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[Johnson1111]

have you seen them yourself? how is their walk btw, can it be "hidden" from normal people ie. returning to work 1 month post-op

That's amazing if true. Wish I could afford it without selling my soul.

[Messenger]

I’m going to be going this Tuesday for my consult with paley.  Hopefully I’ll see some Stryde patients that are at different points of their lengthenjng so I can see how they actually walk and their thoughts on it.

[Leggs]

I’m going to be going this Tuesday for my consult with paley.  Hopefully I’ll see some Stryde patients that are at different points of their lengthenjng so I can see how they actually walk and their thoughts on it.

That shouldn't be too difficult for you Messenger. Dr. Paley only uses STRYDE now so patients should be everywhere. Most likely there will be some STRYDE patients at the rehab facility after your consultation. If the patients are cool they will let you watch some of their stretching exercises with the therapist. That was something I did & found very helpful.

[Leggs]

[TemakiSushi]

That shouldn't be too difficult for you Messenger. Dr. Paley only uses STRYDE now so patients should be everywhere. Most likely there will be some STRYDE patients at the rehab facility after your consultation. If the patients are cool they will let you watch some of their stretching exercises with the therapist. That was something I did & found very helpful.

Paley still has to use Precice2 for those who with thin tibia.
Stryde only starts with 10mm.
My height is 159 and seems that my tibia cannot allow 10mm Stryde.
very bad news to me.  people should check xrays before going overseas for stryde.

[Iamready]

It’s truly mind blowing seeing patients walk on their nails. What an incredible advancement.  Absolute game changer.

I saw 2 patients. 1 had recently undergone surgery and was walking through the halls with assistance of a physical therapist.  Slowly but still amazing.
The second patient, i'm not sure how far along he was, all I know is that he was still lengthening and was walking little indication that something stood out.
I would have never known.

[Pilor]

Wow, thanks "Iamready" this is uplifting news!

So did I understand correctly, in your eyes the second patient was almost walking normally?

What is your guess of his status of lengthening (cm)? And do you know if he did CLL bilateral femur?

🙏🏻 thanks

[Iamready]

It was tibias which makes it harder to believe. I'm not sure how much he lengthened but I remember my jaw dropping when I was told.  He was walking no differently than someone who did a hard leg workout at the gym.

[Pilor]

Incredible... bilateral?

[Iamready]

yup

[The Dreamer]

Nice to see you around here Iamready !
Do you think could you gather more specific info about the patients(how much did they lengthened,ecc )?
Or ask them to share their experience here ?
So Stryde is a real dealbreaker

[Iamready]

I didn't want to invade their privacy. I only saw them when I flew back to get the nails removed.  I flew home a few days after surgery.

[The Dreamer]

Nice to see you around here Iamready !
Do you think could you gather more specific info about the patients(how much did they lengthened,ecc )?
Or ask them to share their experience here ?
So Stryde is a real dealbreaker

I have meant a game changer,I did a mistake
Thanks for the report Iamready,feel free to update us if you get more news

[Pilor]

Does anybody know what we can assume under the definition "fatigue load"?

Thanks

[JON SNOW]

"In materials science, fatigue is the weakening of a material caused by repeatedly applied loads. It is the progressive and localized structural damage that occurs when a material is subjected to cyclic loading."

so STRYDE nail failure, considered a certain weight in a certain number of cycles

[JON SNOW]

STRYDE is really a game changer

the next technological leap, it would be something like a nail made of nanobots maybe in 100 years haha

Meanwhile, what should be improved is something that intervenes in the growth and recovery of the soft tissue, 

cktail of steroids and hgh HGH, stem cell therapy?

[myloginacc]

Stryde is a game changer in terms of fixation, not osteogenesis.

Be sure we'll be seeing a lot of news regarding the latter in the next 5 to 10 years. Osteogenesis is very important for those who survived accidents with incredible amounts of trauma.

[goodlucktomylegs]

I didn't want to invade their privacy. I only saw them when I flew back to get the nails removed.  I flew home a few days after surgery.

How do you feel now?
Could you show some video of your waltking and running?

[0184946]

Why would LL ever cost that much may as well by a house with that.

[Selenius]

stryde is the best option right now.
I'm sure endless patients are going with this nail
i'm waiting so badly for diaries

[Selenius]

STRYDE is really a game changer

the next technological leap, it would be something like a nail made of nanobots maybe in 100 years haha

Meanwhile, what should be improved is something that intervenes in the growth and recovery of the soft tissue, 

cktail of steroids and hgh HGH, stem cell therapy?

NOthing like that is coming soon
Maybe in the next century
Do stryde,is the best option and it will be for a long time
no other significant improvements will be soon available

[Kotiki]

"At NSO, we are excited to introduce PRECICE STRYDE to the market, which is just the start of a long line of PRECICE products in the next 18-months to further transform the orthopedic space and offer better clinical outcomes for patients,” said Massimo Calafiore, president of NSO. “There is so much opportunity for us to address unmet clinical needs in the orthopedic market—from limb reconstruction to stature lengthening—this latest technology has the ability to drastically improve how our surgeon partners treat their patients.”

