Topic: ***179cm male wanting 5cm (2.5 tibia, 2.5 femur) @ Paley*** (Read 4836 times)

infinity&beyond · « **on:** March 22, 2020, 02:30:54 AM »

I am a 179cm, 25 year old male and I want to get a total of 5cm lengthened split between my tibia and femur (2.5cm each) from the Paley institute. I can just foresee a bunch of you pouring in below with comments like:

-   ‘your tall enough, don’t bother with LL’
-   ‘5cm is so small for such a big procedure, might as well go more since otherwise LL not worth it’
-   ‘Why break 2 bones just for 2.5cm, just do all 5cm in the femur’

With all due respect these comments are not really helpful for what I’m asking. I would appreciate it if you guys could stick to the topic at hand, which is what I’ve laid out in the first line.

I might well eventually end up just getting all 5cm in femurs, however the 2.5-2.5 split is what I want in an ideal world, and to me personally it actually seems quite minimal.

My questions are: How would be the best way to go about getting this done? What would time-frame be like and how long till completely back to normal? While I don’t care about finances as I’m wealthy, a grave concern of mine is scarring. Please discuss below

llj · « **Reply #1 on:** March 22, 2020, 03:17:18 AM »

You'd have to do femurs first, since they heal faster. Then tibias.

Femurs you'd be fine within 5 months from surgery, tibias maybe 7 months. So you're looking at a year off. That's just guess work though, it could be faster or slower depending on many factors.

But IMHO this is not very realistic. If all you want is 5cm, it's much easier to just do femurs and be done with it.

Regarding your height, the taller you are to start with the easier it is to grow further. For example you might be able to lengthen faster than a shorter person. Whatever makes you happy man

Wanderlust · « **Reply #2 on:** March 22, 2020, 03:52:05 AM »

Best to ask Paley for a schedule.

But to give you a reference, my friend did approx 6.8cm at Paley for his femurs. He was walking without a cane by month 5.

But you can do the math. 1mm per day for femur = 25 days of lengthening. +1 month for consolidation. Assuming you are walking and putting pressure on your legs by standing up and moving around. I would guess you will be fine by month 3.

But to do both after 3 weeks to 1 month of you finishing your femur you will go under the knife again for the tibia. It’s .75mm per day so that’s approx 33 days for tibia. Tibia usually consolidates slower than femur.. but as long as you’re up and walking I think you can do it in 3 month.

You’re only doing 2.5cm.. that’s why my estimation is shorter than the other reply.

Month 1-2 would be femur, starting month 2 you will do tibia, so month 2-5 will be mainly tibia and some femur.

But honestly I can see you walking by month 6 without a cane. 2.5 isn’t a lot, and if you do PT everyday up till you discharge from Paley and you continue walking assisted, I can see you walking unassisted by month 6. Long distance walking? I don’t know, but I can see you walking short distances unassisted.

In terms of running, jumping and all that.. I don’t know.. that would up to your athletic ability before surgery, how well you recover, how much flexibility you retain, etc

Movie · « **Reply #3 on:** March 22, 2020, 08:09:07 AM »

as someone who is almost 8 months post op and did 8 CM's Femur Strydes, just do femur bro... why spend twice the amount and bear twice the set backs these procedures have on our bodies? Femur 5 CM's and that's it bro ... you should be good to go. no disrespect but 2.5 cms each for both sections seems like one of the stupidest ideas I've read so far here, because you'll still cause trauma to your bones with the femurs procedure, and for tibias, you'll have the nail inserted through your knees ... doesn't seem worth it for just 2.5cms to me having done the procedure myself. my two cents. best of wishes

TheAlchemist · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2020, 10:50:32 PM »

Quote from: ferniebritishcolumbia on March 22, 2020, 02:30:54 AM

While I don’t care about finances as I’m wealthy, a grave concern of mine is scarring. Please discuss below

If you are concerned about scarring I'd advise against doing tibias. There are more incisions involved with the tibias and our tibias/lower legs are obviously much more visible to the public and difficult to hide as compared to the primary scars from femurs (hip site and upper knee which you can hide with shorts that drape at your knee).

