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Author Topic: will anyone that do more than 6cm in tibias have problems walking and running?  (Read 8967 times)

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KrP1

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well, this is the question, will anyone that do more than 5/6 cm in tibias have problems to walk normal and run normal? if you go beyon that will you have permanent seious problems about your athletic hability?
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In amatan's words, no one will be able to tell you how much you can or can't lengthen.  All of our bodies are different, some respond well to LL and some don't.  There's no definitive answer to this question.
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You will not go UNAFFECTED from LL, that's for sure.
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173cm before LL with Sarin, jan -13. Now 180cm tall. Considering 5cm on femurs.

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6 or 7, 4 or 5, they are the same to me....  you will have some  differences in terms of function no matter what.... just don't go too far.. which to me is around 8 cm
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Your body will tell you when to stop.
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KrP1

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my goal is 7 cm , cause im only 165cm tall , if i do only 5cm i will still be too short. i would like to get 10cm but i havent got more tan 36k dolars for this, so i cant do tibias and femurs .
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my goal is 7 cm , cause im only 165cm tall , if i do only 5cm i will still be too short. i would like to get 10cm but i havent got more tan 36k dolars for this, so i cant do tibias and femurs .

7 cm is doable if your goal is just to walk "normally" one day. I would say the normal scale for the tibs looks like this : 0-3cm ok ; 3-5 medium; 5-7 hard; 7-9 = Rly hard; >9 = you're rly crazy. 
It's a "crazy" thing, it's look easy on the paper but its the most difficult (and crazy) esthetic surgery.
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I'm just going to go for 5.5 cm and call it a day.
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Initial height: 164 cm / ~5'5" (Surgery on 6/25/2014)
Current height: 170 cm / 5'7" (Frames removed 6/29/2015)
External Tibia lengthening performed by Dr Mangal Parihar in Mumbai, India.
My Cosmetic Leg Lengthening Experience

Medium Drink Of Water

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I did more than 6cm in my tibias, and my walking and running are almost the same as before LL.  Almost.
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I want to walk normal and run normal. Obiously i wouldnt run 2km in 7.30 minutes as i could do now. But at least can run like a normal person without people laughing because i run like a penguin
« Last Edit: May 08, 2014, 11:32:34 PM by KirP1 »
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crimsontide

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medium is correct about this.... 6 or 7 cm is ok for most people....   you won't be exactly the same, but  will be good enough
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medium, is your walking totally normal now?
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Sweden

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medium, is your walking totally normal now?

Walking will be normal in most cases, but running will never be the same doing more than 5cm.
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173cm before LL with Sarin, jan -13. Now 180cm tall. Considering 5cm on femurs.

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You are definitely more likely to be "unaffected" by LL if you do 4 or 5 cm compared to 6 or 7 cm. Also 4 or 5 cm you will as a matter of fact be closer to your old self in terms of function compared to if you did more. The question is how much of a difference those extra cm contribute to loss of athleticism and function, that depends on the individual.
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Does anyone think it's possible to be faster after LL than before, if one does <5 CM?
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No, no chance in hell.
It's too much of a trauma.

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173cm before LL with Sarin, jan -13. Now 180cm tall. Considering 5cm on femurs.

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medium, is your walking totally normal now?

Nobody will look at me and wonder if there's something wrong with my legs.
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Claude

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Does anyone think it's possible to be faster after LL than before, if one does <5 CM?

