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Finished Consultation with Parihar
« on: December 14, 2020, 04:30:45 PM »

The consultation was 30 minutes on the DOT, and it was the most expensive 30 minutes of my life of $200.

Cost for Surgery and Nail:
$45,000 USD for Precise Internal Femur
$15,000 for External Tibia.

He doesn't have STRYDE nails.
No flexibility on costs. Yes, I asked.

I really didn't want to do this consultation because all of the questions I already knew the answers to because the answers could be easily found online but it seemed like it was a requirement if you wanted to do the surgery at all.

Here are some of the answers from Parihar himself:

1) Would the consultation fee count towards surgery?
A: No

2) Which would be preferred regarding recovery and safety? Internal Femur or LON Tibia?
A: Internal Femur is "state of the art, the best", and so the preference would be for Femur.

3) Does the bone healing duration compare from external to internal?
A: They are roughly the same. But I would say the femur might possibly be faster. This is because there is much more Vascular Tissue surrounding the femur and this may perhaps cause quicker healing in the femur. But this difference is nothing crazy and definitely not months.

4) Is it possible to get surgery in another hospital?
A: No, because they are too far away and this type of surgery requires frequent visitations from doctors. We are working on developing a new facility but this will be in the future.

5) I understand you don't do externals on femurs, but I see that lots of other doctors do. What do you think about such methods?
A: There are just too many complications that occur in external lengthening on the femur because there is so much muscle around it. It is never worth it and therefore I will never do externals on femurs for cosmetic purposes.

6) Do you need a Medical Visa or could someone come with a tourist visa and extend it?
(I asked this question because I'm not sure how someone would get their doctor to sign off on Cosmetic Limb Lengthening in the US. Sounds crazy to convince a doctor.)
A: Medical Visa is definitely necessary and we never had a patient that came on a tourist visa.

7) LON Knee pain has been commonly discussed. Is this avoidable?
A: LON Knee pain is more theoretical in my personal opinion. In our facility, we are frequently putting nails for trauma pains and I would know if knee pain was ever an issue as it would come up much more. I'm not convinced about knee pain, and I don't think research has enough evidence to support this. It probably isn't a practical issue but more a theoretical one.

8) Risk of infection, what do you do the mitigate risks?
A: There is always less than 1% theoretical risk for any surgery. Not just limb lengthening but all surgery. We minimize this risk by standard methods that are applied by all hospitals not just in India but in the states as well. We take all the safety precautions necessary to minimize all possible infection risks.

9) Fat Embolism, do you prescribe any blood thinners or Xarelto?
A: I don't prescribe any medication, just take precautions during surgery. We also stay very vigilant throughout the lengthening process to keep a high suspicion of complications.

10) Do you still hold the same philosophy of "function over length"?
A: Yes, that is why I keep a hard limit of 6cm in tibias. Let's say for example I have a 99% success rate and a 1% failure rate. For that 1% of that patient, it is basically a 100% failure rate as they are experiencing all the fails. It is important to be cautious, rather than being adventurous.

None of these were burning questions, and since not a lot of people had questions to ask him (on my post before requesting questions), I just asked questions that I thought were most relevant in under 30 minutes.

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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2020, 04:41:18 PM »

Thanks questpeanut.

I'm surprised he says no stryde because I had heard from one more patient that stryde is indeed available in India.

$200 is indeed a lot for a 30 minute consult lol. No idea why he charges that much.

Did you decide for or against going to him after the consult?
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2020, 04:49:07 PM »

Thanks questpeanut.
Did you decide for or against going to him after the consult?

The consultation literally made no difference to me. I did all my research before talking and I've been set on Parihar for a while.

The biggest concern for me is the Visa Situation. How in the world do you convince your doctor to sign off on something as crazy as cosmetic limb lengthening? Like Kilokhan was able to barely squeeze their way to do it but I can't begin to imagine talking to my doctor about this. I might have to switch doctors for this because I can't bear to tell him about this.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2020, 05:06:03 PM »

The consultation literally made no difference to me. I did all my research before talking and I've been set on Parihar for a while.

The biggest concern for me is the Visa Situation. How in the world do you convince your doctor to sign off on something as crazy as cosmetic limb lengthening? Like Kilokhan was able to barely squeeze their way to do it but I can't begin to imagine talking to my doctor about this. I might have to switch doctors for this because I can't bear to tell him about this.

Yes and adding to that I doubt you can get a visa to India anytime soon due to covid.

