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Dr Sarin Pricing
« on: October 05, 2013, 09:16:31 PM »


I recieved an email back from Sarin that I had sent quite a while ago asking about doing both procedures at his clinic.


Mail through Dr Sarin

nfo@drsarin.in
> [name]: thomas dxxxxxxxd
> [email]: tomdxxxxxxxx@cfl.rr.com
> [phonenumber]: 321xxxxxxx
> [country]: United States
> [treatment]: internal femurs external tibias
> [description]: would like to do 2 separate procedures.

Response from Doctor Sarin

>  yes you can do both the procedures one by one it would cost 50 000 USD in
total and will include every thing


Edit; I asked him for internal femurs and external tibia's. If I gave him the $50k US dollars upfront, I would get the hydraulic nails and everything paid for for both procedures , saving roughly $3000 off his current pricing by paying separately.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2013, 09:32:06 PM »

The HLN, well good luck with that because nobody done it since the first guy got alot of problems.  Maybe I'm wrong, has there been more HLN patients?  This doctor has received plenty of complains, I guess desperation has no limits.  Just know what you're in for.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2013, 01:10:56 AM »

I would steer clear away from Dr. Sarin if I were you.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2013, 01:43:45 AM »

The HLN, well good luck with that because nobody done it since the first guy got alot of problems.  Maybe I'm wrong, has there been more HLN patients?  This doctor has received plenty of complains, I guess desperation has no limits.  Just know what you're in for.

You cant believe every bad thing u heard about dr Sarin.
dont forget most of the bad things about him were told after syoup/Apotheosis failed to do business with him.
So keep in mind that there r ppl out there saying bad things about him purely for their own benefit. Syoup has obviously created multiple fake accounts to gang up and destroy Dr Sarins reputation.  Why do u think he initially banned everyone from the guest house while he was making all those accusations.

sweden himself said that the Dr was not as bad as what was being said. There were a number of other sarin patients who also said the accusations were being spiced. There was a guy who specifically said "Yeas its bad over there in India with sarin but its not that bad and that what Syoup was exaggerationg things"...this guy later got banned....Why...Bcos syoup did not want to be challenged.

if u r going to india he is still the best option over there. so do the surgery with him and work hard on ur ballerina...Just like Sweden has advised.

I wouldnt pay 50K upfront to save 3K because the 2nd surgery wont be done for atleast another year. unless u think prices will increase.

My prediction is that Syoup/apotheosis will bring a better nail to india for the for a similar price (as HLN) soon rather than later.

AT 35K (20 + 15) for HLN, I think there is stil room for other drs to better his price with a better nails in india.

If sarin has been able to use internals in India then i can expect other drs to do the same very very soon.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2013, 02:45:50 AM »

I'm going to set the record straight here, as far as I know, this is what's going on. 

- Legit complains about Dr Sarin were openly emerging from around April/May.  That's before Sysop trip to India in August.  I explained about this in another thread, so not going to repeat how it happened.

- Sysop banned everyone from guesthouse primarily because they were about to expose "The Phantom" which is a fake diary.

- Current Sarin patients who are still at the guesthouse are members here too, you can ask for their opinions..

- Decision making should include visiting multiple doctors and speak to their patients.   To make a decision largely based on strangers comments on the internet is foolish.  As mentioned in "What's Wrong With old forum  and Why I Left "

Special mention also must be given to a certain patient who has now left the guesthouse,  I won't disclose his identity here, but I'll write more about him at the new forum.  This patient had a special deal with the doctor and was basically screwing over everyone here with all the bs in his diary.

That patient is Sweden, he was initially planning to write another femur diary on old forum  for Dr Sarin.  Sweden was shilling for Dr Sarin back in May in his diary and hyping up the HLN  despite complains from other patients that came out in the open.  Screenshot attached below.

Here's what another patient at the guesthouse realize about Sweden

"It is not easy for patients to give negative feedback while under Dr. Sarin's care...even Sweden was badly reprimanded by Dr. Sarin for posting about the menu and not recommending people to come here.

The Sweden you see in the diaries / old forum  is not the entirely real Sweden you meet and know in real life. In real life, he seems just as worried and pissed off about some of the incompetence and unacceptable things that happen here. He complains about the lack of properly trained people, old technology, and the lack of detail and precision people put into their work.

