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Re: Bi-Lateral Stryde With Paley Consult Summer '19
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2019, 02:01:42 AM »

Well, all is good now. My ERC device (that controls distraction) had an error as we were going through things - an ERC3. The newest one available until the ERC4 comes out.

So they tried giving me an ERC1 instead. I would have taken it but the ERC1 can not be used by the patient alone. Not a story worth telling after all. They gave me someone else's assigned ERC3. Most people aren't doing this alone. There was more to it and we hugged it out so all good.

It's so busy summertime they don't have enough ERC3 devices to go around.

As for the work stuff, I'm a day trader so no boss. Sorry I can't help there.
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« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2019, 06:11:13 PM »

You're sharing your ERS machine with another patient? Is that possible? Is it not unique to each patient like it's configured to lengthen 8cm max or something? Is it a makeshift arrangement or you will continue sharing like this?

And what do you mean by "Most people aren't doing this alone. There was more to it and we hugged it out so all good."? You mean they are with family? How is that related to sharing ERS machine?

Sorry for lots of questions  ;D
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2019, 01:22:32 AM »

The ERC machines are reprogrammed after each patient returns theirs after distraction is finished. Most patients have family with them, as most are younger. If you have family, they will assist you in distraction if somehow you end up with an ERC1.
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« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2019, 01:25:33 AM »

This process is a trying one guys. Ups and downs. you get excited then suddenly realize how exhausted you are. Hire that caregiver for those 2 weeks just in case! Esp if you are younger than 30.

Sorry to be ageist but it won't be easy to fight through the tough times alone.
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2019, 06:42:35 AM »

Wise words brother! haha hope you keep doing well OG, I'll be catching up with you soon  8)
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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2019, 02:23:30 PM »

Wide variance in PT experience. One I'm going to avoid haha.

10 days post op and I got to walk around the PT office with a cane. Felt great. Can't push it all too fast or might have to deal with injuries.

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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2019, 04:31:46 PM »

This process is a trying one guys. Ups and downs. you get excited then suddenly realize how exhausted you are. Hire that caregiver for those 2 weeks just in case! Esp if you are younger than 30.

Sorry to be ageist but it won't be easy to fight through the tough times alone.

Props to you for making it with no caretaker - that's also what I ended up doing. Clearly the most difficult issue was going from the bed to the bathroom, and also food. I found that hotel staff (in Vegas that is) was very sympathetic and would have no problem escorting uber eats deliveries into my room. They literally brought food up to my bed. Staying at a full service hotel with room service would be even more convenient, but I don't know if any of Paley's recommended hotels have that option.

I can definitely see where having a caretaker would've helped the first couple of days, but to be honest I felt pretty confident in taking care of myself after day 2. I also tried using Care.com. What scared me off was that if you hire someone you'll have to fill out a lot of tax paperwork. It just didn't seem worth it to me.

Moral of the story is that having a caretaker is definitely more "optional" if you're doing Stryde as long as you're aware of the risks.
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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2019, 11:48:04 PM »

Agreed man. I have my food deliveries to my door. But have to handle it from there.  Was exhausting first few days setting up my room to make my life easier. Definitely something you want to do before the surgery. So that means setting up room, taking the hit on lodging while you’re in the hospital. Unless family helps.

I would say if you don’t have family for sure hire a caregiver for one week. And one from your doctor’s recommended list. Then go from there.

It’s give and take. You can be lazy and let your body take its time. Or be all in and test yourself and perhaps get to crutches, cane faster. But, you’re not taller than those who take it easy.

Big thing is your personality here. If you typically like being self reliant and don’t like to ask others for help in general. You can make it work with Stryde.

Otherwise it’ll cost you some more money but your end goal of being taller is the same. That is, if your PT is on point.

At this point I’m frustrated I can’t find a good position for stay on the laptop for any decent amount of time. I’m writing this on my phone as we speak. 

I’ve done the in bed with laptop tray. Sitting at desk. Will test out the standing desk next.

