  I doubt he needs it, frankly.  I had both surgeries done at the Paley Institute (but have not had the rods removed yet), and am simply trying to offer advice based on my experience.

What?  You do not know what you're talking about.

You are fake that's it

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This is correct.

I am not advertising for him.  I doubt he needs it, frankly.  I had both surgeries done at the Paley Institute (but have not had the rods removed yet), and am simply trying to offer advice based on my experience.

What?  You do not know what you're talking about.

Ask your boss does Precice 2.2 or 3.0  exist?

[RealLostSoul]

What is this weird disussion above?
With precice you can‘t weightbear until you are a few months in consildation. The best case is crutches. Most people use walkers and wheelchair (at least in the beginning)

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Precice is completely non weight bearing nail. you have to be on wheel chair while using precice.
drs are making fools of patients many patients broken the screws who were walking with precice and end up with complications

[FormerKidd]

Precice is completely non weight bearing nail. you have to be on wheel chair while using precice.
drs are making fools of patients many patients broken the screws who were walking with precice and end up with complications

The Precice 2.2 nail in my femur is capable of handling 75lbs per leg.  But I have two legs, and 2 times 75lbs equals 150lbs -- and that's just for the part above the nail, which is enough to support a non-heavy adult.  I was permitted to use a walker, as were most other patients, but you have to "hop" on both legs rather than walking like a normal person or a patient with Stryde nails.

The "you have to be in a wheel chair" thing is simply not true.
 

What is this weird disussion above?
With precice you can‘t weightbear until you are a few months in consildation. The best case is crutches. Most people use walkers and wheelchair (at least in the beginning)

This is what I was saying -- I used a walker the ENTIRE time -- but this other dude is insisting I'm a shill.

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The Precice 2.2 nail in my femur is capable of handling 75lbs per leg.  But I have two legs, and 2 times 75lbs equals 150lbs -- and that's just for the part above the nail, which is enough to support a non-heavy adult.  I was permitted to use a walker, as were most other patients, but you have to "hop" on both legs rather than walking like a normal person or a patient with Stryde nails.
 
This is what I was saying -- I used a walker the ENTIRE time -- but this other dude is insisting I'm a shill.

Ask your boss does precice 2.2 exist? and 3.0 too
there is not known case of nail break most of the time screws breaks . so stop taking about nail can bear this much and that much weight.
You are just advertising here

[FormerKidd]

Ask your boss does precice 2.2 exist? and 3.0 too

I do not work in any field remotely related to medicine, so my boss would have no idea about such things.

But Precice 2.2 does absolutely exist, if you check the interview with Dr. Paley posted recently in one of the Stryde threads, he talks about it.  And Precice 3.0 and Stryde are the same thing.

You are just advertising here

Maybe you should go back to whatever conspirational forum you came from.  I'm sure the lizard people who run the world or whatever are going to come looking for you soon!

[RealLostSoul]

Precice is completely non weight bearing nail. you have to be on wheel chair while using precice.
drs are making fools of patients many patients broken the screws who were walking with precice and end up with complications

Sorry but this is bs. You are absolutely misinformed. Even Paley himself said you are using a walker and crutches, in the worst case wheelchair (for longer distances etc.).
If you look at the device specifics you‘d see that the biggest precice nail has 75lbs per nail/leg. Which means if you are below ~150 lbs pounds you can theoretically walk/hop around with having both feet at the ground all time.
Dr Mahboubian said his precice patients are mobile with walkers. The precice 2.2 nail is partially weightbearing.

Sorry but that‘s just the truth when all the Doctors say it. I don‘t know why you make up your own information.

[Body Builder]

75lb per leg is nothing.
Most men weigh for sure more than that. And we are talking about the biggest nail, not the thinner ones.

So if anyone wants to be sure that he won't bend the nail, of course he should use a wheelchair for most of the lengthening phase and the first months of consolidation.

[V21]

It's not possible for me to be under 155-160 lbs, so even with the big nail I'm not confident. I know walker is supposed to be used, but I'm really worried about not using the walker properly and bending the nail, so I will possibly use just wheelchair during lenghtening, which in my case is just 2 months. Besides, I will "walk" everyday with the gravity treadmill, which is safe.

[Bantem]

75lb per leg is nothing.
Most men weigh for sure more than that. And we are talking about the biggest nail, not the thinner ones.

So if anyone wants to be sure that he won't bend the nail, of course he should use a wheelchair for most of the lengthening phase and the first months of consolidation.

Unless you are over 5'7, anything over 150 pounds is going to put you in the overweight category.