In fact, one day he was complaining the most and even said he would not recommend this place to his friends...yet he does a 180 and says the opposite on old forum .

Some may think, what's going on here. But I believe I know why.. Apparently Sweden was suppose to get financial deal on his femur surgery with Dr, Sarin if he could get some patients here by advertising to people on old forum .

I learned this information from a few old LL vets here. The femur surgery was suppose to be external. But after seeing the hideous complications with all the patients who done external monorails, Sweden decided instead to do the internal method in Sept-Oct 2013; he was under the impression the Internals would also be with financial deal .

But he learned the internals would not be the price he wanted, so he decided to negotiate on the price. Dr. Sarin's final special price for Sweden was $30,000, no if, ands or but.

Sweden had no money because he didn't work for 6 months, and was angry Dr, Sarin is forcing him to pay so much.

So Sweden became angry and posted on his Diary that he did not recommend people to come here and blamed it on the food (obviously, he did not want people to know his real intention).

The next day Dr. Sarin blew up on him about that post. Then the Manager Sandeep. Came to help fix the menu so he could write a positive post and say the menu is good now,

Now, knowing he would have to pay for it, just at a slightly discounted price, Sweden will have to go back home and work and come back in Sept-Oct 2014 instead. But I'm not 100% sure he would come back, he expressed interest in going to other doctors for internal femurs.

These are Sweden's words himself: "whenever they say don't worry, it'll be fine, then it probably will not be fine." because if it was easy to fix, the doctor or personnel here would have went and fixed it. It's just a lot of times either they may not know and may be guessing.   Sweden and his room mates would complain extensively about the terrible level of treatment here at times."
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2013, 04:30:18 AM »

I began spending a lot of time on old forum  in January and if I was ready for LL I would have been there this spring.  I'm glad I didn't have the time to make it there.  It sucks to not be able to trust anything on that site!
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2013, 05:01:25 AM »



I wouldnt pay 50K upfront to save 3K because the 2nd surgery wont be done for atleast another year. unless u think prices will increase.


This is some excellent advice ! and you should definitely adhere to this ... even if the price goes up there is no certainty they would also charge you the difference. in my opinion  you should invest the money in recovering from the first surgery faster. also for many LL patients height neurosis deteriorates after the first surgery.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2013, 04:44:11 PM »

Good feedback on Sarin so far. I encourage all my fellow members to contact the doctors about pricing and procedure. Seems to me paying 50k upfront for a nail that hasn't been proven to work yet isnt very appealing.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2013, 06:13:09 PM »

How nice to see I am deceiving everyone in my diary. Didn't see that coming.

Dameon: You don't know anything about that and should be more careful of what you are told and write on the website.

Right now YOU are the one telling lies and now we can't believe anything any more. Not old forum  or LL Forum.

You could do like SySop and just erase this.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2013, 06:32:34 PM »

How nice to see I am deceiving everyone in my diary. Didn't see that coming.

Dameon: You don't know anything about that and should be more careful of what you are told and write on the website.

Right now YOU are the one telling lies and now we can't believe anything any more. Not old forum  or LL Forum.

You could do like SySop and just erase this.

Sweden, you are free to express your own views here so everyone can read both sides of the story and decide what is real and what is fake.   

If we want total dictatorship and censorship, we wouldn;t be here.  If you think those claims are lies, then explain and people can make up their mind which version is the truth.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2013, 11:19:29 PM »

Sweden, I saw you posting in other threads already, so why not reply here? 

You have not explained anything except say that it is lies and deflect the issue to somebody else.   

I think if you don't explain, then nobody should believe YOU anymore. 

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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 01:13:55 AM »

Sweden, I saw you posting in other threads already, so why not reply here? 

You have not explained anything except say that it is lies and deflect the issue to somebody else.   

I think if you don't explain, then nobody should believe YOU anymore.

I don't know where to begin? It's mostly all lies. There was never a deal. Of course I wanted it cheaper if I was going to be the first patient. I've already explained this earlier.

If I don't have money or found it hard to pay for things? I just can't imagine where this come from? I planned to stay until July. Why do I even need to explain this? You can all believe I'm broke, I don't care.

