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[volt]

so, I was supposed to be about average height (projected to be 5’9). My father is 5’10 and my mother is 5’3. I turned out barely 5’6, which I attribute to a combination of being avoiding healthy foods my mom would make, not being active enough and lack of sleep. My fraternal grandfather is 6’0, haven’t met my fraternal grandmother, but my aunt on that side is taller than me so maybe she is taller too. My maternal grandfather is very short now because of scoliosis but apparently used to be 5’10, and my maternal grandmother was maybe 5’3 (same as my mom). So being tall isn’t really in my genetics, but neither is being really short.

Interestingly my half brother is already taller than me, about the same height as his bio father who is only 5’8. My brother was kind of a picky eater as well but he has always very sporty so that makes sense.

Since me being 5’6 is more a result of my childhood than my genetics, would this mean that my children would be predisposed to being short like me? Or would my genetics carry them over to an average height hopefully. I have a fear of having a son who I would submit to being short and have him face the same kind of major self esteem issues I’ve struggled with off and on my whole life.

[ghkid2019]

Epigenetics is real, you can affect your dna, but doubt it affects something as dominant as height to any significant degree. I think your kids won't have a short genes. They'll likely have your intended genetical height genes and be fine.

U may have been naturally meant to be 5'6 / 5'7, seems about avg between mum and dad, and mom's gene expressed more. Many ppl think they stunted themselves but honestly not more than an inch even with bad sleeping. It's mostly genetics. U gotta either be in ethiopia and eating at thousand calorie deficit for decades or bruce wayne and pull all nighters for years at age 10 or somethjng

[precice strider]

My mom identifies as 5'4 and my dad 5'6.

Not sure what their actual heights are, but it seems my mom's height usually appears to be my height to a bit shorter (never taller), and my dad's apparent height changes from my height to a bit taller.

According to "mid-parental height", I should be expected to reach 5'7.5, but there's no way that's happening. Even taking off an inch from both would make it 5'6.5, which I probably won't reach either. However, I saw my grandma on my dad's side yesterday and she looks 4'10~4'11. So just my luck I could have gotten all her height.


My dad's mom: 4'10-4'11
My dad's dad: 5'8
My mom's mom: 5'5.5 (self-reported but probably less, I remember being as tall or taller at 5'3~5'4 but it's possible she's shrunk over the years)
My mom's dad: ?? but probably taller than my mom's mom

[..]

Honestly you have bigger problems to worry about than your future hypothetical children.

That being said, I can almost guarantee that you were nowhere close to beating me in terms of sleep deprivation and depression.

[precice strider]

Honestly you have bigger problems to worry about than your future hypothetical children.

That being said, I can almost guarantee that you were nowhere close to beating me in terms of sleep deprivation and depression.

I fell asleep at 10 something and got up at 7 from around 9-12. My parents at that time made me go to bed at 8:30, which was so early I would literally get bored while trying to fall asleep.

That's between 8 and 9 hours of sleep for a child. Do you think that's enough to stunt growth?

[..]

I fell asleep at 10 something and got up at 7 from around 9-12. My parents at that time made me go to bed at 8:30, which was so early I would literally get bored while trying to fall asleep.

That's between 8 and 9 hours of sleep for a child. Do you think that's enough to stunt growth?

Try 0-2 hours.

[volt]

Epigenetics is real, you can affect your dna, but doubt it affects something as dominant as height to any significant degree. I think your kids won't have a short genes. They'll likely have your intended genetical height genes and be fine.

Interesting you say that. I believe my dad was supposed to be taller actually, but when he was about 15 maybe he had a serious medical crisis and almost died. I forget the details but I think his pancreas burst and they gave him a medication he ended up being very allergic too. After that, he stopped growing apparently even though he was supposed to grow a bit more. My growth plates fused right around that age. I wonder if that affected when my growth plates fused. Either way though, I was small my entire life as far as I can remember compared to my classmates whereas if my dad was 5’10 at 15 it sounds like he wasn’t.

[Tengo]

The men in my family are a few inches taller than me. My wingspan is a few inches more than my height.

My mum told me a story about when I was a baby trying to drink milk I sometimes bit very hard to the point that it hurt her alot. So apparently she couldnt feed me properly for like a week and I would refuse drinking from a bottle. This is a large factor in my mind because I dont know how often this happened and if she fed me optimally.

[volt]

The men in my family are a few inches taller than me. My wingspan is a few inches more than my height.

My mum told me a story about when I was a baby trying to drink milk I sometimes bit very hard to the point that it hurt her alot. So apparently she couldnt feed me properly for like a week and I would refuse drinking from a bottle. This is a large factor in my mind because I dont know how often this happened and if she fed me optimally.

I measured my wingspan and found that my wingspan is short for my height right now (5’5.5”). Unless I measured wrong it’s about 5’3. My arms look a bit short on me though so that would make sense. My mother is 5’3 and has short limbs, and my arms seem to be only a bit longer than hers. What’s weird though is while I have small hands, I have big feet for my size. My girlfriend is 4’11 and my hands are only barely bigger than hers. I’ve also had times when short girls (like 5’2) will compared hand sizes with me and their hands were bigger than mine. But with feet I wear shoe sizes 9 to 10, with my feet being bigger or at least about same size than some of my friends who are like 5’10-6’0.