I dunno. Perhaps expect to not get anything done for 2-3 weeks. Unless you can stay in a steady state of euphoria with pain meds. I only got a week’s worth of Oxycodone at discharge. Then I only asked for 2 more days worth at refill because I heard they’re tough about it.
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2019, 11:41:42 AM »

Ring ring IFS and other Vets. Can I get tips on pain management after my one week of Oxy is up?
How long did you sleep with legs elevated for?
And I suppose my sleep broken up to multiple 1-2 hour sessions every night is just the way it goes. Roughly when did it get better for you guys? Can you describe how you’re sleeping on your side?

I’m tired.
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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2019, 06:16:39 PM »

nvm, I was having a moment other day. things are getting better. pain isn't as bad just nagging. I am 12 days post-op for reference.

Sleep has gotten better, with 1.5-2 hour sessions, once I switched to the sofa and used the end as a point to elevate my legs. I put a cushion at the end piece so I can play around with what gets my legs most comfortable. One leg might like it straighter, one leg may like it more bent at the knee. Adjust and you can find an okay place. It is much better than sleeping on the bed with pillows to elevate.

I am down to mostly the tylenol 500mg 2 pills every 6 hours. I'll continue with the last bit of my Oxy 1 pill for nighttime. I am doing my PT at home upon waking after distraction. Then a mini-moderate PT after every distraction after that. Then a PT before bedtime. In addition to the weekday PT sessions at Paley's.

CBD is legal in FL so I picked some up to vape. I can't say it's totally useless but won't do much for pain. It does relax you just a bit so it's enjoyable. If recreational MJ was legal here I'd surely try that.

For PT at Paley's I'm not letting any of them push me too far past my breaking point after the one bad experience. I don't believe it to be efficient. More repetitions of 20-30% past the breaking point leads to progression for me. That was one of the worst experiences of pain in my life and I just kept it all inside. F that!

I am on the cane only starting today to see how my legs handle things.
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« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2019, 12:46:33 AM »

Surgery day through discharge thoughts and tips

Everyone's experience is different. Certainly isn't easy but being prepared makes a world of difference. It was my fault for not re-reading all the diaries and preparing better before the surgery. So I'd definitely do that! Take notes from everyone's Stryde diaries.

Surgery day:
Not much to say about surgery day. Once you're there it's go time. You arrive 2 hours before surgery time. They prep you, go over what will happen, move you to the operating room. You get the countdown, and then you wake up in your hospital room for Paley's patients. Nice room with restroom and seating area if you have caretaker/love ones.

During the hospital stay
You have 4 nights covered under the fee. It just depends how you feel if you get discharged early. I was discharged after 3 nights.
I don't know if they'd provide anything other than what was given to me, but what was given kept me comfortable enough. I was on Toradol every 6 hours and Oxycodone every 4 hours. Other things included baby aspirin, vitamin D, and valium (muscle relaxer). Some nurses will visit you every 4-6 hours. Some are less often and wait for you to push the button (esp at night). You will be constantly visited by either the nurse, someone who takes your vitals, or someone draws your blood. Rather than wait for the pain to return, I'd just let them know you'd like the meds delivered at the set times. This may involve you setting an alarm on your phone for the night nurses who may not come routinely.

Have them re-fill the bags of ice whenever they're not cold anymore for the swelling. You'll be peeing into an angled container - it's tricky at first but you'll get the hang of it hehe. Hopefully you won't need to poop.

I didn't eat right away when they delivered the first meal. I was accessing my level of nausea and decided to have them give me something for it first. I gave it most of the day until I felt pretty good before eating. I never dealt with nausea after that.

On your second day, Paley's PT will visit you to get you out of bed. She tells me I can move my legs whenever I want. I wish I had known on the first day, it gets pretty uncomfortable with your legs in one position the entire day. Your legs are wrapped with compression to keep the blood flowing. If you have help you can unwrap them and take a break here and there. The PT will show you a few exercises you can do while laying down. Definitely do them. I did them once my pain meds kicked in each time. The PT will get you out of bed, onto a walker, and then onto a wheelchair to sit around for a bit. Definitely exhausting. The 3rd day, you can see how you do with moving around the walker outside the room. I made one circle around the floor and then she decided I can try the crutches. I made 10 steps and was exhausted. I kept up with the exercises every 2-4 hours. By the 4th day I was on crutches moving around my room before the PT would arrive. I let them know I can be discharged that day. All of this is included: walker, crutches, cane, portable toilet (just for the hang rails that go over your own toilet). I didn't need the wheelchair and they may stop providing them to Stryde patients in the future anyway. Your caregiver or family must take you from the hospital back to your place. No taxis or rideshares.