My diary is not deleted, try to read it and you'll find out how much I complain.

I went to a meeting to fix the menu and everything else that needed to be fixed. It was easier for me since I was almost the only one without frames and I wanted the place to be better(without rats and dirty toilets). It helped and the menu got better during the entire day.

I tried to help everyone with everything I could bc I cod move around and now I get this crap thrown at me.
Great source of information!

Why not tell about how many that were using illegal drugs or every fight between patients that didn't got along? Because its useless information.

There is nothing for me to explain except how some patients apparently misunderstood it and gossip through PMs.

If everyone think its all lies in my diary you must be seriously messed up between the ears. I tried to back up EVERYTHING with photos and videos. I found that most of the diaries actually sucked and I wanted to make a good one. I tell my current condition close to every day the exact way I feel.

If you don't believe in me then fine. Lets see how your own diary turns out.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 08:20:41 AM »

How nice to see I am deceiving everyone in my diary. Didn't see that coming.

Dameon: You don't know anything about that and should be more careful of what you are told and write on the website.

Right now YOU are the one telling lies and now we can't believe anything any more. Not old forum  or LL Forum.

You could do like SySop and just erase this.

sweden....

What u did came across as advertising for Dr sarin.
U posted so much abt the nail cooming out and prices and all.
while there is a good chance u were doing that all out of ur goodwill u should realise how oother ppl will see ur actions.

it is still puzzling that the only thing u ever really complained about was the food and other minor things when other patients were having such a hard time.
I just assumed u were a lucky patient and that there was nothing to it. I still belive so.

I like that u emphasised that sarin is a GOOD dr and honestly u r not the first and last person to do so.

The fact that u have taken us on ur balerina journey is another reason i think u r a honest guy.
Most patients lie about not having balerina purely to make sarin look like a  bad Drwhile indirectly advertising the preffered Dr's.

Thanks for ur contribution mate but be carefull cos other were not as lucky as u at the guest house.
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2013, 12:35:00 PM »

I was told by others in the guesthouse that it looked bad in my diary but Sandeep first changed it to the worse. That's when I recommended people not to go there.
I talked to him and we got the eggs, milk and soup back, no vegetarian dish and they cleaned the toilet every day.

I didn't advertise for the HLN personally. Sandeep asked me to tell that it was open for booking now and then I wrote it.

Calic seems to be doing much better than myself. I am close to 6 months post frame removal and I still can't walk good enough. I didn't lose my crutches until 4 months post FR.
His callus is close to perfect already. I don't have any idea how mine looks but it wasn't even close to his months post FR.
Way to go Calic!!!  :D
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2013, 01:17:17 PM »

I was told by others in the guesthouse that it looked bad in my diary but Sandeep first changed it to the worse. That's when I recommended people not to go there.
I talked to him and we got the eggs, milk and soup back, no vegetarian dish and they cleaned the toilet every day.

I didn't advertise for the HLN personally. Sandeep asked me to tell that it was open for booking now and then I wrote it.

Calic seems to be doing much better than myself. I am close to 6 months post frame removal and I still can't walk good enough. I didn't lose my crutches until 4 months post FR.
His callus is close to perfect already. I don't have any idea how mine looks but it wasn't even close to his months post FR.
Way to go Calic!!!  :D

Hey Sweden.

Any word on the Hydraulic Nail?

Last time we chatted Sarin was manufacturing it in India and we were to cough up $20k for it. I was wondering if they had worked out the kinks . Do you know if anyone else has used it?
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2013, 01:46:19 PM »

I was told by others in the guesthouse that it looked bad in my diary but Sandeep first changed it to the worse. That's when I recommended people not to go there.
I talked to him and we got the eggs, milk and soup back, no vegetarian dish and they cleaned the toilet every day.

I didn't advertise for the HLN personally. Sandeep asked me to tell that it was open for booking now and then I wrote it.

Calic seems to be doing much better than myself. I am close to 6 months post frame removal and I still can't walk good enough. I didn't lose my crutches until 4 months post FR.
His callus is close to perfect already. I don't have any idea how mine looks but it wasn't even close to his months post FR.
Way to go Calic!!!  :D

You were praising Sarin to the heavens and then you say don't recommend to go there anymore just because of changed food menu?  Ya that sounds very fishy.