I seem to have really weird proportions. My wingspan being short makes me not want to do too much LL (5’8 max), to not make it even shorter in relation to my body. Not the end of the world though since I don’t think people notice wingspan as much. There are lots of NBA with surprisingly small wingspans, and also Henry Cavill has a tiny one for his size as well and I don’t think anyone looks at him funny. I did research on wingspans and found a distribution chart from study conducted in I think Thailand and the shortest relative wingspan on the chart was about 4 inches shorter than their standing height. Human variation. 

[ghkid2019]

No one cares about wingspan the only people that care about wingspan is NBA draft and LL forum proportion rītards no one cares abt it in real life, given you don't have an actual wingspan deformity like dwarfism

[volt]

wow I actually just looked up the proper way to measure wingspan, by stretching your arms sideways against a wall and measuring how high your hand goes up the wall and my wingspan is a lot closer to my height, maybe even a tiny bit taller. It’s weird though because my arms look short to me in relation to my body, but that could just be my own dysphoria. I probably just compare myself to people with much longer wingspans in comparison to their bodies. I need to stop doing that, don’t want to be obsessive.

[ghkid2019]

Yes stop before you get proportion neurosis is even worse than height neurosis because you can't change it so stop now before it is over burn your ruler and leave any conversation involving proportion before it's over

[volt]

not considering it, especially now, but aren’t there arm lengthening surgeries as well though? My goal is 5’8-5’9 which would then make my wingspan short but still within the normal deviation which I am okay with.

[ghkid2019]

It's like I'm talking to a wall

[RealLostSoul]

People go on about epigenetics influence in height and looks but it‘s just unproven speculation. What is scientifically known is that height is sadly just a meiosis gamble. It‘s a polygenetic trait (= one trait determined by many alleles). You can get any possible set, good or bad, nature doesn‘t care if it‘s good or bad because sexual reproduction is just there to create diversity because a species with diverse offspring is more likely to survive environmental change. You can even inherit genes from your grandparents etc.
Can you change the height outcome with a bad genetic set? Well yea it depends. We all know hormones are the expression of a genome so if you artificially push growth hormone BEFORE growing is done yea. Why else does someone with a pituitary gland tumor get to be 7‘2 tall? Same goes for hgh deficiency.
Of course it is not only hgh determining height but many factors like absorption of nutrition, IGF-1, estrogen (the more you have the earlier growth plates fuse) etc etc.

If you do LL it won‘t change your genes, idk why anyone could believe this. What your child inherits is random again. Depending on your partner you can amplify the chance of tall/short of course. Honestly just look out for your child from early on, something ANYONE in my life failed, and you will be fine. If your child is still growing you can still adjust it with aromatase inhibitors or hgh (transhumanistic but honestly its better than suffering indefinitely).

[184dream]

i sware no my father is 5.7 my mom 5.8 and iam 5.7 even thought i drank milk every day my2 brothers are 5.11

[volt]

I mean given your mom is the female equivalent of a 6’0 or 6’1 man and your dad is the male equivalent of about a 5’2 female I guess there would be a lot of variety in your genetics. Were your siblings more active than you? Did they sleep more than you?

[Kal el]

Tbh ur genetics really really fked u....there was actually more chance of u being above 5'10 thn below it....so sorry to break it to u but tht is the case....ur a result bad height gene combinations but dn't worry i think u still have unexpressed tall genes inside u..choose ur wife reasonably and ur children wld do fine👍🏼

[KiloKAHN]

There's a tendency to try to come up with reasons why you're not tall when you're short, but the truth is that if you're living in a first world country, eating crappy, processed foods and going to sleep late every night is not going to make you shorter. It's really the luck of the draw, and my doctor explained it to me that if you have a dad who's 5'10 and a mom who's 5'0, like I do as an example, then your height is supposed to be anywhere from the height of your mom to the height of your dad, so that 10 inch variation is perfectly expected genetically, there's no "I'm supposed to have been".

Whatever the case, you either get leg lengthening to be taller or you find acceptance with your current height.

[Body Builder]

There's a tendency to try to come up with reasons why you're not tall when you're short, but the truth is that if you're living in a first world country, eating crappy, processed foods and going to sleep late every night is not going to make you shorter. It's really the luck of the draw, and my doctor explained it to me that if you have a dad who's 5'10 and a mom who's 5'0, like I do as an example, then your height is supposed to be anywhere from the height of your mom to the height of your dad, so that 10 inch variation is perfectly expected genetically, there's no "I'm supposed to have been".

Whatever the case, you either get leg lengthening to be taller or you find acceptance with your current height.

Words of truth but still some members are so idiot that they believe that they stunted their growth because they become 1 inch shorther than their fathers (although their mothers maybe 5 inch shorter) or because they have one cousin who is a basketball player or because they slept only (!) 8-9 hours per day.
Plain stupidity from people that can't accept that their born to be short, something completely normal which can be changed though with LL.