Quote from here: https://www.nuvasive.com/news/nuvasive-precice-stryde-system-used-in-first-patient-for-stature-lengthening-by-international-limb-lengthening-expert/

I wonder what they meant by STRYDE being just the start. What else is in the pipeline? Anyone wants to make an educated guess?

[Leggs]

"At NSO, we are excited to introduce PRECICE STRYDE to the market, which is just the start of a long line of PRECICE products in the next 18-months to further transform the orthopedic space and offer better clinical outcomes for patients,” said Massimo Calafiore, president of NSO. “There is so much opportunity for us to address unmet clinical needs in the orthopedic market—from limb reconstruction to stature lengthening—this latest technology has the ability to drastically improve how our surgeon partners treat their patients.”

Quote from here: https://www.nuvasive.com/news/nuvasive-precice-stryde-system-used-in-first-patient-for-stature-lengthening-by-international-limb-lengthening-expert/

I wonder what they meant by STRYDE being just the start. What else is in the pipeline? Anyone wants to make an educated guess?

I noticed that same exact quote in the article & asked Dr. Paley specifically about it back when the article was first released. He told me that is a reference to the multiple diameter nails of Stryde being released & the release of Stryde to international markets.

My impression after communicating with Dr. Paley was that Stryde will be the apex of lengthening nails. I even asked Dr. Paley if he one day foresees a lengthening nail that allows patients to run during the lengthening process, & his answer was no.

[Kotiki]

I noticed that same exact quote in the article & asked Dr. Paley specifically about it back when the article was first released. He told me that is a reference to the multiple diameter nails of Stryde being released & the release of Stryde to international markets.

My impression after communicating with Dr. Paley was that Stryde will be the apex of lengthening nails. I even asked Dr. Paley if he one day foresees a lengthening nail that allows patients to run during the lengthening process, & his answer was no.

That's excellent information! Do you mean to say that there are smaller diameters of STRYDE in the pipeline? Cause right now it's a limiting factor for tibia lengthening for a lot of people, especially women.

[TemakiSushi]

That's excellent information! Do you mean to say that there are smaller diameters of STRYDE in the pipeline? Cause right now it's a limiting factor for tibia lengthening for a lot of people, especially women.

                              Fatigue Load(lbs)
Precice2   8.5mm        67
Precice2  10.7mm       118
Precice2  12.5mm        146
Stryde     10mm        167
Stryde     11.5mm      244
Stryde     13mm         320

when looked at this chart, you can estimate that even if Stryde 8.5mm was made, the fatigue load would  be probably less than 100lbs.
And with the fact that P2 8.5mm nail's weight bearing restrictions is even 50 lbs(24kg), Stryde 8.5mm would be around 70 lbs or so at most.
For adult women it will be difficult to walk unaided with this weight limitation.

[Kotiki]

                              Fatigue Load(lbs)
Precice2   8.5mm        67
Precice2  10.7mm       118
Precice2  12.5mm        146
Stryde     10mm        167
Stryde     11.5mm      244
Stryde     13mm         320

when looked at this chart, you can estimate that even if Stryde 8.5mm was made, the fatigue load would  be probably less than 100lbs.
And with the fact that P2 8.5mm nail's weight bearing restrictions is even 50 lbs(24kg), Stryde 8.5mm would be around 70 lbs or so at most.
For adult women it will be difficult to walk unaided with this weight limitation.

I weigh 47 kg (100 lbs). Why do you predict that 8.5 Stryde would be basically no better than 8.5 precise nail? I see significant gains in other diameters.

[TemakiSushi]

I weigh 47 kg (100 lbs). Why do you predict that 8.5 Stryde would be basically no better than 8.5 precise nail? I see significant gains in other diameters.

Stryde nails are much thicker than Precice nails.
When size is same, gain is not that a lot.
From 13mm to 11.5mm,  about 80 lbs is lost.
Just from this you can see 8.5mm will not bear more than 100lbs.
And weight limitation will be much less than fatigue load.

[TemakiSushi]

So only femurs may have a chance to put Stryde 10mm for petit women.
But for tibia less chance of Stryde.

[Kotiki]

So only femurs may have a chance to put Stryde 10mm for petit women.
But for tibia less chance of Stryde.

Do you know if there is direct correlation between height and the diameter of the tibia bone canal?

[Kotiki]

I can't find this information right now, but I remember seeing it somewhere, that the size of the bone doesn't necessarily correlate directly to the size of the medullary cavities. In other words, a stocky, heavy-built man could have more narrow medullary cavities in his long bones than a petite woman.

[TemakiSushi]

I can't find this information right now, but I remember seeing it somewhere, that the size of the bone doesn't necessarily correlate directly to the size of the medullary cavities. In other words, a stocky, heavy-built man could have more narrow medullary cavities in his long bones than a petite woman.

Yes male bones are tend to be bigger and have thicker walls so it gives more space to ream.
Female tibia bone walls are much thinner so it’s more difficult to  ream, besides bones are not 100% straight.
To put a nail, space needs to be 1mm or  1.5mm bigger than nail diameter.  If walls are thick enough, bones can be reamed but if it’s too thin, no chance.
Needs to see with Very precise X-rays.
before planning surgery better check your bone diameters and walls of tibia.