When you wrote about HLN, it seems like advertising when you said "Make Your Calls!".   Also it's certain you and Sarin had very good relationship, remind me of Dr M and Tall.

What about your conflicting statements ?

At first you said had no idea what making a deal means

Then you admit you tried making a deal when somebody bring up claims against you

My opinion on this whole thing is very simple from now on. 

Seems like Dr Sarin has habit of doing this kind of shady deal with patients.  I'm not surprise if there are more Sarin patients who is trying to do this.   

Plus Sarin tried to censor patients from posting bad things about him.....We should already be taking things with a pinch of salt anyway,  but especially for any Dr Sarin diaries you read.  Sorry folks, blame it on the doctor for having unreliable reputation of doing shady stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2013, 02:30:24 PM »

Well, we can canvas the Sarin patients to spill the beans once they get out of the guest house.

There is nothing wrong with getting a deal from Sarin. There is nothing wrong with telling everyone Sarin is a good guy -if that was your experience. However, you have to admit that he is giving you a deal if you are to sing his praises.

Remember, we are counting on the patient testimonies to guide us. When there becomes a conflict of interest, it calls all the diaries into question.

Just admit it in a disclaimer.

..........Dr Sarin offered me a deal if I recommended him to others, however I had a great experience with him regardless blah blah................
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2013, 03:47:38 PM »


There is nothing wrong with getting a deal from Sarin. There is nothing wrong with telling everyone Sarin is a good guy -if that was your experience. However, you have to admit that he is giving you a deal if you are to sing his praises.

Wrong.  If somebody is "getting a deal" ,  you can forget about that patient being objective, he will downplay any negatives and praise the doctor when possible.     If somebody had deal with Sarin, you think they will criticize the doctor in a honest manner?   Forget that, it won't happen. 

Maybe we should just put a disclaimer about Dr Sarin that he has influence patient's diaries before and everyone should beware of that when reading diaries from his patients.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2013, 04:30:18 PM »

Wrong.  If somebody is "getting a deal" ,  you can forget about that patient being objective, he will downplay any negatives and praise the doctor when possible.     If somebody had deal with Sarin, you think they will criticize the doctor in a honest manner?   Forget that, it won't happen. 

Maybe we should just put a disclaimer about Dr Sarin that he has influence patient's diaries before and everyone should beware of that when reading diaries from his patients.

Hey Carter.

I disagree. Honesty is the best policy. I believe we all have good heads on our shoulders. If a guy admits he is shilling for the guy, all the power to him. Its up to us to then take it with a grain of salt.

I dont know how we police all the diaries if they are shilling or not. So how about we ask everyone before hand that if the doc offers you a deal to promote his site, you disclose it . If you dont and we find out you are shilling, we boot your azz off.

I am certain every doctor will offer patients finders fees for recruiting new clients. Its not just for LL, but for every kind of cosmetic surgery or any kind of sale. Happens all the time.

I dont like guys pretending to be objective, all to find out they are outright salesmen, like sysop was. That is ridiculous.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2013, 05:21:14 PM »

Hey Carter.

I disagree. Honesty is the best policy. I believe we all have good heads on our shoulders. If a guy admits he is shilling for the guy, all the power to him. Its up to us to then take it with a grain of salt.

I dont know how we police all the diaries if they are shilling or not. So how about we ask everyone before hand that if the doc offers you a deal to promote his site, you disclose it . If you dont and we find out you are shilling, we boot your azz off.

I am certain every doctor will offer patients finders fees for recruiting new clients. Its not just for LL, but for every kind of cosmetic surgery or any kind of sale. Happens all the time.

I dont like guys pretending to be objective, all to find out they are outright salesmen, like sysop was. That is ridiculous.

The idea that a shill would willingly disclose their relationship is naive,  it has no chance of happening in reality. 

Let's get back to the root of this whole issue....
 
If the purpose of a diary is to shill for a doctor when the patient had financial deal, then might as well not waste our time reading it. We don't need to read advertisements here.

Any ethical doctor will not resort to this kind of tactic anyway.  Essentially it's "bribing" the patients to influence their feedback about the surgery which is borderline illegal. 

