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Re: Agonizing over my decision to do LL or not
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2014, 10:13:04 PM »

I understand.
But what really is the matter with your legs?
Ballerina shouldn't give you aches in the morning when you wake up.
X-legs shouldn't cause pain in the ankles and feet.

What exactly has been the issue with your extremely slow recovery?
Is your soft-tissue simply not adapting because your body is like that? I guess then it's no one's fault.  :-\

Tight ankles. It hurts in the mornings and sometimes during the day.

The ankle flexibity is still far from what it once were.

I don't see my recovery as slow. This is what happens with LL.
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173cm before LL with Sarin, jan -13. Now 180cm tall. Considering 5cm on femurs.

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Re: Agonizing over my decision to do LL or not
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2014, 12:00:39 AM »

I feel I'm in the same place as you.  I have so much going for me- in a decent financial situation, young and healthy, have a loving and supporting family, even have a good looking face and a lean/fit body, and am considered quite well dressed.  The only thing holding me back, I feel, is my height. 

At 165cm I feel I'm at such a disadvantage when it comes to attracting the opposite sex, and where I live the ladies are often a pinch taller than me.  I think I'm already considered somewhat of a 'catch,' according to close friends, but mentally I cannot fathom this myself because of my shortness. 

I think there's this fear that no matter how much you work towards being successful/attractive, you're still "ruined" by your height.  The notion sounds absurd- why dismiss a person for having one undesirable physical characteristic- let alone a characteristic they cannot change besides going through a painful, costly, one-time (or possible two-time) surgery? 

But when the undesirability of short men is constantly reinforced by the media as short guys are always getting subsidiary, nonsexual and sometimes demeaning roles in TV/movies, and how it's become commonplace for others to make light of a man's shortness, and seeing as how it's quite rare for shorter guys to be dating ladies taller than them... how does a short male avoid feeling undesirable at times?  I'm always rooting for short fellows who prove the myriad assumptions people have of short men wrong, who aren't at all bothered by their height, but as someone who experiences these feelings daily, it feels like LL might be a meaningful avenue to explore, very likely something to be done in the future. 

I also want to make a point about about some really strange, contradictory feelings that I have in having good looking features but being short.  Waiting at the train station the other day I parked myself one seat over to allow a woman to sit next to me.  As I get up to board the train she hastily glances over to me and says "hi."  It's a pretty novel occurrence for any complete stranger to approach me, but furthermore she was an absolutely stunning lady.  My socially maladroit self didn't really figure out a proper response before stepping foot on the train, but more to the point it was an incredibly rare instance in my life that gave me pause.  Had she known I was short before I got up from my seat, would she have expressed the same level of interest in talking to me?  How much more attractive am I sitting, with my relatively longer upper body (that happens to look considerably bigger than average height guys, especially those with bad posture), than I am when I'm standing?  Specifically, how much is my height dogging me down in terms of my attractiveness- or conversely how much more attractive could I be at 5'8?

Just some thoughts I thought I'd share, since maybe you've been in similar situations, or maybe have felt similarly before. 
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Re: Agonizing over my decision to do LL or not
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2014, 01:30:38 AM »

I think some of the worst feelings I have had about my height occurred in similar situations.  I remember many times sitting in class, or at a bar, or on the train.  I got much interest from a girl or group of girls.  And then I stood up and the interest was completely gone.  Worst feeling ever.
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Re: Agonizing over my decision to do LL or not
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2014, 02:23:01 AM »

I think some of the worst feelings I have had about my height occurred in similar situations.  I remember many times sitting in class, or at a bar, or on the train.  I got much interest from a girl or group of girls.  And then I stood up and the interest was completely gone.  Worst feeling ever.

The fact that women feel interested in you when you sit down tells me that you already ahead of many guys out there. Most men don't get interest from women either way, standing nor sitting. You can picture the guy with the pimple face at the gym or the man with the all wrinkled up look.

I think women tend to be more readily to express their interest in you when they see that you have an obvious weakness. But when you are good-looking, they are more careful with expressing their interest, because like you, they also fear of rejection. So that means they probably already have a sense of your height when you are sitting down. So you don't need to feel like that was the main cause. Perhaps, their interest wane when you stood because they thought that you were about to leave and didn't want to hold you back.. lol, who knows.

And I know what you feel. There was this girl who initially had a crush on me 10 years ago. She was Eurasian, quite cute. But when she saw me at a supermarket, I could hear she whispered to her friend, "..... but he's sooooo short." That really hurt me. And after that she ignored me completely. That was 10 years ago. But through the years and going through different jobs, I acquire a few life experiences and skills from different mentor and from the people who I meet... like how to talk, how to carry yourself, and how to solve a problem. Like.. try to turn a lemon into lemonade. I met the same girl again (before I did LL) 3 years ago and she was awe by my changes, even thought I was at the same height.

Now, if I meet that girl again, we're not even in the same league anymore. One of my amusement these days is to bump into a girl who has rejected me before... just to see the look on their face. I live in the same area as I have since high-school so this is quite a common occurence. But better yet, I want to meet the girls who I admire before and who also admire me but who I didn't have the confident to pursue. I want to let them know that they had never chosen the wrong guy after all, me :D
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Re: Agonizing over my decision to do LL or not
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2014, 01:12:27 PM »

Just wanted to thank everyone for their responses here. Your responses, and the additional reflection I have done since missing my first date have really made me sure that I want to do this.

For me, it's now or never. I have a supportive boss/job right now, my insurance will (most likely I am told) cover a huge chunk of the hospital bills, I'm fairly young (29), and my family (even my father) is coming around. So I feel like I have all the tools that I need. And I need to get this done soon, because I want to make moves in my career, since I just got my master's degree from a great school last year. As far as finances, I have enough saved up where I will still be able to (just about) put a down payment on a house even after all surgery costs (though I may be closer to being house poor, but I'll probably put off the house project for a while anyway now).

Many girls have already called me hot/sexy/gorgeous, and people have said that I could be a "face model" (which I always kinda took as a backhanded compliment, alluding to my lack of height). I always got many matches on Tinder, but (since I put my height as a disclaimer in the mini-profile), not as many actual dates with attractive women (though I still scored a decent number of dates with attractive women using online dating in general).

Going from just under 5'6" to 5'8"/5'8.5" is probably still very short to many of you on here (lol at some of you doing LL when you're already 5'10" - smh)...but with everything else I've got going, I will be good to go at that height :)

Time to make some moves.
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