[permanentlybanned]

Yes there is really no point in saying what if what if what if... Everyone on this forum knows we got fücked by genetics regardless, pointing fingers at this cause or that doesn't make you grow taller... It's incredibly unproductive to just say "woe is me, I have not been treated goodly by nature"... Like else is saying- get LL and stop blaming this that or don't get LL and continue an obviously dysphoric neurotic life

And I find it incredibly stupid to willingly continue a dysphoric life for the sake of some future offsprings sake that lives in a more medically advanced society with the parents knowing HGH exists for familial short stature. Get the fkîng surgery and be happy in your own life. Stop worrying about your kids who will have more resources and will be able to grow to a normal height with science. If everyone lived for their kid, you might as well not be living, but already dead! We LIVE ONLY ONCE!

[Sibirskiy]

Here's a suggestion to anyone who is still dwindling on the question "If only I did x, y and z I would have been taller etc": why not use your mental energy and attention to do productive things to get money for CLL? Instead of wasting it on thinking about pointless "what ifs", why not do something about it? Thankfully I reached this conclusion early and decided to do CLL in my early 20s. And guess what: I never asked myself these stupid "what ifs" again. Ever.

[YungGud]

 I also was thinking alot about this things , but my parents pretty short , and I doubt I would had a chance being taller than 5ft10,but who knows...maybe
But generally I never had any problems with sleeping or nutrition, just maybe ate a little bit more sweets than average , and tried alcohol and sigaretes at the age of 15.6 ,but judging by photo's i continued growing until the age of 18

[permanentlybanned]

I also was thinking alot about this things , but my parents pretty short , and I doubt I would had a chance being taller than 5ft10,but who knows...maybe
But generally I never had any problems with sleeping or nutrition, just maybe ate a little bit more sweets than average , and tried alcohol and sigaretes at the age of 15.6 ,but judging by photo's i continued growing until the age of 18

You got genetically blessed considering the height of your parents. Absolutely blessed 💪🏻

[Kal el]

True bro but this is also true that if ur parent's are of nearly same height less thn 2inch difference thn there is a lot more chance of u to be taller thn thm by a couple of inches....i am not saying this bluntly i have seen this numerous times....crossing over during fertilisation is the key and it favours more whn u have nearly same type of height genes feom both parent's....and thn it all comes down to nutrition rest environment etc.

[volt]

I have a friend who’s parents are 4’11 (mom) and like 5’6 (dad), they all lived in El Salvador until my friend was about 12 then they immigrated over here. His older brother is randomly 5’10 which definitely is not a height anyone would have expected him to get to given his genetics. Meanwhile my friend says he’s 5’7 but I’m pretty sure he’s closer to 5’6 and his twin brother who I haven’t met myself is apparently around the same height. You can’t really account for things like this. Maybe somewhere in their genetics there are taller genes but for some reason only the taller brother got them.

FYI kind of funny to see the name Yung Gud around here. Pretty sure the real Yung Gud is super tall like 6’4

[Jamesy998]

No one cares about wingspan the only people that care about wingspan is NBA draft and LL forum proportion rītards no one cares abt it in real life, given you don't have an actual wingspan deformity like dwarfism

100%

[10cmOnTibiaOrGTFO]

my mom is 5'4 and my dad 5'6, i am 5'7 i guess i got lucky my sister isnt that lucky tho. in my family we are all around 5'3-5'7. There are no tall people where im from. its all about the money though. the more you got the more pussy u ll be getting. bitches are superificial, see how every bitch fks with lil uzi he 5'4. also i was never a big eater and still have grown^^ so yea, everything is coded into your genetics. talking about bad genes: my father never gets sick, so do i todays women have no clue about anything. feminism has brain washed them and made them undesirable. they think they can have it all. bitches want to lead like men have done for thousands of years. sorry hun, but you re not gonna trick biology. men were and are the providers. their body and brain is encoded in such way. also, once she hits the wall, not even a "beta" will consider her. feminism will abolish itself over time. its just the next couple gens that are fked and have to deal with this bs until the fat chidless lesbian finally dies out.

[th]

happy new year too

[permanentlybanned]

happy new year too

Happy Chinese New year tomorrow

[Jamesy998]

my mom is 5'4 and my dad 5'6, i am 5'7 i guess i got lucky my sister isnt that lucky tho. in my family we are all around 5'3-5'7. There are no tall people where im from. its all about the money though. the more you got the more pussy u ll be getting. bitches are superificial, see how every bitch fks with lil uzi he 5'4. also i was never a big eater and still have grown^^ so yea, everything is coded into your genetics. talking about bad genes: my father never gets sick, so do i todays women have no clue about anything. feminism has brain washed them and made them undesirable. they think they can have it all. bitches want to lead like men have done for thousands of years. sorry hun, but you re not gonna trick biology. men were and are the providers. their body and brain is encoded in such way. also, once she hits the wall, not even a "beta" will consider her. feminism will abolish itself over time. its just the next couple gens that are fked and have to deal with this bs until the fat chidless lesbian finally dies out.

Yous sound like a complete tool