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tallmf

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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #93 on: September 17, 2019, 09:28:52 AM »

4cm: likewise man :)
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #94 on: September 17, 2019, 10:53:29 AM »

Nice meeting you tonight @Tallpersonality, Just a genuine nice guy.

@tallmf , was a nice little party we had. Was fun and glad to see you happy. Loved the Home talk.

@Arabic man I love you dude, You are very similar to me especially how you throw your rubbish behind the door haha. Would be great if you migrated to Australia, Could see us being very good friends.
Hiyusna el lela! Kan Ahla youm hena.

Loooool it was a nice day to gather all of you to spend a night to remember each other in the future as awesome memories.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #95 on: September 22, 2019, 06:05:33 PM »

if you havent noticed, this is a parody account. But your main trait is low IQ, so I am not surprised.
I have another account which I dont use anymore as I just want it to die on a "high". I did stryde this year, I can do anything but running fast. I can jump about half a meter, it gets better every week. I havent tried running because I feel I need to build muscles first, or i may end up hurting the bones.

4cms...4cms.. 4cms... what can I tell, I knew you from the old forum. I seen the "doxxing" page Apotheosis made for you. You sure fit the description in it:
- Low IQ
- Narcistic
- Overly agressive

and this goldie:
lets see what fellow Sarin patients have to say about 4cms:



It's only right that I address your claim.


Here's what you said about me :

Quote 4cms was very insecure about his penis size, as well. He would often psychologically project his small penis size onto other people when arguing with them. During his consolidation phase, 4cms traveled to the city of Mumbai in India to have penis enlargement surgery by having fat surgically removed his back and then injected subcutaneously into his dinky weenie.

@Tinytl


 My response:
  I am in no way ashamed of anything I have done, This is proof you are an insecure scum bag.  The fact is i mentioned in my diary that i had a motorbike accident in 2012 to which I suffered trauma to my penis which resulted in loss of function that required surgery. The surgery in exact detail was the grafting of skin at a point around my penis in order to pressurize the chambers that fill with blood on the inside.The effect was that my recovery was immeadiate after the swelling went down and full rigidity was restored and as a side effect I would have a larger circumference which is understandable since my own skin was used and sutured tightly which in turn gave normal function back. I wouldn't wish such an accident on no man and am in no way ashamed. I talked about it openly on my diary and til today would talk about it. Surgery in Australia for my injury was 25k while in India it was 8.5k. YES ! I did have surgery and again I talked about it openly and still do......I'm not one bit ashamed and have no reason to be after all this repaired all the damage I suffered in my motorbike accident where I slammed directly into the motorbike tank. The court case against the insurance company took over a year and the injury itself was devastating. I'm supposed to feel shame that I repaired an injury that would of took years to heal on its own?  Now because you are such a scummy insecure maggot, Let me say this because in your mind you think you are in some way making yourself look good by trying to put others down.  Real talk now, Tinytl. If i one day you manage to trick a female into your life, If i wanted to i could easily take her from you. Just by your own admission of you admitting that you are 30 years old and alone on a weekend is enough to know your calibre with women. I'll say this,  before even my first LL I had women and would go out with my friends fishing ( picking up girls ) i mean you already have seen what i look like yea doing LL was more related to my fighting arts and the way other fighters perceived me. You know it and I know it , Let me say it again just to rub it in, If i wanted i could take the 1 girl you have which I doubt you even have 1 or will have in the future and leave you alone and miserable You are   so you deserve to hear this. You talked about me attempting to make me look bad but since you are so low and scummy its 100% deserved for me to put you in your place. You say im low IQ but you're a guy that said he will sell his house to do LL, If thats not an indication of low IQ then it definitely shows how desperate you are and we all know women hate desperate men, Face it dude you are a beta male and LL cant solve that mate. I know there are confident men here who do LL but you are one of the desperate creeps reeking of neediness.

From your own admissions I know im better looking than you, have had beautiful girls in my life which again im sure you have had none from you admitting yourself that you are always alone on weekends which also means you don't get laid at all , Better than you in every aspect of manhood.
I got married at 35 so almost for almost 4 years now but I could of kept it rollin til my late 40s if i wanted to.

