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[Ana-luiza]

I have always wanted to be taller since I can remember. I actually used to sleep with ankle weights on and do a whole bunch of extra   so I could grow taller when I was 15. My mom is 5’9” (fking goals) and my dad is my height (5’4.5”) actually I think he has said 5’5.5”  he has also always wanted to be taller but he really doesn’t care that badly.

I think I discovered limb lengthening when I was like 17 and I’m 21 now, by the way. And I was like wow you can get taller through surgery. So cool. I also discovered how much it cost. This is when I was 17 and broke though so I was like “ maybe when I’m rich.” I’m more rich now then I was before, I make the second most money in all my family (extended included). So this surgery now becomes a real possibility for me. Have seen this forum so many times throughout the years when I google   on limb lengthening but have never considered joining (no particular reason why).  However recently been combing through this forum and have some questions that I can’t find an answer to. If you have links or the answers, that’d be cool.

1. Decreased athleticism- I’ve wondered if this just means running, as that’s what everyone applies this to. I honestly don’t care if I can’t run on a treadmill for an hour at full speed. I’m naturally very athletic with thick calves and legs (I’ve even done lipo to make my legs smaller but it’s all muscle at this point) that I don’t like so if you’re telling me that lengthening them will make my muscles smaller, I’m here for it baby! However if you’re saying that lengthening would affect my ability to do core workouts or  I won’t be able to run away from someone trying to kill me (short sprint) or I can’t do pole dancing or Krav Maga (two sports I enjoy immensely) or swim leisurely (things along those lines. Like not serious athletic prowess just leisurely things to keep in shape), then I will 100% reconsider doing this. It’s not completely necessary to me. It’s something I’d really really really like to do but not being able to defend myself from someone attacking me (Krav Maga) or run away from someone trying to kill me, would make me seriously reconsider. I’m not going to wilfully cripple myself in that sense.

2. Knee pain- this has been debated a lot amongst users. What causes long-term knee pain? I’m going to Richard Luzzi for lengthening, if any of you know of him. I will ask him about this problem as well but I don’t think he’d volunteer any kind of information that would deter me from giving him tens of thousands of dollars without minimalising it or trying to reassure me. He told me he has worked with Paley in Baltimore and that he was going to see him this weekend so I emailed Dr Paley and asked him if he knew this guy and he said yes and that he was coming that weekend (I didn’t ask him if Luzzi was coming. He volunteered the info) so I trust him but just because they’re friends and have worked together doesn’t mean they’re of the same câliner so any info on him, as well, would be helpful

3. Ballerina foot and duck ass- have seen this a lot. Can’t find any useful info when I google it or see pictures. What’s the actual term for these conditions? What is it? What happens to your foot? What does it look like? Just curious. How can you prevent this (talked to dr Luzzi because I already have a tight Achilles’ tendon caused by toe walking and he will do procedure to lengthen the muscle and tibia and femur lengthening three weeks apart) with internal rods? (I’m addition, Dr Luzzi starts physical therapy while lengthening, if that helps)

4. Flexibility- Time it takes to start walking and running and physical activity varies and has been discussed extensively  but if you want to reference me to threads and tell me your experiences that’s cool. However, I haven’t seen anything on flexibility in legs. I like dancing. Will I eventually be able to do splits again, scorpion, etc. You get the point; bending my legs in all different directions.

5. Safety- Oooh. One more question on safety. I’m 164 cm and wanted to lengthen 6 cm in femur and 5 cm in tibia. I like the look of long legs on women obviously so I’ve never been concerned with wingspan proportions or any of those things I’ve seen here. Just want to know maximum amount I can do safely and maybe how does that affect recovery (doing the maximum amount of lengthening)

6. Women- are there any other women on this thread that have shared their experiences or would like to? Wonder how different it would be.

7. Any criticisms- save us both the time, your opinion on me wanting to get taller is irrelevant to me and hypocrisy at its best. Anyone with judgements is not a special snowflake that is the only one with a good enough reason to consider this. I ask that we refrain from being dcks as I will not acknowledge you.