Things you should have set up before the surgery
This will mean you'll be paying for several nights where you won't be staying at your lodging. I set up everything myself after discharge and was exhausted!

You can decide what is optional for yourself.

Gel ice packs - keep the swelling down for the first week after discharge
Heating pads X2 - Week 2 and onwards (after the swelling goes away; you must sleep with your legs elevated for 1-2 weeks for the swelling to go down) you will deal with a nagging soreness constantly. Heat will help with the soreness ALOT. Esp if you'd like to sit at a computer desk as I am now : )
Something to wrap heating pads around each leg
Blue Sharpie - They draw a mark on your legs where you will place the ERC device for lengthening. The tegaderm may start un-doing on you. You'll have to replace it and re-fill in the marking.
Nexcare Tegaderm waterproof transparent dressing - to replace the dressing over that mark when needed.
Gym ankle straps - if you don't have help with PT at home or like to push yourself.
Resistance bands or similar - to loop through the ankle straps and pull for PT sessions
Bidet - I needed this. It's hard wiping your ass when your legs hurt. I get it best I can, then stand up and do one last wipe : )
Water bottle - depends how you intend to get water
Water filter jug - I got a Brita one
Water bottle holder - Because I'm alone, I got this water bottle holder than has a pouch for my phone also. Comes with shoulder sling also. So that I can carry it all at once around the room.
Paper plates and plasticware - no energy to be doing dishes
Tub transfer bench - a necessary I think if your room has a tub. If it's a shower then some other option. You won't be able to safety stand and shower for a while. Or even bend your legs high enough to enter the tub in the first place.

Toilet safety rails - I ended up not using the one I got discharged with. I reversed the tub transfer bench to the side that has the railing so I just use that.

Meds:

Stool softener & Laxative: Have this ready because you may not be able to have a bowel movement for a while after discharge. I had to wait a few days for it to arrive and later the same day taking it I was good to go. I had to take it just once more after the first pass.
Tylenol - they'll bring you Acetaminophen regular strength 100 tabs (2 every 4 hours). $10 for generic! Buy your own. I bought extra strength instead (2 every 6 hours).
Baby Aspirin 81mg - 30 pills for $10! Again, by your own.
Oxycodone - I forgot the exact price but it's prescription only so no choice here. Probably was around $45 for a week's worth (1 every 4 hours).

Supplements I take. Don't know what potentially helps or not, but they were cleared by the docs and PAs.

Vitamin D3 - a must; part of their protocol
Collagen supplements
Mens multivitamin
BCAAs

Experience with sleeping

I can't sleep. haha.

So you'll need to sleep with legs elevated for several weeks. I found once I did that properly, the swelling went down fast. Elevating with pillows on the bed didnt' work out. I switched to using the end piece of the sofa as a sturdy surface and that helped a bit. Still, sleep is 1.5-2 hour sessions at most. It's been like that for me for over 2 weeks post op.

After 2 weeks my sutures/wounds felt sturdy enough so I tried laying on my side. Big difference! Haven't actually slept that way yet but watch videos online about side sleeping after leg surgery. 2 Pillows under head or 1 folded. 1 pillow between thighs. 1 pillow to cradle like your lover. Maybe 1 on your backside.

Taking benadryl will get your drowsy for sure. But I found I was drowsy but still couldn't sleep the first 2 weeks due to discomfort. So I was very groggy.

Things will probably be better now once I try sleeping on my side.

All I have for now everyone. The main point is, being prepared can save you a lot of discomfort. So jot down everyone's tips!

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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2019, 07:03:04 PM »

Surgery day through discharge thoughts and tips

Everyone's experience is different. Certainly isn't easy but being prepared makes a world of difference. It was my fault for not re-reading all the diaries and preparing better before the surgery. So I'd definitely do that! Take notes from everyone's Stryde diaries.