These are Your own words Tinytl :

" I can save up money instead and do LL in 2 years, but thats 2 years of my time wasted on walking around in the body i dont feel confortable with. Low self-esteem, missed oppourtinities. "


" I hate being so self-conscious about this, some days im ridiculously tired but I try to stay awake so I don't shrink "

" Its small things like that which tilts me towards LL, i want to be a free man again. I want to live without such fear and self-conscioussness. "


" alone on a weekend, 30 years old. The future seems like an empty black wall, I don't think what awaits me but this pain is unbearable at times. "



Does any of that sound like a guy who should even be attempting to make fun of anybody ? Lmao
Don't talk about insecurity because you are the definition of it.


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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #96 on: September 29, 2019, 08:21:45 PM »



It's only right that I address your claim.


Here's what you said about me :

Quote 4cms was very insecure about his penis size, as well. He would often psychologically project his small penis size onto other people when arguing with them. During his consolidation phase, 4cms traveled to the city of Mumbai in India to have penis enlargement surgery by having fat surgically removed his back and then injected subcutaneously into his dinky weenie.
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Does any of that sound like a guy who should even be attempting to make fun of anybody ? Lmao
Don't talk about insecurity because you are the definition of it.

seriously you replied again to a 3 weeks old post even when the thread had become inactive?
talking about having nothing to do on weekends... get a life ya limp-d!cked fraud xD
tell me when you are off crutches so we can fight  ;D
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #97 on: September 30, 2019, 08:18:29 AM »

seriously you replied again to a 3 weeks old post even when the thread had become inactive?
talking about having nothing to do on weekends... get a life ya limp-d!cked fraud xD
tell me when you are off crutches so we can fight  ;D

You can come down now, Il take you the way I am.
Let me know as soon as you touch down in brisbane!

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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #98 on: September 30, 2019, 08:41:45 AM »

seriously you replied again to a 3 weeks old post even when the thread had become inactive?
talking about having nothing to do on weekends... get a life ya limp-d!cked fraud xD
tell me when you are off crutches so we can fight  ;D


So I've told you, You can come now.

You want to tell me why you have 5 accounts on here?
Have a read of them.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6863
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5502
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6250
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6566
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=6722
https://www.reddit.com/user/throwaway_LL_truth/

In case you don't know, TinyTL is also BladeRunner, tlannister, llshouldbebanned, third_world and ned_flanders and this user in reddit.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #99 on: October 07, 2019, 01:15:14 PM »

I have come home last week and I'm walking with crutches now. that's an improvement after bone grafting however I'm still fearful about my recovery, I really hope my bone get consolidated as I'm started walking now a lot, so I'm looking forward to my xray at the end of the month

however, I have a few concerns.

My fibula consolidation is not known.

also, I have extensor tendonitis and plantar fasciitis in the right foot, because I had severe equines contracture in the right foot so I still have lingering effects on my foot and ankle stiffness which affect my gait too. I need to sort this out in a hospital in Australia.

please see attached links of the xray taken in the hospital after the bone grafting surgery (  I had frames on because I fixed my ballerina by using Ilizarov foot frame without cutting the tendon)
https://imgur.com/a/IMW5VMr

also you can see the xray pictures taken a couple of weeks back,(just before I have started walking with crutches) however, the xray contrast is very bad there in India.
https://imgur.com/a/rPkUgSk
https://imgur.com/a/SS4jW8V

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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2019, 02:54:35 AM »

just to update,

I'm walking with one crutch, I think my muscles are getting stronger. in the morning when I woke up I have half a cm ballerina, after walking it goes away, it comes back again in the morning.

in my request, I have done the Ilizarov foot frame surgery instead of the normal  Achilles tendon cut surgery, (obviously you do not want to lose your calf strength permanently) it fixed my ballerina however during the foot ring frame, my foot arch muscles got weakened. so now I have flat feet, which something I need to fix over time.

I did my first Xray in my country ( away from India) on the 29th of October.  so I will do the next x-ray at the end of the month, so I can compare both the xrays to see the regeneration of bone. because the xrays I took in India contrast is different.

Also, I took an ultrasound to my ankle. because I still have pain in the right foot anterior tendons, in the toes, my whole foot feels very tight, also ankle movements are painful. especially my ankle is blocking the planter flexion movement and when I try to do it I feel stress on my tibia when I walk this ankle affects my gait, also what I noticed was when I wear a high heel Nike shoe, this ankle seems unstable and weakened compare to the left ankle. I really wish my right foot is the same as the left foot.
 
so ultrasound results indicate, that my right foot anterior tendons are still inflamed and thickened and I still have a sprain in my ankle. which all happened during frame removal due to the severe ballerina, my anterior tendons in the left foot must be partially/completely are ruptured. because I had severe pain for 6-8 weeks after frame removal, I had to take anti-inflammatory pain killers to manage pain, maybe this could have caused me non-union along with non-weight baring, as it would have stopped the broken bone getting inflamed.  So now it has been 7 months since the frame removal, my torn tendons would have patched up so ultrasound will only detect it is thickened. 
 