That said, as far as I know, tourist visas let you stay in India for 6 months. I doubt you would want to extend your stay beyond that under any circumstances.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2020, 09:19:03 PM »

About 9).
Not prescribing a blood thinner, especially with internals, is really dangerous.
I did 20 days injections for external tibias which is way safer for embolism compared to internals, I can't believe how a doctor don't prescribe blood thinners at all even for internals.

Only for that I wouldn't go there.
If you add India which is maybe the worst place in the world (together with some african countries) for surgeries and 45k for precise 2 (not even stryde), I wouldn't even consider that place.

Giotikas is on a first world country, uses stryde with the same money and of course he'll use blood thinners like any sensible doctor that does LL, epsecially internals.
I really can't see any reason for someone to go to Parihar and Imdia compared to Giotikas.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2020, 09:46:22 PM »

Thanks! On his website, he mentions that patients might have to get a hotel since long term accomodation is hard in his place.
https://sites.google.com/site/cllrpatients/faqs/cosmeticlengthening

Say you pay for a hotel near him. Is he still cheaper than Giotikas even considering the hotel fees?
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2020, 09:47:19 PM »

Wait we need to get an American doctor to give approval for us to go to Greece or India to do CLL? Really?
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2020, 09:47:53 PM »

What are the worst things about doing surgery in India aside from dirty facilities?
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2020, 10:51:16 PM »

Wait we need to get an American doctor to give approval for us to go to Greece or India to do CLL? Really?

No.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2020, 11:27:01 PM »

$200 is indeed a lot for a 30 minute consult lol. No idea why he charges that much.
Probably to minimize the amount of inquiries into CLL that result in a bunch of questions and no follow up from the inquirer.

Thanks! On his website, he mentions that patients might have to get a hotel since long term accomodation is hard in his place.
https://sites.google.com/site/cllrpatients/faqs/cosmeticlengthening

Say you pay for a hotel near him. Is he still cheaper than Giotikas even considering the hotel fees?

Most hotels have discount rates for long term stays. I was at a 3-star hotel for the discounted rate of $1,500 a month ($50 daily).

The consultation literally made no difference to me. I did all my research before talking and I've been set on Parihar for a while.

The biggest concern for me is the Visa Situation. How in the world do you convince your doctor to sign off on something as crazy as cosmetic limb lengthening? Like Kilokhan was able to barely squeeze their way to do it but I can't begin to imagine talking to my doctor about this. I might have to switch doctors for this because I can't bear to tell him about this.

I think you can go to any doctor, all that's needed is a letter from the one you see. It doesn't even have to say that you are approved for cosmetic lengthening or that it's recommended you do it, just that you are not prohibited from going to India for the procedure. Regardless, I think you're better off just telling your doctor. If you have any surgery later on in life or are hospitalized for any reason, you may be asked if you've been operated on before and it's best to be honest when it comes to your health since it's not like you'll be seeing your doc in your personal life and they are supposed to follow patient-doctor confidentiality.

As to the unavailability of Stryde, if Dr Parihar doesn't offer it then it likely means they're not yet approved for use in the country, in which case a representative from Nuvasive would be the best person to ask if there are any plans for it. I haven't heard of any other docs using Stryde in India yet either, just the prior generation of Precice.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2020, 03:01:40 AM »

No.

I could be wrong here, but I think the answer is "yes" if you need a medical visa?
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2020, 03:17:13 AM »

Most hotels have discount rates for long term stays. I was at a 3-star hotel for the discounted rate of $1,500 a month ($50 daily).

Hey Kilokhan, I can't thank you enough for always giving good information.
One of the things I worry deeply about is food poisoning. I cannot think of a more TERRIBLE experience than getting food poisoning when you are in the beginning stages of limb lengthening. Food poisoning in India is nothing to f**k around with. If you do a simple google search about stomach viruses in India, there are very scary stories about  “Delhi Belly” and even at worse case, dysentery.

I think if anyone is thinking of doing LL in India, this is a very high concern because the pain from this might be seriously dangerous combined with your broken leg's healing. Imagine being day 2 into LL and you have uncontrollable diarrhea and vomit.

I understand that you yourself got food poisoning during your LL Journey but you say it's not from the hotel food but from the bad ice cream. And luckily you got it before you had surgery.

1) You must have been eating mostly the hotel food for the many months you were there. Was the hotel food you were eating mostly vegetarian? I heard that avoiding meat is necessary to be safe.