Surgery day:
Not much to say about surgery day. Once you're there it's go time. You arrive 2 hours before surgery time. They prep you, go over what will happen, move you to the operating room. You get the countdown, and then you wake up in your hospital room for Paley's patients. Nice room with restroom and seating area if you have caretaker/love ones.

During the hospital stay
You have 4 nights covered under the fee. It just depends how you feel if you get discharged early. I was discharged after 3 nights.
I don't know if they'd provide anything other than what was given to me, but what was given kept me comfortable enough. I was on Toradol every 6 hours and Oxycodone every 4 hours. Other things included baby aspirin, vitamin D, and valium (muscle relaxer). Some nurses will visit you every 4-6 hours. Some are less often and wait for you to push the button (esp at night). You will be constantly visited by either the nurse, someone who takes your vitals, or someone draws your blood. Rather than wait for the pain to return, I'd just let them know you'd like the meds delivered at the set times. This may involve you setting an alarm on your phone for the night nurses who may not come routinely.

Have them re-fill the bags of ice whenever they're not cold anymore for the swelling. You'll be peeing into an angled container - it's tricky at first but you'll get the hang of it hehe. Hopefully you won't need to poop.

I didn't eat right away when they delivered the first meal. I was accessing my level of nausea and decided to have them give me something for it first. I gave it most of the day until I felt pretty good before eating. I never dealt with nausea after that.

On your second day, Paley's PT will visit you to get you out of bed. She tells me I can move my legs whenever I want. I wish I had known on the first day, it gets pretty uncomfortable with your legs in one position the entire day. Your legs are wrapped with compression to keep the blood flowing. If you have help you can unwrap them and take a break here and there. The PT will show you a few exercises you can do while laying down. Definitely do them. I did them once my pain meds kicked in each time. The PT will get you out of bed, onto a walker, and then onto a wheelchair to sit around for a bit. Definitely exhausting. The 3rd day, you can see how you do with moving around the walker outside the room. I made one circle around the floor and then she decided I can try the crutches. I made 10 steps and was exhausted. I kept up with the exercises every 2-4 hours. By the 4th day I was on crutches moving around my room before the PT would arrive. I let them know I can be discharged that day. All of this is included: walker, crutches, cane, portable toilet (just for the hang rails that go over your own toilet). I didn't need the wheelchair and they may stop providing them to Stryde patients in the future anyway. Your caregiver or family must take you from the hospital back to your place. No taxis or rideshares.

Things you should have set up before the surgery
This will mean you'll be paying for several nights where you won't be staying at your lodging. I set up everything myself after discharge and was exhausted!

You can decide what is optional for yourself.

Gel ice packs - keep the swelling down for the first week after discharge
Heating pads X2 - Week 2 and onwards (after the swelling goes away; you must sleep with your legs elevated for 1-2 weeks for the swelling to go down) you will deal with a nagging soreness constantly. Heat will help with the soreness ALOT. Esp if you'd like to sit at a computer desk as I am now : )
Something to wrap heating pads around each leg
Blue Sharpie - They draw a mark on your legs where you will place the ERC device for lengthening. The tegaderm may start un-doing on you. You'll have to replace it and re-fill in the marking.
Nexcare Tegaderm waterproof transparent dressing - to replace the dressing over that mark when needed.
Gym ankle straps - if you don't have help with PT at home or like to push yourself.
Resistance bands or similar - to loop through the ankle straps and pull for PT sessions
Bidet - I needed this. It's hard wiping your ass when your legs hurt. I get it best I can, then stand up and do one last wipe : )
Water bottle - depends how you intend to get water
Water filter jug - I got a Brita one
Water bottle holder - Because I'm alone, I got this water bottle holder than has a pouch for my phone also. Comes with shoulder sling also. So that I can carry it all at once around the room.
Paper plates and plasticware - no energy to be doing dishes
Tub transfer bench - a necessary I think if your room has a tub. If it's a shower then some other option. You won't be able to safety stand and shower for a while. Or even bend your legs high enough to enter the tub in the first place.

