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[Gman23]

I have looked a lot on this forum and couldn’t  find many people who have had done 2 surgeries. Read few but they seemed incomplete to me. So could anyone please give some advice or tell me about how doing 2 surgeries is and if it worth the risk. If one some who has done the surgery twice replies then it’ll be even better. I have made up my mind and will most likely go for femurs 3 inches and then 2.5 inches or less in tibia after. As my current height is 157 and at 5,3/4 won’t make much of a difference. Please help, reply thank you.

[Gman23]

I want to know if I’ll be able to walk like a normal person after a while, be able to stand for 8,10 hours as a chef in a kitchen I’ll have to stand for a long period of time. Also if it’ll be painful, if I’ll be able to do a bit of running.

[ghkid2019]

Do it a year apart, not simultaneously

[m7liam]

Plenty of people doing 2 surgeries. One doing it with me at greece. Going fine.

Evolution did 2 surgeries.

[ghkid2019]

Plenty of people doing 2 surgeries. One doing it with me at greece. Going fine.

Evolution did 2 surgeries.

1 year apart or together (three weeks apart(?

[m7liam]

One year apart.

[FormerKidd]

Do it a year apart, not simultaneously

I did two, and yes -- you should absolutely do them a year apart.

[ghkid2019]

I did two, and yes -- you should absolutely do them a year apart.

Hi former kids u went from 167 to 178 or what
What's the femur Gain/Tibia gain split

And how u doing nowadays. Hopefully u recover good? Can run? And how's the mental aspect?

Height neurosis 10000% gone? Or is that not the reason u did it? And how's your overall baseline for life now. Hopefully you can fully achieve anything now and be confident af

Sry for interrogation. U rarely come on and comment so I wanna catch you like a running roach sprayed raid on it and do it quick b4 u leave. Thanks man 🙏

[Ghostfish]

I want to know if I’ll be able to walk like a normal person after a while, be able to stand for 8,10 hours as a chef in a kitchen I’ll have to stand for a long period of time. Also if it’ll be painful, if I’ll be able to do a bit of running.

Hi Gman

I think doing two clls is doable in theory only if they are done to a safe extent. Doing them separately with at least a year apart will be absolutely a better choice.  However, your job is the problem.  Even with a femur cll, it will take a long time to be able to stand for 8-10 hours a day.  You will need at least 7-8 months to be able to do that with only femur lengthening, although it is very likely you need more than 7-8 months.
So I recommend you to do femur cll first with a consideration of 1 year time off.  If that turns out to be fine, you can consider tibia cll afterward.  Remember that tibia even needs more time to recover than femur.

Good luck!

[FormerKidd]

Yes, I don't come here often.

I did about 60/40 femur/tibia, not quite what I was hoping for but had to slow down tibial lengthening a lot towards the end.

I can go about normal daily activities just fine, but some things like squatting can be difficult.  Haven't done much running but hoping to get back into it.  We'll see how it goes.  At this stage and if I get the rods out soon-ish, it'll have been a few years so I'm pondering maybe getting some kind of trainer since I feel like I need to re-train my body to do some of this.

At this height, I'm never the tallest person -- and that's OK -- but I'm taller than average and at this phase, I'm still kind of enjoying the different perspective on life that can bring.  I don't think I ever had a neurosis like some people here do.

[Gman23]

Do it a year apart, not simultaneously

Thank You, I was thinking of doing together as it could possibly be a lot faster then waiting a year but yh I will do them a year apart now.

[Gman23]

Hi Gman

I think doing two clls is doable in theory only if they are done to a safe extent. Doing them separately with at least a year apart will be absolutely a better choice.  However, your job is the problem.  Even with a femur cll, it will take a long time to be able to stand for 8-10 hours a day.  You will need at least 7-8 months to be able to do that with only femur lengthening, although it is very likely you need more than 7-8 months.
So I recommend you to do femur cll first with a consideration of 1 year time off.  If that turns out to be fine, you can consider tibia cll afterward.  Remember that tibia even needs more time to recover than femur.


Good luck!

Thank you so much. This really helped a lot. I will follow your advice and do the surgeries a year apart. And I will give it a thought, as I could possibly work from home if I am not able to talk a lot.
Thank you once again!!

[Gman23]

Yes, I don't come here often.