We definitely shouldn't be encouraging this behavior and saying it's okay.  That would be a wrong path to take. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2013, 07:29:12 PM »

The idea that a shill would willingly disclose their relationship is naive,  it has no chance of happening in reality. 

Let's get back to the root of this whole issue....
 
If the purpose of a diary is to shill for a doctor when the patient had financial deal, then might as well not waste our time reading it. We don't need to read advertisements here.

Any ethical doctor will not resort to this kind of tactic anyway.  Essentially it's "bribing" the patients to influence their feedback about the surgery which is borderline illegal. 

We definitely shouldn't be encouraging this behavior and saying it's okay.  That would be a wrong path to take.

I know you are upset. Lets try to take a step back. 

There is no way to tell if someone is shilling or not. Asking the patient before he puts up his/her diary if he has been coerced in any way or bribed is not too much to ask. If they deny it, fine. We tried.Its like asking someone on an immigration form if they belong to the Taliban. Are they going to write 'yes' if they are?

The government is still going to ask anyways. 



It is fine for  me or to anyone I know if the doctor offers a discount for someone to bring them new customers. Its a fact of life in just about any kind of sale.
If you dont believe that happens everywhere , all the time, I am afraid its you who may be naive .

We arent talking about a fake patient. We are talking about a guy who was a real patient. Not sysop who never did an operation with Sarin and pretends to run an objective site.

Moreover, its human nature for the doctors to believe they provide an honest service so they see no conflict of interest. They believe they would get a glowing recommendation regardless of whether there is incentive or not. They are just hoping the patient pushes extra hard to get the word out. Not LIE.

And to go even further, most patients are not readily willing they just spend months of their lives, tens of thousands of dollars and broke their legs for some Quack.

Its irrelevant whether they are getting paid or not. They are going to be too embarrassed to admit they got screwed unless its drastically so. So your point how they are going to be so honest in comparison to someone who gets money to steer is not going to be much of a difference.

We all want to write glowing reports of our experience and will play down negatives and uphold the positives.

Shaming patients of  doctors giving incentives to get new customers will not change the fact they will STILL negotiate a kickback. They will simply deny it.

Telling them its ok as long as they are honest about it and actually had the surgery there and can back up their diary with photos and whatnot should be fine. We cant control whether they do it so what is the point?

Food for thought.  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2013, 10:44:48 PM »

Update: I have edit this post to include some new thoughts.

Regarding TomD's idea, it's something I would need awhile to get my head around, because of all that stuff that happened elsewhere. I'm not going to say patients shouldn't get legitimate deals like in any form of service, it's the shady deals that I'm concerned about. 

The  forum put the patient's wellness & recovery as the first priority, so it's important to safeguard against things that may jeopardize that.    Our top priority is to provide a platform that can led to

- Patient Wellness (maximize recovery and minimize complications )
- Impartiality of Information (honest and accurate information)

A shill is defined as  " a person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest without disclosing that they have a close relationship "

It's goes back to the fundamentals:  Conflict of Interest, Dubious Deals, Partiality of Information

1)  If a person is a shill for Doctor,  there's a high possibility that the diary will be skewed toward the positive while downplaying the negatives.  That would defeat the purpose of the diary as the information is no longer honest and accurate. 

2)  Patients should have information that is as close to the truth as possible, not distorted versions.  otherwise  it would defeat the purpose of this forum.   

With all that said, this is open up for discussion by all members..  As long as the honesty/accuracy of diaries and patient's well-being are ensured first,  other ideas are possible.   
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2013, 02:33:59 AM »

Any news on Dr Sarin's HLN?

the rumours last time were that he is modifying the nail so paititnets dont lengthen a whole mm per session.

There is also a rumour that he is reducing his prices. 

Unfortunately i want to gain over 8cm so its either him or Jamal for my femur LL for now.
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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2013, 09:51:02 AM »

The HLN is up and running. $35.000

He has currently around 3 patients doing it as we speak and it seems to go well.

