I noticed that most people on here have an unhealthy addictive obsession with height and proportions. I get it, no one wants to look abnormal especially after they got a procedure or two done to help them feel more 'normal' but here's the real secret about humanity. NO ONE is NORMAL. Everyone has different body shapes, proportions, and functions. ABNORMAL is the new Normal.
I've talked to a LL doctor, a stylist, a tailor, a photographer and read some of the other LL accounts, here's what was said. The LL Doctor wishes that prospective LL patients would leave the determination of the proportions between the doctor and them not asking other hopeful's and/or patients who had it done for advice for the following reasons: 1. Prospective patients suffer from height dysphoria. They are overtly aware meaning they obsessively look at other's bodies(most are not consciously aware of this) and notice things that 9.5/10 people cant or usually won't because they don't have body dysphoria.
2. They are so determined to get the 'Ken doll method'(look proportional as possible) that they forget the original ken doll was designed with longer legs and shorter torso because longer legs are considered ideal in society.
3. 9/10 of his clients obsessed about proportions before surgery and that during and after they realized "oh my arms and torso don't look as short as I thought it would." You can make mockups all you like but the best way is to look during LL and when going through each stage (inch per inch) and adjust then. the 1/10 that have an issue usually lengthen their arms and their dysphoria goes away.
The Tailor and stylist say most men on the taller side have a shorter torso and longer legs. It's actually very common. and most men 5'8 and under have a longer torso and shorter leg.
I would like to point out that there are 5'10 men and taller with a long torso and shorter legs/arms. Matthew McConaughey, Michael Phelps, Henry Cavill.
The tailor/stylist insists that clothes grant a lot of illusion as well as have muscular someone is.
4. The best news is that most people do not have a trained eye. They will notice huge asymmetry but not minor ones. Most are not accurate within their bodies. 2 to 5% accurately have eye perception that notices unfamiliar patterns.
The good news: 1. Most of these so-called proportions issues are in your head-not as severe as you think they will be. They will not stop you from getting a job, going on dates, getting a partner, and functioning in society. and YOU will be TALLER. It is better to be taller with a shorter torso than short everything.
2. Most of you will never be famous. That's great news. You won't have the eyes of the world upon you critiquing your body. You won't be an actor, Olympic athlete, or model. Those are the top 3 jobs where if your proportions are bizarre they will be noticeable. Although I heard of some people in the spotlight getting LL, They keep it in proportions with the right doctor, clothes, muscles...etc
so you obsessing over something that is non-existent at this point creates more dysphoria and irrationality. Relax most things are fixable and again everyone has a different body type
If someone noticing your proportions is that severe to you, then come up with a good excuse. for torso: I know people with scoliosis whose sitting height is much shorter than it should be so they say that when people notice( again most don't). Most have bad posture so they say that or they come up with a blanket statement "oh I suffer from this X or its hereditary LOL I know" and that's the end of it.
for arms: I would wait until you have full discussions with the doctor. Some do Arm Lengthening most do not. Some people born with shorter arm span some longer. research MMA fighters for comfort.
upper body portions: most people have different proportions. You could have 3 people who are all 5'10. one could have longer torso/shorter legs/long neck, one could have a short torso/longer legs/ small neck, Shorter torso/long legs/small head.
Example You have to google these yourself: Michael B Jordan (yes he says hes 6 feet but he's 5'10 without elevator shoes)- He has a small head but the long neck
P Diddy- medium head and short neck
Timothee Chalmet( Yes it also says hes above 6 geet but he admitted to being 5'10 without the help of shoes),
Actor Tony Amendola- short neck/ medium head/shorter torso
Actor Don S Davis-small head/short neck/ shorter arms/ large belly/medium
and Matthew Mccongahey( also states above six feet but experts and sources say 5'10 without shoes) -proportion head and neck but long torso/shorter arms
Daniel Craig- I would say he would be the most proportion 5'10 out of all of the following mentioned above.
Jon Favreau is the tallest at 6' but you wouldn't think that compared to Chalamet and B. Jordan. You can compare him to other 6 foot celebs and notice he basically has no neck (and not because he's heavy set. he kind of always had a short neck) but a massive head as well as Jonathan Rhys Davis. Same No neck large head situation.
overall to end:
1. don't worry about proportions until the doctor appointment. Bring your mockups and ask them to make their own mockups. You are paying a lot of money, most doctors are happy for the business so they should have no problem doing that. You worry about it now without PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE your setting yourself up for unrealistic and encouraging dysphoria.
Again, I encourage you to go through other celebs with the same height and realize that most people have some type of abnormal proportion going on.
2. Maybe talk to tailors/stylists about what tricks to use when wearing clothing to look the most optimal. Google online, message people. This is a lot more common than you think.
3. Remember that men lie about height and penis size while women lie most about weight and breast size. When you get LL you realize most who are supposedly 6 feet are under that without special shoes. Celebrities wear elevator shoes. RDJ is the only one who openly admits it but they all do. Mel gibson and Sly Stallone are both 5'8 according to their former costars/directors and lovers. Both wear heightened shoes. Your not alone in Height Dysphoria.
also a side note- RDJ (who is really 5'7 without shoes), Tom Holland, Ian Mcshane, James Mcavoy, The Weeknd (the smallest at 5'6.5) and Ed Sheeran are all relatively the same size. different body types and proportions
Another side note: I knew a few people who are 6 feet and above but when sitting have the sitting height of much lower. They do not have scolosis or any condition, they just have a shorter torso. My mate is 6'3 but when he sits he's the same height as his girlfriend whose around 5'7. He uses it as a party trick. He gathers everyone around and takes bets( makes a bit of money that way) and finds someone 5'7ish and sits right next to him. Same height but stands up and towers. There are two things we could learn from this: 1. It's normal to be abnormal 2. Use whatever condition you have in a funny entertaining way
I know another guy whose 6'6 and has the same issues and small hands/feet. When people comment his makes up an excuse that doesn't keep them searching for answers and he moves forward. he makes up for it with grip strength and mobility. There's no medical reason he has those issues that he's aware of, He's the tallest in his family but has the smallest features. It is what it is.
ULTIMATELY all of this is about a tradeoff. Do you want to be 5'10/5'11 with a shorter torso and slightly longer arms(assuming you lengthened those) or back to 5'6/5'7 or whatever with a proportioned body? If the answer is i would do whatever to be taller than do that. Find preset excuses when people peer to closely but also realized that is a rare exception, not the norm and that you are probably over obsessing forgetting about that people rarely fit the golden ratio and you are not in the spotlight shirtless all the time where this is massively important. Your prospective partner won't find it an issue if you dont find it an issue. People love confidence, so be confident. and if someone says "sorry I only date guys with X amount of torso length" then run for the hills because they are probably disturbed.
ENJOY your new Height and your New LIFE. If reading this forums makes you feel worse than better, you shouldn't be on it because that is what mostly you will see. Making you more miserable
Hope this helps relax people.
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