Toilet safety rails - I ended up not using the one I got discharged with. I reversed the tub transfer bench to the side that has the railing so I just use that.

Meds:

Stool softener & Laxative: Have this ready because you may not be able to have a bowel movement for a while after discharge. I had to wait a few days for it to arrive and later the same day taking it I was good to go. I had to take it just once more after the first pass.
Tylenol - they'll bring you Acetaminophen regular strength 100 tabs (2 every 4 hours). $10 for generic! Buy your own. I bought extra strength instead (2 every 6 hours).
Baby Aspirin 81mg - 30 pills for $10! Again, by your own.
Oxycodone - I forgot the exact price but it's prescription only so no choice here. Probably was around $45 for a week's worth (1 every 4 hours).

Supplements I take. Don't know what potentially helps or not, but they were cleared by the docs and PAs.

Vitamin D3 - a must; part of their protocol
Collagen supplements
Mens multivitamin
BCAAs

Experience with sleeping

I can't sleep. haha.

So you'll need to sleep with legs elevated for several weeks. I found once I did that properly, the swelling went down fast. Elevating with pillows on the bed didnt' work out. I switched to using the end piece of the sofa as a sturdy surface and that helped a bit. Still, sleep is 1.5-2 hour sessions at most. It's been like that for me for over 2 weeks post op.

After 2 weeks my sutures/wounds felt sturdy enough so I tried laying on my side. Big difference! Haven't actually slept that way yet but watch videos online about side sleeping after leg surgery. 2 Pillows under head or 1 folded. 1 pillow between thighs. 1 pillow to cradle like your lover. Maybe 1 on your backside.

Taking benadryl will get your drowsy for sure. But I found I was drowsy but still couldn't sleep the first 2 weeks due to discomfort. So I was very groggy.

Things will probably be better now once I try sleeping on my side.

All I have for now everyone. The main point is, being prepared can save you a lot of discomfort. So jot down everyone's tips!
2 weeks flew by bro! crazy haha how are you feeling yourself now in terms of pain? I'm just on day 3 and pay is pretty constant, nothing I can't handle but I pop the norcos every 4 hrs
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« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2019, 07:34:01 PM »


Things you should have set up before the surgery
This will mean you'll be paying for several nights where you won't be staying at your lodging. I set up everything myself after discharge and was exhausted!

You can decide what is optional for yourself.

Gel ice packs - keep the swelling down for the first week after discharge
Heating pads X2 - Week 2 and onwards (after the swelling goes away; you must sleep with your legs elevated for 1-2 weeks for the swelling to go down) you will deal with a nagging soreness constantly. Heat will help with the soreness ALOT. Esp if you'd like to sit at a computer desk as I am now : )
Something to wrap heating pads around each leg
Blue Sharpie - They draw a mark on your legs where you will place the ERC device for lengthening. The tegaderm may start un-doing on you. You'll have to replace it and re-fill in the marking.
Nexcare Tegaderm waterproof transparent dressing - to replace the dressing over that mark when needed.
Gym ankle straps - if you don't have help with PT at home or like to push yourself.
Resistance bands or similar - to loop through the ankle straps and pull for PT sessions
Bidet - I needed this. It's hard wiping your ass when your legs hurt. I get it best I can, then stand up and do one last wipe : )
Water bottle - depends how you intend to get water
Water filter jug - I got a Brita one
Water bottle holder - Because I'm alone, I got this water bottle holder than has a pouch for my phone also. Comes with shoulder sling also. So that I can carry it all at once around the room.
Paper plates and plasticware - no energy to be doing dishes
Tub transfer bench - a necessary I think if your room has a tub. If it's a shower then some other option. You won't be able to safety stand and shower for a while. Or even bend your legs high enough to enter the tub in the first place.

Toilet safety rails - I ended up not using the one I got discharged with. I reversed the tub transfer bench to the side that has the railing so I just use that.