2)  Did you take any extra precautions with your food and water? Some people don't even trust bottled water in India and only boil water to brush their teeth or drink.


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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2020, 03:31:14 AM »

Hey Kilokhan, I can't thank you enough for always giving good information.
One of the things I worry deeply about is food poisoning. I cannot think of a more TERRIBLE experience than getting food poisoning when you are in the beginning stages of limb lengthening. Food poisoning in India is nothing to f**k around with. If you do a simple google search about stomach viruses in India, there are very scary stories about  “Delhi Belly” and even at worse case, dysentery.

I think if anyone is thinking of doing LL in India, this is a very high concern because the pain from this might be seriously dangerous combined with your broken leg's healing. Imagine being day 2 into LL and you have uncontrollable diarrhea and vomit.

I understand that you yourself got food poisoning during your LL Journey but you say it's not from the hotel food but from the bad ice cream. And luckily you got it before you had surgery.

1) You must have been eating mostly the hotel food for the many months you were there. Was the hotel food you were eating mostly vegetarian? I heard that avoiding meat is necessary to be safe.

2)  Did you take any extra precautions with your food and water? Some people don't even trust bottled water in India and only boil water to brush their teeth or drink.

They had a good variety of vegetarian and non-vegetarian options, and if I was feeling up for something new I was permitted to call delivery service for Dominoes pizza or what not. I had a lot of protein while there, lamb and chicken particularly. Not once did I get food poisoning from their food or delivery.

No extra precautions with the food and water. Well, I didn't drink any tap water, but bottled water was completely fine. Boiling water was necessary for use with the sterile gauze to wrap around my pin sites. I think everyone coming into India ultimately gets a stomach virus at some point or another though, and I was lucky to have gotten it before the surgery. It was recommended that I take probiotic pills to help reduce the risk, and my doctor at home gave me some anti-malarial medication and some other things just as a precaution before entering the country. The stomach pain knocked me on my ass for a few days, but once I was over it I never had an issue again.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2020, 03:52:02 AM »

I think everyone coming into India ultimately gets a stomach virus at some point or another though, and I was lucky to have gotten it before the surgery. It was recommended that I take probiotic pills to help reduce the risk, and my doctor at home gave me some anti-malarial medication and some other things just as a precaution before entering the country. The stomach pain knocked me on my ass for a few days, but once I was over it I never had an issue again.

Last question, how long were you eating and drinking before you got the virus? Was it weeks or months after you got to India? I'm planning to purposely get food poisoning by eating dirty food early so that I don't suffer during my first days of LL.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2020, 03:55:07 AM »

Last question, how long were you eating and drinking before you got the virus? Was it weeks or months after you got to India? I'm planning to purposely get food poisoning by eating dirty food early so that I don't suffer during my first days of LL.
I was in Delhi and Mumbai for a total of 12 days before I got it. Yeah if anything it's better to get it before rather than during.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2020, 04:19:33 AM »

Thanks, so the riskiest thing about doing LL in India is getting food poisoning?

Also, anyone know if India with Parihar is cheaper than Giotikas?
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2020, 05:21:15 AM »

As to the unavailability of Stryde, if Dr Parihar doesn't offer it then it likely means they're not yet approved for use in the country, in which case a representative from Nuvasive would be the best person to ask if there are any plans for it. I haven't heard of any other docs using Stryde in India yet either, just the prior generation of Precice.

Stryde is available. They get an approval per patient and this is how they do it with precice too.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2020, 05:26:10 AM »

About 9).
Not prescribing a blood thinner, especially with internals, is really dangerous.
I did 20 days injections for external tibias which is way safer for embolism compared to internals, I can't believe how a doctor don't prescribe blood thinners at all even for internals.

Yeah almost everyone prescribes blood thinners for internals. No idea why he doesn't.
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« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2020, 05:42:03 AM »

Stryde is available. They get an approval per patient and this is how they do it with precice too.

Well there's no reason he couldn't do it then. It might just be that he hasn't had a Precice Stryde patient yet and hasn't looked into it. I'll probably email him to clarify.

Yeah almost everyone prescribes blood thinners for internals. No idea why he doesn't.

Must be a reason. He's mostly doing trauma surgeries where risk of DVT is higher after accidents than with cosmetic cases, so there's probably a reason he believes monitoring along with the NSAIDS youre given after surgery are enough. Penguinn didn't have any issues related to DVT doing bilateral Precice. I'll probably ask him myself.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2020, 06:23:26 AM »

https://sites.google.com/site/cllrpatients/faqs/cosmeticlengthening

There you go, Stryde is available.