I can't recall exactly how many scars there are with tibias, but I remember all the tibia patients at Paleys had numerous scars up and down their shins that were highly visible. Be prepared for at least 1 to 2 years of highly visible scars, remember that you will re-open the wounds when you remove the rods a year or more after your initial surgery.

Yes the scars will eventually fade and I plan on getting laser removal procedures done to help deal with the scars from my femur site, but even then you've got to be realistic here, such procedures won't 100% completely hide the scars, maybe 90 to 95% at best for me(depends on your skin tone and skin type). People close to you (e.g. intimate partners) will still notice.

Overall, I agree with Movie, with your desired length and outcome, I believe 5 cm on femurs is the way to go.

Ghostfish · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2020, 09:50:38 AM »

Since you already mentioned that your major concern is "scarring", it is obvious that more surgeries will give you more scarring. If your goal is over 8 cm, two surgeries is the only choice. But your goal is 5 cm and you don't want to have many scars. Then just do the femurs. 5 cm in femurs is a rather easy process. You need about two months for surgery and lengthening. After a couple of weeks of recovery, you probably can go back to sort of normal life.

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2020, 01:46:29 PM »

Thank you all for the information in response to this thread, I appreciate it and encourage all to continue this thread.

Best,
Fernie

rech-u · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2020, 12:16:29 PM »

there is a rate between femur and tibia, you shouldn t do 2.5 -2.5 cm. the ratio is 4/5. that s means your femur should be longer than tibia.
for example if you get 5 cm from femur , you need 4 cm from tibia. 10 cm femur , 8 cm tibia etc.

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:45:57 AM »

Interesting

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:46:21 AM »

Wouldn’t mind further thoughts on this

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:47:00 AM »

You all make valid points

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:48:16 AM »

Surely I’m not the only one out here who’s considering LL despite already being in what some might consider an ‘tall’ height range

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:48:36 AM »

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:52:59 AM »

Any diary’s on here of patients in similar circumstance to me who have gone through with it?

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2020, 01:53:21 AM »

That is, anyone actually lengthened just for a few cm?

llj · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2020, 03:44:00 AM »

im doing it now, im at 3.1cm, goal of only 5cm increase

Sibirskiy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2020, 06:49:07 AM »

Hey Fernie, hope you are well. Speaking as a guy who did 8 cm on tibias, I'll just give my 2 cents for whatever its worth. First noone notices the length imbalance between my tibias and femurs, ive just been told "you have long legs" a few times as a compliment. So if I were in your position, i'd legitimately consider going more than 5 cm on femurs should your doctor allow that. You're in good hands so I would think your doctor knows best..

All the best to you!

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2020, 11:26:19 AM »

Do you have any photos, either of you? Who are you doing the 5cm with?

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2020, 11:27:27 AM »

How tall are you? Femurs or tibia?

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2020, 11:28:14 AM »

What’re your thoughts on getting it done simultaneously on tibia and femur for just 2cm each?

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2020, 08:18:47 AM »

Bump

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2020, 08:19:13 AM »

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #22 on:** March 29, 2020, 08:19:29 AM »

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2020, 08:19:46 AM »

limewalk · « **Reply #24 on:** March 29, 2020, 12:15:47 PM »

Woah you bumped the thread like 4 times mate

Honestly you need to do more research, reads all the diaries and visualize yourself doing this and spending all the money. I guess doing quads 2cm + 2cm is safer than doing quads 5cm + 5cm which Paley offers, but it's really your call if it's worth the pain and money.

Iron_Man · « **Reply #25 on:** March 29, 2020, 02:02:49 PM »

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3977.0 - Here is the diary of a guy who lengthened his femurs by 5 cm. There were photos and videos after lengthening. You can see how it looks He has almost the same initial height as yours (180.5 cm).

llj · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2020, 06:35:26 PM »

i was roughly ur height and goal, feel free to ask me anything

i'm 46 days into my journey (femurs stryde italy)

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #27 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:46:59 AM »

Very useful link, I appreciate it a lot

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #28 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:47:25 AM »

Will be sure to get in touch with you. Give me until tonight.

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #29 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:47:50 AM »

Any initial thoughts etc? Would you do it again? Why not tibia and femur?

infinity&beyond · « **Reply #30 on:** March 30, 2020, 12:48:12 AM »

Tibia and femur or just all femur?

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