Meds:

Stool softener & Laxative: Have this ready because you may not be able to have a bowel movement for a while after discharge. I had to wait a few days for it to arrive and later the same day taking it I was good to go. I had to take it just once more after the first pass.
Tylenol - they'll bring you Acetaminophen regular strength 100 tabs (2 every 4 hours). $10 for generic! Buy your own. I bought extra strength instead (2 every 6 hours).
Baby Aspirin 81mg - 30 pills for $10! Again, by your own.
Oxycodone - I forgot the exact price but it's prescription only so no choice here. Probably was around $45 for a week's worth (1 every 4 hours).

Supplements I take. Don't know what potentially helps or not, but they were cleared by the docs and PAs.

Vitamin D3 - a must; part of their protocol
Collagen supplements
Mens multivitamin
BCAAs


These tips are gold for preparation. Thanks for sharing OG! 
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« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2019, 11:31:41 PM »

Just checking in. I finished with 7.5cm! Quite the journey this has been.

Now on to recovery. I finished lengthening 4 days ago but I'll stick around west palm beach for a few weeks until I can walk a little better before going home.

Im on my feet walking unassisted but the gait isn't great. Need the glute strength back to stop the swaying.

I developed numbness in both lower legs and nerve pain in the left. Thankfully things are improving.
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« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2019, 12:17:29 AM »

You did it bro, crazy lol, congrats.
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« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2019, 11:52:30 AM »

Congratulations! You have finally made it!
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« Reply #47 on: October 17, 2019, 12:06:03 PM »

Props to you for making it with no caretaker - that's also what I ended up doing. Clearly the most difficult issue was going from the bed to the bathroom, and also food. I found that hotel staff (in Vegas that is) was very sympathetic and would have no problem escorting uber eats deliveries into my room. They literally brought food up to my bed. Staying at a full service hotel with room service would be even more convenient, but I don't know if any of Paley's recommended hotels have that option.


1. Thanks!! I'm actually curious what your movement is like those first few weeks.

2. Ex: can you easily safely crawl around on the floor to get from bedroom to the floor? I guess then there is the issue of being able to stand up to reach the toilet after crawling though. Still, I wonder if crawling on all fours like a baby is safe (or if its not worth it)

3. I'm wondering if it would help to get a stool or something to get in the bed or if a stool is a hazard because it could slip/is too small?

4. Are there other considerations in the layout of the room to make things easier to reach/decrease the odds of slipping or falling?

Thanks!!!!
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Re: Bi-Lateral Stryde With Paley Consult Summer '19
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2019, 03:50:09 PM »

Just checking in. I finished with 7.5cm! Quite the journey this has been.

Now on to recovery. I finished lengthening 4 days ago but I'll stick around west palm beach for a few weeks until I can walk a little better before going home.

Im on my feet walking unassisted but the gait isn't great. Need the glute strength back to stop the swaying.

I developed numbness in both lower legs and nerve pain in the left. Thankfully things are improving.

Congrats bro!

Everyone - I'm out here in WPB and I wish I could show you guys OGfivesevener's walk/gait now - it looks great for being just a few weeks out from distraction. Very little to no sway and great knee bend / heel to toe action, I would say his walk looks 80% ish normal. It's all about putting in the time stretching all throughout distraction!
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Surgery: 9/17/19 / Distraction completed: 12/14/19
Start height: 5'9 or 175cm / Endi Height: 6'0 ft or 183 cm
Rod Removal: Dr. Debiparshad 6/16/21
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Re: Bi-Lateral Stryde With Paley Consult Summer '19
« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2019, 12:57:03 AM »

1. Thanks!! I'm actually curious what your movement is like those first few weeks.

2. Ex: can you easily safely crawl around on the floor to get from bedroom to the floor? I guess then there is the issue of being able to stand up to reach the toilet after crawling though. Still, I wonder if crawling on all fours like a baby is safe (or if its not worth it)

3. I'm wondering if it would help to get a stool or something to get in the bed or if a stool is a hazard because it could slip/is too small?

4. Are there other considerations in the layout of the room to make things easier to reach/decrease the odds of slipping or falling?

Thanks!!!!

Thanks everyone. Still a ways to go before life is back to normal.

Cody,

1. Thanks!! I'm actually curious what your movement is like those first few weeks.
I was surprised I could be on my feet and moving around on crutches. I would switch back to the walker when tired.