No details on blood thinners added though, probably because it's not that frequently asked.
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2020, 08:34:46 AM »

Out of curiosity, why choose Parihar over Giotikas?

It seems like they are the same price? Not sure how to convert the Lakh to USD in his link. Or is India cheaper for reasons I'm not factoring?
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2020, 08:56:02 AM »

Earlier I was all in for Dr Parihar but shocked to see so many misleading information on the site such as 1) 200 USD would be deducted from the surgical costs, for patients who come to the surgery. 2) Stryde is available.
Also,200 USD for 30 min consultation? Whereas it's under 30 USD MAX for offline or local consultation... Don't know what's up with them... Looks like the cost of the surgery is now same as in European countries...  To me, Dr Parihar does not seem to a reasonable option anymore.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2020, 10:22:21 AM »

https://sites.google.com/site/cllrpatients/faqs/cosmeticlengthening

There you go, Stryde is available.

No details on blood thinners added though, probably because it's not that frequently asked.

If it's on his own FAQ that he offers Stryde and it's available in country, then it's clearly a case of miscommunication in this consultation and there'd be no reason why one couldn't use Stryde with him.

Out of curiosity, why choose Parihar over Giotikas?

It seems like they are the same price? Not sure how to convert the Lakh to USD in his link. Or is India cheaper for reasons I'm not factoring?

There could be many reasons. Maybe ethnic Indians would feel more comfortable with an Indian doctor, local Indians who could afford external/Lon/Precice and want to stay in the country, one who met both may like Dr Parihar's demeanor better, etc. More viable options are better than fewer.

Earlier I was all in for Dr Parihar but shocked to see so many misleading information on the site such as 1) 200 USD would be deducted from the surgical costs, for patients who come to the surgery. 2) Stryde is available.
Also,200 USD for 30 min consultation? Whereas it's under 30 USD MAX for offline or local consultation... Don't know what's up with them... Looks like the cost of the surgery is now same as in European countries...  To me, Dr Parihar does not seem to a reasonable option anymore.


If info is coming from multiple users then the factual information can get jumbled and it isn't the fault of the doctor. $200 for a consultation is steep but it's likely done to deter the spike of inquiries into CLL that he's received, as he even says before mentioning the consultation info "rather than endless q&a to and fro" or something to that effect.

External, external with hexapod correction (their version of a Taylor Spatial Frame)/LON are still $15,000, add maybe $5,000 for accommodation and it's still very reasonable and less expensive than any European doctor. For equivalent with Giotikas it'd be 22,500 European not including accommodation.

Dr Parihar is a very viable option and 200 bucks is a drop in thr bucket for the total cost of lengthening.
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My Cosmetic Leg Lengthening Experience

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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2020, 11:30:49 AM »

If it's on his own FAQ that he offers Stryde and it's available in country, then it's clearly a case of miscommunication in this consultation and there'd be no reason why one couldn't use Stryde with him.

There could be many reasons. Maybe ethnic Indians would feel more comfortable with an Indian doctor, local Indians who could afford external/Lon/Precice and want to stay in the country, one who met both may like Dr Parihar's demeanor better, etc. More viable options are better than fewer.

If info is coming from multiple users then the factual information can get jumbled and it isn't the fault of the doctor. $200 for a consultation is steep but it's likely done to deter the spike of inquiries into CLL that he's received, as he even says before mentioning the consultation info "rather than endless q&a to and fro" or something to that effect.

External, external with hexapod correction (their version of a Taylor Spatial Frame)/LON are still $15,000, add maybe $5,000 for accommodation and it's still very reasonable and less expensive than any European doctor. For equivalent with Giotikas it'd be 22,500 European not including accommodation.

Dr Parihar is a very viable option and 200 bucks is a drop in thr bucket for the total cost of lengthening.
Greece is not comparable with India but with Italy or even Germany etc.
So that price different between a first world country and India is mimimal for anyone who want the best result he could get compared to the money he'll give.
If someone wants to risk because he has extremely  low budget (not a good choice to begin with but anyway) he could go to Rusia for external only for 6-7k euros or in Vietnam which is very comparable to India and still much cheaper.