It seems almost impossible, if you can be as fast then you are already lucky.
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But i should add i dont see the point of your question unless you are a pro, and if you are a pro then why would you do LL, sorry for me this question doesn't make any sens  :o
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Does anyone think it's possible to be faster after LL than before, if one does <5 CM?

the body can recover from the "damage" and "trauma" of the surgery imo. (remember that this surgery the incision is more controlled compared to a regular leg break which often can damage nearby soft tissue by splintering etc, which is why proffessional athletes who break legs usually are not as good as before)

However the definite permanent change is in the mechanics of the legs. Longer femurs means longer strides and longer tibias means shorter strides, but im not sure how that translates to running. Looking at pros it seems like having longer legs overall gives higher top speed, but maybe acceleration favors shorter legs possibly.

so could gaining longer legs make you run faster, maybe unless the strides get messed up by the ratio change.
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Claude

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the body can recover from the "damage" and "trauma" of the surgery imo. (remember that this surgery the incision is more controlled compared to a regular leg break which often can damage nearby soft tissue by splintering etc, which is why proffessional athletes who break legs usually are not as good as before)

However the definite permanent change is in the mechanics of the legs. Longer femurs means longer strides and longer tibias means shorter strides, but im not sure how that translates to running. Looking at pros it seems like having longer legs overall gives higher top speed, but maybe acceleration favors shorter legs possibly.

so could gaining longer legs make you run faster, maybe unless the strides get messed up by the ratio change.

You forget that the tendons  and muscles have been lenghtened too... and breaking one legg and lenghtening is not exactly the same in  term of consequences for your body. 
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I've found that, mechanically, my running is a lot less affected than my walking for some reason.  My guess is that the larger the movement, the less LL affects it.
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I found this online, and it was the basis of my question, earlier:

 From http://www.drmirkin.com

Dr. Gabe Mirkin's Fitness and Health e-Zine
October 28, 2007

Longer Lower Legs More Efficient

People who have longer lower leg lengths (the distance
from knee to ankle) will usually have greater endurance during
running or walking than those with shorter lower leg lengths.
Researchers at the University of Wisconsin showed that people
with longer lower legs use less energy when they run (Journal
of Human Evolution, August 2007).
In a previous paper in the same journal, these authors
showed that people with longer lower legs are better able to
prevent heat build-up, which slows you down and makes you
tired. When you exercise, almost 80 percent of the energy that
you use to power your muscles is lost as heat. So the harder you
exercise, the more heat you produce and the harder your heart
has to work to get rid of the extra heat. You prevent heat buildup
by your heart pumping hot blood from your muscles to the skin
where it is cooled by sweat and conduction and radiation.
People with longer lower limbs use up less oxygen and
produce less carbon dioxide for the same energy expenditure.
Therefore they are more efficient and can go further because
their bodies require less oxygen.
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You forget that the tendons  and muscles have been lenghtened too... and breaking one legg and lenghtening is not exactly the same in  term of consequences for your body.

yes, true, but i have heard that the soft tissue "grows" along with bone, just at a slower rate which is why the muscles get stretched at first but eventually adapt. This could be wrong though.
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Wannabegiant

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I found this online, and it was the basis of my question, earlier:

 From http://www.drmirkin.com

Dr. Gabe Mirkin's Fitness and Health e-Zine
October 28, 2007

Longer Lower Legs More Efficient

People who have longer lower leg lengths (the distance
from knee to ankle) will usually have greater endurance during
running or walking than those with shorter lower leg lengths.
Researchers at the University of Wisconsin showed that people
with longer lower legs use less energy when they run (Journal
of Human Evolution, August 2007).
In a previous paper in the same journal, these authors
showed that people with longer lower legs are better able to
prevent heat build-up, which slows you down and makes you
tired. When you exercise, almost 80 percent of the energy that
you use to power your muscles is lost as heat. So the harder you
exercise, the more heat you produce and the harder your heart
has to work to get rid of the extra heat. You prevent heat buildup
by your heart pumping hot blood from your muscles to the skin
where it is cooled by sweat and conduction and radiation.
People with longer lower limbs use up less oxygen and
produce less carbon dioxide for the same energy expenditure.
Therefore they are more efficient and can go further because
their bodies require less oxygen.

Thats really interesting, i hope its true. I remember reading on the old forum that Eritrean long distance runners had longer lower leg length than average, which also further strenghtens this theory. 
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Totally cannot be a professional athletes lol

but I think normal exercises won't be bad...
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