You can lengthen up to 12cm, but that's just insane and you will look like a full retard cartoon character.  ;D

I think 8cm is pushing the upper limit but it's your choice.
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 05:21:53 AM »

Sweden, do you know if the new HLN is fully weight bearing? Can/do patients go home while lengthening? By what mechanism does this nail work and what does HLN stand for? Thanks for enlightening us (or, at least, me). Happy new year!
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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2014, 09:05:03 PM »

apparently Dr Sarin was goiing to use a modified version of the original nail using cheaper materials. As a result referrence to the original nail is not very helpfully regarding its weight bearing capability.

none the less, this is good news. i am only 64Kg and can easily drop to 55Kg (which i expect will happen when LL wears me down) so this is promising.

Why is it that patients using this HLN dont start diaries? is Sarin ensuring that they dont? There are ppl in the Sarin guest house as we speak that r aware of these HLN patients and even they are not saing anything about the HLN patients!!!
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2014, 12:04:51 PM »

Its not use of having discussion on HNL because the doctor who is doing the surgery doesn't know a   about it , what he is doing is medical malpractice and its funny that you are paying alot of $$$$ for his experiment.

Recently i met a LL doctor and he said that there are no course or study regarding internal nails in india yet .

and he also claimed that he never saw either Dr Sarin or Dr Sringari at any function , workshop or seminar regarding Ilizarov techniques .

they are not even a member of any Organization regarding Ilizarov , just two random doctors who want to earn money the wrong way .

i even heard from a legit source that there is a guy who did HNL with Dr Sarin and only gained 3 cm in femur WTF.

I can guarantee you that if some bad complication happens , he will try his best to avoid it which he did with many patients who did LON with him .

Do you think that this random doctor can really modify HNL..?? LOL he is just bragging ..!!

if you guys really want to see if his HNL is legit and FDA approved then ask him to show proof or something ... im pretty sure that he doesn't have one and he could
get arrested for Medical malpractice if anyone complained . i m not sure but i heard he was kicked out of BLK hospital which is mentioned in his personal website as practice location due to these kind of behaviour .

you guys really don't know who you are dealing with . he acts as if he is a very distinctive figure in LL but the fact is , he is psychologically unstable .

guys beware in india , lots of scam and   is going on ... and i m really sorry to say that Dr Sarin is not even a choice to do LL cause he fked more then 70% of his patients.

even the most famous doctor like Mangal Parihar doesn't claim to do internals and Dr Sarin (who is like a new born baby regarding knowledge about Ilizarov infront of
Dr Mangal Parihar) is doing HNL ..!! i mean wow ... !!

the fact that we are talking about Dr Sarin is only because he was exposed to the world throught crazy+6 and SysOp in old forum  cause they had a deal .

crazy+6 who introduced this great LL Dr Sarin to the world got crippled for life by this very own doctor .

these are 100% truth guys and don't trust some of the LL Forum diary too cause they don't provide real information on complications and about Dr Sarin for their own benefit..!!
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2014, 12:45:29 PM »

Machine,

Its about time u take your anger some where else.

When did Sarin claim the HLN was FDA approved??  All you do is trash talk the guy and then when you have time you trash talk Apo and Crazy plus 6.  We are here to get information about LL. The stories about shady deals and Dr Sarin not knowing anything about LL is old news.

It is likely that you are trying to trash other doctors so u can promote other doctors. Many patients of sarin say they would return to do LL with him. Where do u get you 70%?? For a guy who was apparently a lamb (never complaining or whining about anything) during ur LL you have a big mouth.

If Sarin did not have the license to do what he does then why is he still doing it after so many years?? 

And twhats this thing about internal LL not being taught in India? wouldn't it be like LON LL  on femur without the external frame? you make it out like internal LL is so complicated?? I ma not saying its easy but dude how many rods has Dr Sarin Inserted inside peoples bones???

Now go ahead and call me a Crazy+6 fake account cos that's what you do when u r not critising Dr Sarin. There are enough posts of you ridiculing Dr sarin, Apo, etc. and we don't need to read that stuff anymore. 


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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2014, 03:52:17 PM »

Its called righteousness , truth and above all doing the right thing ..!!