2. Ex: can you easily safely crawl around on the floor to get from bedroom to the floor? I guess then there is the issue of being able to stand up to reach the toilet after crawling though. Still, I wonder if crawling on all fours like a baby is safe (or if its not worth it)
No crawling! lol. Wheelchair or Walker or Crutches

3. I'm wondering if it would help to get a stool or something to get in the bed or if a stool is a hazard because it could slip/is too small?
Most of us would just transfer from the Wheelchair/Walker/Crutches to the bed. I don't think it's much of an issue for most Stryde patients.

4. Are there other considerations in the layout of the room to make things easier to reach/decrease the odds of slipping or falling?
Nothing comes to mind. You just adapt to your environment. You'll have to prepare if transferring to the toilet or bathtub is an issue.
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Re: Bi-Lateral Stryde With Paley Consult Summer '19
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2020, 01:05:02 AM »

Would love to get an update on how you’re doing.
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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2021, 05:44:56 PM »

Wow, what a year it has been since I last updated. I was 1 month post lengthening with the last update. Now I'm coming up on 16 months post lengthening.

Like many others, once I was done lengthening and onto the recovery process, life just started to move on. I would think about logging back in every now and again but just not get around to it. But, I know if you're on this forum you'd like to hear about as many outcomes as possible. I can say my experience has been a positive one.

Overall, recovery has been smooth sailing and I feel blessed. I need to start considering a time to book rod-removal around Q2 - Q3 this year. As confident as I am with movement and getting around, I can't imagine being at 100% until the rods are out. I would gauge I'm at 80-85% in terms of movement and feeling normal.

Walking is normal and undetectable. I can jog but haven't tried for any significant distance, nor have I attempted a full-on run. There's no confidence in a full-on jump either. At the gym I keep the weights mild-moderate. No squats because I don't even want to consider the mechanics of it all at this point. I get on the leg press machine (no free weights), the leg extension, leg curls and the adduct/abduct machines. I've settled on not caring to push massive amounts of weight for the foreseeable future. But, rather just being in good health and decent physical shape.

In terms of pains, there is nothing I would call painful. My knees feel fine. I still have some numbness on my left shin area. I can't recall any episode of nerve pain for quite a long time now. Things still feel stiff if I keep my legs in any one position for a long time. Laying on either hip on any hard surface, I can feel things being tender there.

Again, my outcome has been positive overall. The last phase is going to be rod removal!

If anyone has any questions I will try my best to log back in every few days for a period of time before likely taking a break from the forums again. Hope everyone's doing okay through this crazy pandemic.
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« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2021, 06:05:57 PM »

Hey man, thanks for the diary. I'm glad you recovered well and got 7.5cm. love your tips and writing. Appreciate it man. Thinking about going to paleys soon
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« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2021, 08:58:37 PM »

In terms of pains, there is nothing I would call painful. My knees feel fine. I still have some numbness on my left shin area. I can't recall any episode of nerve pain for quite a long time now. Things still feel stiff if I keep my legs in any one position for a long time. Laying on either hip on any hard surface, I can feel things being tender there.

Not great to hear that you still have shin numbness after all this time as I've noticed lately that a lot of people have had persistent shin numbness a year or more after surgery. I've been having lots of nerve issues and my shins have been numb since about 3.5mm, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to be one of the people who is going to have numb shins for a long time T_T Do you remember at how many mms lengthened that your shin numbness started?

Glad everything else is going well for you though!
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« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2021, 10:27:18 PM »

Still having shin numbness is crazy, does it vary patient to patient? Or do all llers experience nerve pain/numbness?

Sitting with ur legs at the same position and having pain a year after is also discouraging
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« Reply #55 on: February 04, 2021, 10:56:25 PM »

Not great to hear that you still have shin numbness after all this time as I've noticed lately that a lot of people have had persistent shin numbness a year or more after surgery. I've been having lots of nerve issues and my shins have been numb since about 3.5mm, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to be one of the people who is going to have numb shins for a long time T_T Do you remember at how many mms lengthened that your shin numbness started?

Glad everything else is going well for you though!