[RealLostSoul]

75lb per leg is nothing.
Most men weigh for sure more than that. And we are talking about the biggest nail, not the thinner ones.

So if anyone wants to be sure that he won't bend the nail, of course he should use a wheelchair for most of the lengthening phase and the first months of consolidation.

150lbs is heavy for short males. I know plenty of guys, average and even tall height who are 150 and under. Honestly unless you are bulking muscles or being very tall becoming lower than 150 lbs shouldn‘t be really a problem.
Plus being obese for this surgery is bad anyways no matter what nail is used.

[BelowTheMean]

Unless you are over 5'7, anything over 150 pounds is going to put you in the overweight category.

150lbs is heavy for short males. I know plenty of guys, average and even tall height who are 150 and under. Honestly unless you are bulking muscles or being very tall becoming lower than 150 lbs shouldn‘t be really a problem.
Plus being obese for this surgery is bad anyways no matter what nail is used.

Not every guy is skin and bones you know.. some people are built differently. At my original height the lightest I've ever been since college is 152 pounds, with clearly visible abs, obliques, and an Adonis belt. I doubt anyone would call me fat. I can't see how I could have ever been under 150 pounds unless I starved myself and let all my muscles atrophy away.

[Bantem]

Not every guy is skin and bones you know.. some people are built differently. At my original height the lightest I've ever been since college is 152 pounds, with clearly visible abs, obliques, and an Adonis belt. I doubt anyone would call me fat. I can't see how I could have ever been under 150 pounds unless I starved myself and let all my muscles atrophy away.

What was your height? Because 152 pounds at 5'5 would be a BMI at 25.3, which is slightly in the overweight category. Between 140-150 pounds you wouldn't be skin and bones unless you were over 5'9. I think most people getting LL are usually under 5'7 so being under 150 pounds shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[BelowTheMean]

What was your height? Because 152 pounds at 5'5 would be a BMI at 25.3, which is slightly in the overweight category. Between 140-150 pounds you wouldn't be skin and bones unless you were over 5'9. I think most people getting LL are usually under 5'7 so being under 150 pounds shouldn't be too much of a problem.

My stats are in my sig.
Franco Columbu was 185 pounds at 5'5" and I don't think anyone would call him fat.
I don't see how guys could be under 150 pounds without being just skin and bones. Muscle is heavy. I'm picturing Captain America before he got the super serum.

[L8GrowthSpurt]

150 lbs or less - even as a short male seems very abnormal, at least to me; I suppose everyone is different but at 5’7 1/2 I have been down to 158lbs when dieting pretty aggressively which was unsustainable for more than like a week...and at least one coworker asked me (seriously) if I had cancer...for me I don’t think anything but stryde would be good...overweight? Currently I’m 170 Lbs, and I don’t think anyone would think so but I guess it depends. One thing is for sure, after my CLL and another 3 inches in height I’ll finally be able to fall within the “normal” BMI  category for more than a week or anyone thinking I have a life-threatening illness 😆

[Body Builder]

Unless you are over 5'7, anything over 150 pounds is going to put you in the overweight category.

Unless you are a skinny short man, 150lb are a joke for a man.
Even a normal 5.5ft guy should be at least 160lb with a few muscles on him.
I was less than 5.7 and I never was less than 165 lb from 18yo and till my LL.
Less than 150lb is normal for a girl, not a man, even a short one.

[sportiveshort]

You are joking right?.
I am 5'7 and 150 was my prime. I was full of muscles doing deadlifts of 140kg.
When I am boxing and doing lots of cardio I am more in my range which is 140-145.
Over 150 is actually obeses and outside ranges.
Maybe I am getting the conversions wrong but 150 is 68kg, which is ideal weight. 70kg is very muscular. Anything over that people were either fat or very muscular.

[FormerKidd]

I think the 150lb capacity applies to the portion above the rod, so there's probably some wiggle room there.  How much, I don't know; may vary by person.

[BelowTheMean]

ITT: Short ectomorphs and short endomorphs arguing about what a "normal" weight is.

[6CMFemurs]

I used a walker the entire time with Precice 2.0 too. From Day 3 post-op on, I never used a wheelchair. I was 22 and weighed under 150 pounds at the time though. Today at 170 lbs I would probably have to cut down on weightbearing.

[V21]

ITT: Short ectomorphs and short endomorphs arguing about what a "normal" weight is.

Lol I am 5'8 and 175 lbs at 10-15% bodyfat.

[silverlining]

Does anyone have tips for using a walker during Precise 2 lengthening? I worry that I will accidentally break the nails.