I did about 60/40 femur/tibia, not quite what I was hoping for but had to slow down tibial lengthening a lot towards the end.

I can go about normal daily activities just fine, but some things like squatting can be difficult.  Haven't done much running but hoping to get back into it.  We'll see how it goes.  At this stage and if I get the rods out soon-ish, it'll have been a few years so I'm pondering maybe getting some kind of trainer since I feel like I need to re-train my body to do some of this.


At this height, I'm never the tallest person -- and that's OK -- but I'm taller than average and at this phase, I'm still kind of enjoying the different perspective on life that can bring.  I don't think I ever had a neurosis like some people here do.

Hi, so if I’m right you gained a total of 11cm with 2 surgeries? If so that is really awesome, I am hoping to follow your path and go for 11cm. If I may ask, can you stand up for long hours, for example 8-10 hours a day? Or is it painful?  Thank you for replying !!

[Gman23]

I did two, and yes -- you should absolutely do them a year apart.

Also why didn’t you go for the full 2 inches in tibia. And gain a total of 13cm in height? As gaining just 1 inches in tibia won’t make much of a difference??

[Gman23]

Do it a year apart, not simultaneously

Is 13cm gain achievable in 2 surgeries, 3inches plus 2 inches? As gaining 1 inch in tibia won’t make much of a difference

[Gman23]

Plenty of people doing 2 surgeries. One doing it with me at greece. Going fine.

Evolution did 2 surgeries.

How much is the person with you lengthening? I want to lengthen about 13cm with 2 surgeries...

[FormerKidd]

Is 13cm gain achievable in 2 surgeries, 3inches plus 2 inches? As gaining 1 inch in tibia won’t make much of a difference

It is absolutely possible but I want to warn you that a lot of people don't make it.  You need to be very flexible and stretch constantly, and most people aren't and/or don't stretch enough.

It wasn't unusual for a lot of people I met to have to pause or slow the rate of distraction towards the end, and that can be a real morale killer not to mention costly in terms of time and money.

(Not trying to deter you, but I think it's important that people have reasonable expectations.)

Also why didn’t you go for the full 2 inches in tibia. And gain a total of 13cm in height? As gaining just 1 inches in tibia won’t make much of a difference??

I did over 1.5 inches in the tibia.  I could have tried to go a little further but... see above.

[Gman23]

It is absolutely possible but I want to warn you that a lot of people don't make it.  You need to be very flexible and stretch constantly, and most people aren't and/or don't stretch enough.

It wasn't unusual for a lot of people I met to have to pause or slow the rate of distraction towards the end, and that can be a real morale killer not to mention costly in terms of time and money.

(Not trying to deter you, but I think it's important that people have reasonable expectations.)

I did over 1.5 inches in the tibia.  I could have tried to go a little further but... see above.

You know what that actually really helped thank you so much. I will start stretching from now on. I just turned 19. I think I have strong bones/ legs. But I’ll be extra careful and drink more milks etc.

[Gman23]

Yes, I don't come here often.

I did about 60/40 femur/tibia, not quite what I was hoping for but had to slow down tibial lengthening a lot towards the end.

I can go about normal daily activities just fine, but some things like squatting can be difficult.  Haven't done much running but hoping to get back into it.  We'll see how it goes.  At this stage and if I get the rods out soon-ish, it'll have been a few years so I'm pondering maybe getting some kind of trainer since I feel like I need to re-train my body to do some of this.

At this height, I'm never the tallest person -- and that's OK -- but I'm taller than average and at this phase, I'm still kind of enjoying the different perspective on life that can bring.  I don't think I ever had a neurosis like some people here do.

Last few questions sorry, can you stand for long hours, 8-10 hours possibly without having any trouble? Also how much did the surgery cost you In total and which surgeon, thank you have been a lot of help !!

[init1alove]

Yes, I don't come here often.

I did about 60/40 femur/tibia, not quite what I was hoping for but had to slow down tibial lengthening a lot towards the end.

I can go about normal daily activities just fine, but some things like squatting can be difficult.  Haven't done much running but hoping to get back into it.  We'll see how it goes.  At this stage and if I get the rods out soon-ish, it'll have been a few years so I'm pondering maybe getting some kind of trainer since I feel like I need to re-train my body to do some of this.