The more I keep hearing about shin numbness, the more I feel like I shouldnt surpass 7cm internal femurs. If I really want to grow taller after that, then 5cm tibias later down the road. Optimal recovery is very important for me
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« Reply #56 on: February 04, 2021, 11:03:12 PM »

The more I keep hearing about shin numbness, the more I feel like I shouldnt surpass 7cm internal femurs. If I really want to grow taller after that, then 5cm tibias later down the road. Optimal recovery is very important for me

Belowthemean is only at 5cm and still have nerve pain (he's not done)
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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2021, 12:55:20 AM »

Wow, what a year it has been since I last updated. I was 1 month post lengthening with the last update. Now I'm coming up on 16 months post lengthening.

Like many others, once I was done lengthening and onto the recovery process, life just started to move on. I would think about logging back in every now and again but just not get around to it. But, I know if you're on this forum you'd like to hear about as many outcomes as possible. I can say my experience has been a positive one.

Overall, recovery has been smooth sailing and I feel blessed. I need to start considering a time to book rod-removal around Q2 - Q3 this year. As confident as I am with movement and getting around, I can't imagine being at 100% until the rods are out. I would gauge I'm at 80-85% in terms of movement and feeling normal.

Walking is normal and undetectable. I can jog but haven't tried for any significant distance, nor have I attempted a full-on run. There's no confidence in a full-on jump either. At the gym I keep the weights mild-moderate. No squats because I don't even want to consider the mechanics of it all at this point. I get on the leg press machine (no free weights), the leg extension, leg curls and the adduct/abduct machines. I've settled on not caring to push massive amounts of weight for the foreseeable future. But, rather just being in good health and decent physical shape.

In terms of pains, there is nothing I would call painful. My knees feel fine. I still have some numbness on my left shin area. I can't recall any episode of nerve pain for quite a long time now. Things still feel stiff if I keep my legs in any one position for a long time. Laying on either hip on any hard surface, I can feel things being tender there.

Again, my outcome has been positive overall. The last phase is going to be rod removal!

If anyone has any questions I will try my best to log back in every few days for a period of time before likely taking a break from the forums again. Hope everyone's doing okay through this crazy pandemic.

Do you ever have to "think" about any daily activities? For example, getting in and out of low vehicles, standing up while sitting on a low stool, climbing/descending stairs with no handrails, etc.
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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2021, 02:47:50 AM »

Belowthemean is only at 5cm and still have nerve pain (he's not done)

Thats not what I'm referring to. Im referring to lingering pain aafter distraction.
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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2021, 06:03:18 AM »

Thats not what I'm referring to. Im referring to lingering pain aafter distraction.

Numbness during the distraction phase is probably not going to influence your decision to go past 7cm or not. You'll likely have more pressing concerns than whether you'll have lingering numbness later on. For a lot of people it starts way before 7cm as well. You could get lingering numbness doing 5cm on the femurs, so I don't think it's a good example for a reason to stop at 7cm.
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« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2021, 09:19:48 AM »

.in my opinion if possible, slowing down lengthening is a good preventative for nerve damage reduction. Obviously with chance of preconsolidation that is not reality many times, and there is just an ether of uncertainty that isn't worth trying to figure out when it's your legs and a 10,000$ USD rebreak surgery on the line.
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« Reply #61 on: February 05, 2021, 06:02:48 PM »

Not great to hear that you still have shin numbness after all this time as I've noticed lately that a lot of people have had persistent shin numbness a year or more after surgery. I've been having lots of nerve issues and my shins have been numb since about 3.5mm, so I'm pretty sure I'm going to be one of the people who is going to have numb shins for a long time T_T Do you remember at how many mms lengthened that your shin numbness started?

Glad everything else is going well for you though!

I believe it was a little later than you. I know it sounds crazy to not think it a big deal, but it's hardly been a big deal this entire year. And it is very gradually getting better.

I am uncertain. But I have a feeling if I had kept up my stretching (I haven't) to anywhere near the extent they have us do in PT at Paley's, that the numbness could be improved faster.

You would think there'd be some motivation to stretch more. But nope lol
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