Meaning of malpractice is improper, illegal, or negligent professional behaviour (google it) , that's what Dr Sarin is doing .
When did Sarin claim the HLN was FDA approved?? well that's the whole point lol and thanks for raising this question  ;)..!!
its funny that without really knowing about the HNL , they start talking about the price and s**t .
this is not a trash talk , these are 100% truth and facts and everyone has the right to know the truth , i mean this is the real info about LL . Old news , grow up man people like you are polluting this forum with false information so that patients could go to wrong doctor to ruin his/her life..!!

yeah..!! definitely 100% i will promote a good LL doctor infact i did talked to one doctor recently but i don't think he was trust worthy thats is why i didn't put his name on the list and my LL friends also supported me on this because they know i m doing the right thing . i m not trash talking them , infact they are already trash .
how many patients of Sarin claim to return to do LL with him ? and how many actually did came back ? you tell me ..?
i m sorry its was not 70% , my bad lol . it was actually more the 80 % who had complication and some had very serious complication.
yeah i was lamb and an a**hole but i complained about my complication to Sarin many times but the difference is i didn't had old forum  account which was my biggest mistake . In my mind i was on the verge of fighting with Sarin several time but i calmed myself , i guess i was more afraid then angry , and plus i didn't wanted to create a scene cause i was handicap myself .

http://pitkar.com/event.html (this company makes ortho tools in india , mumbai)
scroll down to workshop list and see how many workshop Dr Mangal Parihar has conducted on Ilizarov , ring fixator (the one we use for LL) , rail fixator (monorail fixators) and hexapod (computarised deformatiy correction and you can use it for LL too).

there are 31 more videos if you click on the videos list of Dr Mangal Parihar
I think Dr Sarin and Dr Sringari should learn some from a Dr Mangal Parihar .
you should go through these videos to see how fragile and compllicated LL is ?
Even Dr Mangal Parihar doesn't claim to do internals then how come this doctor is doing HNL ?
it is funny to see that Bigfaker compared Dr Mangal Parihar with these two doctors .
going through his thread in old forum  Bigfakers diary .
i think he judged the book by its cover ..!!

you mentioned that i m making internal LL so complicated , and how many nails Dr Sarin has inserted inside people bone ..!!
its not about the nail putting inside the bone , i mean even you can put nail inside the bone but there are methods and study to put  the nail inside the bone accurately and more over its the nail itself , if the nail is not approved by indian government then how can you use it at the beginning . i mean anything can happen , it can malfunction or anything can happen . if you have any complication with HNL , what do you think Dr Sarin will do . grow up dude ..!!

i don't know who you are and i really don't care . you can be anyone , you can be a pimp of Dr Sarin or you can be Dr Sarin himself . but i don't give a s**t cause i know i m doing the right thing here and i will stick to it ..!!
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2014, 08:11:47 PM »

there are 31 more videos if you click on the videos list of Dr Mangal Parihar
I think Dr Sarin and Dr Sringari should learn some from a Dr Mangal Parihar .
you should go through these videos to see how fragile and compllicated LL is ?
Even Dr Mangal Parihar doesn't claim to do internals then how come this doctor is doing HNL ?
it is funny to see that Bigfaker compared Dr Mangal Parihar with these two doctors .
going through his thread in old forum  Bigfakers diary .
i think he judged the book by its cover ..!!

In the end everyone has the right to choose where they go for their surgery for whatever reason. I don't know if Bigfaker chose to go to Dr. Sarin or Dr. Sringari (I'm guessing the latter), but he definitely wasn't comfortable with the looks of Dr. Parihar's practice location and didn't want to bother with finding a place to stay and a physiotherapist on top of that. I do agree with you however that Dr. Parihar would be a much safer choice for leg lengthening than Sarin or Sringari. If I had the choice between the three, I'd rather deal with the hassle of finding pt and a place to stay so I could get my surgery with Dr. Parihar than going with Sarin or Sringari simply because they have a guest house. To me, it's not a hard decision between going to someone who trained under Dr. Paley and is a lengthening & reconstruction specialist vs someone specializing in knee arthroscopy. The latter is too much of a gamble, imo. Surprise, surprise that Sysopotheosis criticized Dr. Parihar's opinion on weight bearing though :/
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Current height: 170 cm / 5'7" (Frames removed 6/29/2015)
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Re: Dr Sarin Pricing
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2014, 03:40:19 AM »

Has DR Sarin reduced the price for the internal femur with HLN to U$25K ?
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