At this height, I'm never the tallest person -- and that's OK -- but I'm taller than average and at this phase, I'm still kind of enjoying the different perspective on life that can bring.  I don't think I ever had a neurosis like some people here do.

Hi Kidd,

Did you do femur and tibia one year apart nor three week apart？

[simple]

Why not to do both surgeries simultaneously? Im planning to do 3.5 inch femur and 2.5 tibia lengthening to look more proportional.

[FormerKidd]

Why not to do both surgeries simultaneously? Im planning to do 3.5 inch femur and 2.5 tibia lengthening to look more proportional.

Sounds like you might need to do a little more research.

This procedure is very taxing on the body and often the muscles simply cannot stretch that far in the alloted amount of time.  If you want to max out growth, you need to do the surgeries separately.  I can't speak for all doctors, but I know Paley and others I've looked at list different limit for simultaneous surgeries (10cm max) vs separated ones (13cm max).

Also, be aware that (a) you can't get to 3.5 inches on Precice/Stryde; the max possible is just over 3 inches and (2) some doctors will not let you go past 2in on the tibias.

If you really want six inches, you're going to have to do 3 or 4 surgeries over multiple years.

[Gman23]

Sounds like you might need to do a little more research.

This procedure is very taxing on the body and often the muscles simply cannot stretch that far in the alloted amount of time.  If you want to max out growth, you need to do the surgeries separately.  I can't speak for all doctors, but I know Paley and others I've looked at list different limit for simultaneous surgeries (10cm max) vs separated ones (13cm max).

Also, be aware that (a) you can't get to 3.5 inches on Precice/Stryde; the max possible is just over 3 inches and (2) some doctors will not let you go past 2in on the tibias.


If you really want six inches, you're going to have to do 3 or 4 surgeries over multiple years.

I’m thinking of doing 2 surgeries like I said 3inches in femurs and 2 on tibia. If I may ask which surgeon did you do your surgery with and how much did it cost.

[simple]

Hi FormerKidd, I meant 3.5 cm femur and 2.5 cm tibia. Total 6 cm height gain. I am currently 170 cm and I am proportional right now. If I lengthen more that 3.5 cm femur, it will look very ugly. Given the new measurements do you still think it is not possible to do this simultaneously 3 weeks apart?

[FormerKidd]

I’m thinking of doing 2 surgeries like I said 3inches in femurs and 2 on tibia. If I may ask which surgeon did you do your surgery with and how much did it cost.

Paley

Hi FormerKidd, I meant 3.5 cm femur and 2.5 cm tibia. Total 6 cm height gain. I am currently 170 cm and I am proportional right now. If I lengthen more that 3.5 cm femur, it will look very ugly. Given the new measurements do you still think it is not possible to do this simultaneously 3 weeks apart?

6cm should be reasonably doable with simultaneous surgeries, yes.

[ghkid2019]

Paley

6cm should be reasonably doable with simultaneous surgeries, yes.

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[Gman23]

Paley

6cm should be reasonably doable with simultaneous surgeries, yes.

Paley then it must have cost you a lot. Hopefully it’ll be the same result maybe not the best for similar with a cheaper surgeon.

[Gman23]

Seems like many people have done 2 surgeries and some of them turned out well... that’s a relieve

[Kal el]

Hey....is it possible to do 5+5 or 6+4 femur:tibia both within 1 year....with 4 to 5 months between the surgeries....and how much time before i can be normal like a so called limb lengthening veteran....i am going conservative with my goal but wanna be sure about everything....so plz do reply guys....ur support means a lot to me....thank you very much.

[exceeding2meters]

Hey....is it possible to do 5+5 or 6+4 femur:tibia both within 1 year....with 4 to 5 months between the surgeries....and how much time before i can be normal like a so called limb lengthening veteran....i am going conservative with my goal but wanna be sure about everything....so plz do reply guys....ur support means a lot to me....thank you very much.

It is possible in the sense that doctors will allow for it

I don't know if it is possible in the sense of whether your body can tolerate it

Best is to leave at least 1 year in between, but considering you have a rather conservative goal I d assume it is possible

I d also go for 6 femur and 4 tibia to spend less time wearing external fixators. 6 femur is alao probably safer than 5 tibia.

But do talk with a doctor, I am only regurgitating what I have heard or read