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2019, 02:58:10 AM »

my anterior tendons in the *right foot*
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2019, 09:25:14 AM »

Thanks for the update tallmf. It sounds like a tough time and I hope you stay strong until one step after another the problems are solved. I kind of can imagine what you are going through as I also had/have consolidation problems and pain in my feet. (still pain in my left foot)

Are you going to PT in Australia now?
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #103 on: December 23, 2019, 04:18:45 AM »

Hi TallMF,

Hope you are doing alright these days.
Have your doctors been able to offer a solution for your non-union?

Wish you the best, don't give up hope and definitly update when you can!
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #104 on: January 04, 2020, 06:24:23 AM »

no physio, I just do Achilles tendon stretch and ankle stretches. I just keep walking one-two hours a day unaided but slowly. however, my progress has been stopped in the past couple of weeks due to bone pain in right leg.

It's been exactly one year and a week still, I have foot pain in the right foot along with wobbly weak and painful right ankle. It feels like a prosthetic foot. all because of ,I had a huge ballerina. I really wish I did fully external, I should have gone with my first choice kurgan, being in frame for 8-10 months, is not difficult honestly, living with complication really is.

not much bone growth from bone grafting in the past two months, I could not be bothered updating, if I see any significant bone growth I will update the xray.

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Re: nonunion - January 2019 with dr Sarin in India
« Reply #105 on: January 04, 2020, 06:31:10 AM »

hello my dear friend Arch, how are you man, long time no chat.

Dr sarin said it may take another three months for consolidation, bone graft itself can take up to three months for healing. other than that no any particular treatment options were given to me at this stage.

I have also had a consultation with another Limb lengthening surgeon, he also asked me to keep on walking for a few more months, if not there is a new treatment called " Ossron" for bone defects along with stem cell therapy. however, undoing/reversing no longer an option.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #106 on: February 06, 2020, 04:08:01 PM »

i had shortening of 1.4 cm with stryde nail when i had non union. within 2 weeks after shortening i had alot of callous form. i dont know if that is possible anyway without a reversable nail. but the shortening was extremely effective and fast for non union
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #107 on: March 18, 2020, 02:36:27 PM »

Its been almost more than 7 months now from my bone graft from my right leg however not much of progress.

the left leg is having a delayed union.

other than bad bone healing, I still have my right ankle pain from ligament damages + right foot muscles contracture  + i have bowed leg ( not obvious bowed still its noticeable when I walk) + slightly inward rotated ankle - xray scan says i have mild osteoarthritis in both ankle. to sum up my legs and life is ruined and I'm crippled. this is all because of sarin's team pure negligence and incompetent.

now they even want to ignore my complaints. I'm fking furious. I will write a whole review and my experience from day one. starting with how I ended up get trapped in their marketing to how i ended up staying their 9 months.

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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #108 on: March 18, 2020, 08:28:47 PM »

can you post a photo of your delayed union?
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #109 on: March 21, 2020, 05:36:45 AM »

tallmf, I'm not a doctor.. but could it be that where they broke the bone was too low? I've heard from other doctors that if the break is too low that could cause non-union problems. It should be closer to the tibia tuberosity area?
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2020, 10:04:29 AM »

Is there any update to this? I'm very sorry about your condition.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2020, 10:16:13 AM »

Keep walking with crutches,. Are u allowed to weightbear? If so then walk religiously. I honestly don't know if LON the nail is weight bearing lol, I literally don't know, never asked ever since stryde preoccupied my research.

Weight bearing and forcing urself to walk is the Only Way to build bone at this point. Laying in bed can't do anything

And sry ur doctor is a monster. Sarin must've told you to lengthen 2mm a day. Disgusting
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2020, 01:12:47 PM »

Keep walking with crutches,. Are u allowed to weightbear? If so then walk religiously. I honestly don't know if LON the nail is weight bearing lol, I literally don't know, never asked ever since stryde preoccupied my research.