But I really believe it is nonsense to give 45k dollars which is a big amount to do precise (not even Stryde!) in the third wirld India while with almost the same money you can do stryde on Greece or Italy.
And also, Parihad seemed to be a respectable doctor but I stopped believing that after he said he doesn't give blood thinners which is, together with antibiotics, the most important and easy thing to avoid major risks and even death.

So in a few words, LLers should do the right choices to help the competition and have better prices or more extras (facilities, food etc) and going to India with almost the same prices as EU don't help a healthy competition between doctors.
LL'ers should be wise consumers at the same time as doing the best for their future health.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2020, 12:13:13 PM »

Blood thinner is not required in full external method.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2020, 12:32:50 PM »

yea jus about every surgeon gives blood thinners for internal methods. risk of embolism is gonna stay for months after surgery. all surgeons agree on this. seems like a big deal.
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Re: Stryde Nails CONFIRMED Available with Dr Parihar
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2020, 05:43:22 PM »

Stryde Availability
Just received this reply from Dr Ahuja when asking about Stryde availability at Mangal Anand Center for Limb Lengthening and Reconstruction:

"Stryde nail is indeed available with us, don't know where the miscommunication is coming from.

Anyways, both the Precice 2 & Stryde are available - it takes 6-8 weeks to finish the paperwork and import process for the nails since a special license has to be obtained for the patient from the Ministry of health & welfare.

Hope that clears the air."


About Blood Thinners
Also, as to Dr Parihar saying that no blood thinners are given with the nails, I was sent yesterday Dr Paley's Stryde pamphlet from a user that inquired with Dr Paley about CLL. Here is what it says about blood thinners in Dr Paley's own approved FAQ:

Blood thinner to prevent blood clots: Since you have the STRYDE nail and are allowed full weight bearing
as tolerated we only use 81mg aspirin twice a day for
prophylaxis. If you are on the birth control pill and
do not wish to stop or if you have other known risk
factors, then you will be started on Xarelto 10 mg daily
(approximately $313.99 per month)...

We use baby aspirin (81mg) twice a day after surgery both
in the hospital and as an outpatient until the end of
the distraction phase...

All of our patients are placed on an anticoagulant, either aspirin or Xaralto for higher-risk patients.


I know for a fact that NSAIDS are given by Dr Parihar after surgery, and before you are approved a series of tests are given to determine if you are a high-risk patient. That combined with close monitoring by him and his staff, no, you're not at higher risk of death getting Stryde with Dr Parihar.
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Re: Stryde Nails CONFIRMED Available with Dr Parihar
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2020, 11:44:55 PM »


We use baby aspirin (81mg) twice a day after surgery both
in the hospital and as an outpatient until the end of
the distraction phase...

Strangely enough, I just got an email clarifying a lot of these things. I honestly find it very strange that this email came today. It took a month to get my consultation and the majority of the responses were unenthusiastic 1 or 2 sentences from Divya Ahuja. I send an email after consultation and there was absolutely no response for almost a week.

Now out of the blue, Parihar himself answers me for the first time and gives me a detailed response that is 3 paragraphs long. Also, he changes his policy so that the consultation fee is adjusted to the surgery fee.

I mean, I'm not complaining. I wanted to go with Parihar all along. But it feels like someone linked him to this thread or something because I don't understand the sudden change in mood.

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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2020, 11:48:32 PM »

Thanks!!! What's the total cost to do internal tibia or internal femur with Parihar considering the living costs?
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2020, 12:27:26 AM »

Blood thinner is not required in full external method.
It does because breaking the bone and rimming it with nails can cause embolism, especially because you don't walk for the first days.

Also I really don't care what Paley said about aspirin after internals instead of blood thinners.
Giving anticoagulants is the easiest and most risk free thing after  a major surgery like LL.
Doctors who don't give them must be joking and I really don't care if Paley is one of them which is very sad though.
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Re: Finished Consultation with Parihar
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2020, 12:40:01 AM »

Also I really don't care what Paley said about aspirin after internals instead of blood thinners.
Giving anticoagulants is the easiest and most risk free thing after  a major surgery like LL.
Doctors who don't give them must be joking and I really don't care if Paley is one of them which is very sad though.

I always respect skepticism from your posts. There are many doctors such as Giotikas, Parihar, and etc who are praised in this forum because they are affordable yet experienced. However, you always seem to say they are not worth the price. I can always respect a skeptic's opinion.

But can you give me other doctors' names that you approve of? You never give alternative doctors.
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