[myloginacct]

I think the only woman's diary we have is Unicorn's, so yeah...

About the rest: it's easier (and better) for you to do your own research in this forum. It's your own body that is at stake. Lots of reading to be done in this section alone.

[myloginacct]

Read as many patients' diaries as you can.

3. Ballerina foot and duck ass- have seen this a lot. Can’t find any useful info when I google it or see pictures. What’s the actual term for these conditions? What is it? What happens to your foot? What does it look like? Just curious. How can you prevent this (talked to dr Luzzi because I already have a tight Achilles’ tendon caused by toe walking and he will do procedure to lengthen the muscle and tibia and femur lengthening three weeks apart) with internal rods? (I’m addition, Dr Luzzi starts physical therapy while lengthening, if that helps)

BF is equinus contracture, I'm fairly sure. It is like tiptoeing without meaning to, when you walk. Or wearing invisible heels. It's a consequence of limb lengthening, and the chance you get it (and how bad it gets) is also associated with how much you lengthen. The ways to prevent it and deal with it differ by doctor.




Duck ass is also a consequence of LL, mostly the femurs (IIRC).



It's like the anterior pelvic tilt in this picture, and it can get worse the more you lengthen after it starts. This generally requires additional surgeries to solve. Just imagine a duck walking and you get the picture. The duck's behind would be its "ass".

However if you’re saying that lengthening would affect my ability to do core workouts or  I won’t be able to run away from someone trying to kill me (short sprint)

This is a real possibility. A member of the forums couldn't run to catch a bus. LL makes you lose stamina/endurance.

There's also a thread about this specific subject, given how much of a concern it is.

[short2tall]

Welcome to the forum Ana. We certainly won't try to dissuade you from pursuing the surgery, we just want to make sure you understand the reality of it. The terms everyone throws around can be confusing at times.

As myloginaccount said, ballerina foot is when your toes are stuck in a pointed position, forcing you to walk on your tip-toes. This comes from the Achilles tendon not stretching far enough when lengthening tibias. You did say your doctor will lengthen the tendon so that should prevent ballerina foot for the most part.

Duck ass mainly comes from the IT band not stretching far enough when you lengthen the femurs. It will not enable you to fully extend your legs and causes you to walk funny. This is rectified by partially releasing the IT band. Most surgeons using internal lengthening devices will recommend doing the IT band release. I had my IT bands released and have not experienced any duck ass.

To answer a couple of your other questions, you will definitely lose a lot of the muscle in your legs during this procedure, so that may be a positive side effect for you. You should be able to run and work out normally once you are fully recovered. Your flexibility is probably going to take quite a while to come back, especially if you are doing both femurs and tibias. That really puts a lot of strain on all of the soft tissue in the legs. If you are a dancer you might have a hard time getting back to where you are now. I think it would be a very long time (years) before you would be doing splits, etc.

I also agree many women look great with long legs, and can probably get away with a greater leg to torso ratio than men. Good luck on your journey.

[Ana-luiza]

Thank you so much for linking to me. Also, pardon if this is simple, but how would I search for Unicorn’s post?

[Ana-luiza]

Read as many patients' diaries as you can.

BF is equinus contracture, I'm fairly sure. It is like tiptoeing without meaning to, when you walk. Or wearing invisible heels. It's a consequence of limb lengthening, and the chance you get it (and how bad it gets) is also associated with how much you lengthen. The ways to prevent it and deal with it differ by doctor.




Duck ass is also a consequence of LL, mostly the femurs (IIRC).



It's like the anterior pelvic tilt in this picture, and it can get worse the more you lengthen after it starts. This generally requires additional surgeries to solve. Just imagine a duck walking and you get the picture. The duck's behind would be its "ass".


This is a real possibility. A member of the forums couldn't run to catch a bus. LL makes you lose stamina/endurance.

There's also a thread about this specific subject, given how much of a concern it is.

Ohhhh okay. These are conditions I have now. I walk on my toes and have anterior pelvic tilt due to toe walking. So maybe I should do some physical therapy prior in addition to the band release?