Weight bearing and forcing urself to walk is the Only Way to build bone at this point. Laying in bed can't do anything

And sry ur doctor is a monster. Sarin must've told you to lengthen 2mm a day. Disgusting
If there is a non union then walking won't do anything.
Shortening back and "injure" the bone with a surgery to make it to try to heal again is the only way to go.
Non union is not usual if you lengthen at a normal rate and you are not taking antiinflammatory drugs. However, 2mm is 2x the normal lengthening rate and any doctor that suggests his patient to lengthen that much is a butcher.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2020, 01:49:47 PM »

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feel so bad 4 tallmf.

Fück sarin. Stupid áss hòe. We need to stop this man from practicing medicine.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #114 on: September 23, 2020, 09:32:49 PM »

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feel so bad 4 tallmf.

Fück sarin. Stupid áss hòe. We need to stop this man from practicing medicine.

We should keep track of the all the major complications and malpractices of LL doctors so this doesn't happen to anyone else or so people can make better decisions on where to go for LL.
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2022, 01:40:40 PM »

tallmf, how are you doing now?
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #116 on: April 18, 2022, 01:04:05 PM »

I would like to know as well..
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #117 on: August 22, 2022, 07:30:17 PM »

Hey, i was wondering how you've been so far? I am absolutely terrified of non-union, for me, it's a big worry and i was wondering how you've been holding up
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #118 on: August 23, 2022, 05:25:41 AM »

sorry about your complications, hope you get well soon
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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #119 on: January 22, 2023, 03:21:53 PM »

It's useless to just plain talk about whether surgeons are good or not, unless you do a statistical analysis and estimate the complication rate and such, especially after one has already finished surgeries. But it indeed stroke me that Sarin told him to lengthen 2x faster. It seems to me this doctor is totally a retard since I don't know much about him. But what is the point discussing how good/bad random surgeons when it totally sidetracks the main point of this post?

Not everyone can afford for Paley and such either. I just hope OP is alright now.
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« Reply #120 on: January 22, 2023, 04:27:47 PM »

Thats true. He is not. This surgery only works if you have money as fuk
Of course, otherwise there will be 10x more short people doing it. But I am wondering why OP did not give that retard surgeon up when he suggested to legnthen 2mm per day. Of course it will cause non-union as expected because your body can't catch up with such high rate. It's indeed important to have primary knowledges about this surgery, to avoid being crippled by any bad surgeon.(Btw I am not blaming OP for his ignorance about this surgery. Just try to aware other potiential patients of the importance of primary knowledges. This surgery is really not a joke. You really will not even know if your legs will be screwed up if you don't know them, and cry about the disability without the surgeon giving any fks about you).

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Re: nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
« Reply #121 on: January 22, 2023, 04:34:53 PM »

hey guys, I did bone grafting surgery on both legs 5 weeks ago. also, I fixed my ballerina with a foot frame,( i was in frame for 20 days) so I'm on the cast now, ill remove my cast in one week and ill post my Xray in one week.  by the way, my regeneration is good already. how do I know? because I went to remove the frame a couple of weeks ago, I saw it on the operation theatre Xray machine ( I don't know the actual name of that thing) and the doctors confirmed it.

I'll be leaving India by the end of the month. so when I'm back home ill write my complete experience and future progress. hanging there guys. I'm okay right now.

in the meantime, for the future, LL's my advice. safe limit is 4-5cm keep this in mind, yes some people do 6,7,8,9 and get away with it. stretching capacity is different person to person, never get carried away with the bragging of the previous patients or doctors. if you are a pro/semi-pro sport,  athletic, gym person your tendons and muscles are tight. after 10% lengthening of your bone, you will have problems. MOST IMPORTANT 5cm is a GOOD fking height remember this.

and if you are doing lengthening on non-weight-bearing frame, please do exercise every day. here dr sarin provides physiotherapy every day. however I couldn't do physio from 4cm to 6cm ( almost a month) for several reasons which ill explain later. I think I was the only patient who stopped doing physio halfway through since the dr sarin changed his frame to nonweight bearing a couple of years ago.

so I got unlucky. I hope this explain the reason why I did have nonunion, however, I'm glad it has been fixed and I take this as everything happen for a good reason.
The amount of your tibial lengthening lies within the safe range. 6-6.5 cm is not hard to breeze though. Just you lengthened too fast, so of course your bones could not catch up.
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« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2023, 04:04:28 PM »

If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.
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