Topic: Femoral Lengthening with Dr. Paley (Read 128357 times)

CaptainAmerica · « **Reply #248 on:** August 10, 2018, 08:15:51 PM »

Hey man, glad to hear about your recovery and I hope my questions don’t stress you out or discourage you.

Are you able to disclose the interest rate on your loan? What did you offer as collateral? Was it your high paying job? How soon do you plan on paying it off? I think you said 5 years right? So i’m Assuming you’re allocating maybe ~20% of your annual income to repayment?

I’m thinking of financing my LL with Paley through a loan as well, just looking for any and all advice/info you can give. I can’t imagine going to a bank and saying to their face I need $100,000 for cosmetic limb lengthening, so I was wondering how you went about this.

Purushrottam · « **Reply #249 on:** August 11, 2018, 01:02:51 AM »

Quote from: CaptainAmerica on August 10, 2018, 08:15:51 PM

Hey man, glad to hear about your recovery and I hope my questions don’t stress you out or discourage you.

Are you able to disclose the interest rate on your loan? What did you offer as collateral? Was it your high paying job? How soon do you plan on paying it off? I think you said 5 years right? So i’m Assuming you’re allocating maybe ~20% of your annual income to repayment?

I’m thinking of financing my LL with Paley through a loan as well, just looking for any and all advice/info you can give. I can’t imagine going to a bank and saying to their face I need $100,000 for cosmetic limb lengthening, so I was wondering how you went about this.

Your questions don't stress me out at all.

My loan interest rate is 10.4 % (I don't remember exactly) compounded annually. It's a 7 year alone and I have 6 years left. My monthly payment is about $1350. That's about 9.5% of my monthly income.

It's an unsecured loan from Sofi, meaning that there is no collateral... hence the high interest rate.

My income when I applied was $150k, which approved me for 80k max. My income is now $170k. I plan on paying it off aggressively (2 years instead of 6) by making extra payments.

OverrideYourGenetics also used the same loan provider.

The only advice I have is to have spotless credit and relatively high income. When I decided I wanted to get LL (3 years ago), I was only making $80k/year. More on this later as I'm about to lose internet for a few hours.

doomsday · « **Reply #250 on:** August 11, 2018, 01:21:28 PM »

Are you guys in IT or having your own businesses? Those salaries in Europe are massive.

Pilor · « **Reply #251 on:** August 11, 2018, 04:13:39 PM »

What us your effort regarding stretching - time comittment per day, per week?

OverrideYourGenetics · « **Reply #252 on:** August 11, 2018, 09:00:52 PM »

Quote from: doomsday on August 11, 2018, 01:21:28 PM

Are you guys in IT or having your own businesses? Those salaries in Europe are massive.

Puru and I were software engineers in Silicon Valley. Salaries are high, but the cost of living is disproportionately higher. Puru moved out of here, and I plan to do so too.

My loans - https://overrideyourgenetics.com/cost/

lucindaris · « **Reply #253 on:** August 11, 2018, 09:33:31 PM »

Actually i got an offer to move there but i am still thinking. Still I am fine being freelancer in Europe and doing stuff for Benelux countries which pay well. May i ask You something? Why do you want to leave Silicon Valley?

Purushrottam · « **Reply #254 on:** August 12, 2018, 04:39:01 AM »

Quote from: OverrideYourGenetics on August 11, 2018, 09:00:52 PM

Puru and I were software engineers in Silicon Valley. Salaries are high, but the cost of living is disproportionately higher. Puru moved out of here, and I plan to do so too.

My loans - https://overrideyourgenetics.com/cost/

Correct.

Quote from: lucindaris on August 11, 2018, 09:33:31 PM

Actually i got an offer to move there but i am still thinking. Still I am fine being freelancer in Europe and doing stuff for Benelux countries which pay well. May i ask You something? Why do you want to leave Silicon Valley?

Yeah the salaries are much higher compared to anywhere I've heard of in Europe. I used to work with immigrants from France, UK, Spain, Germany, and Australia... all developed countries but with low salary prospects for Software Engineers. Although, an Indian colleage of mine had gotten an offer for a $180k/year job with a utility company in Norway but he turned it down because he didn't want to live in rural Norway and didn't want to give up his progress with US immigration.

I left for many reasons. Because a lot of people make those salaries (10 % of people make more than $180k there), everything is expensive. Even a couple where each person is making $150k + will not be able to buy a house in an area with good schools and short commutes. It's a ty life. A lot of my Silicon Valley friends are moving out for similar reasons.

It's also boring as hell. Outside of SF most of SV is a giant suburb.It's the worst place to spend your 20s as a single dude. I hate to sound like Trump but it really is a sh(I)thole in my perspective.

lucindaris · « **Reply #255 on:** August 12, 2018, 10:52:09 AM »

That's interesting. Thank You for your opinion. I mean these salaries are possible in Switzerland or Norway but its expensive to live there aswell.

Johnson1111 · « **Reply #256 on:** August 12, 2018, 03:49:03 PM »

Yes to go to paley it costs absolute bank.

Purushrottam · « **Reply #257 on:** August 14, 2018, 03:07:39 AM »

Quote from: lucindaris on August 12, 2018, 10:52:09 AM

That's interesting. Thank You for your opinion. I mean these salaries are possible in Switzerland or Norway but its expensive to live there aswell.

No problem. I realize that it is a bit extreme of an opinion. The place has good weather and is great if you love outdoorsy stuff. Just not my cup of tea.

Quote from: Johnson1111 on August 12, 2018, 03:49:03 PM

Yes to go to paley it costs absolute bank.

Agreed. Don't forget though, time is also money. External methods might be "cheaper", but if the recovery/time away from work is longer, then the actual cost is higher (opportunity cost).

Purushrottam · « **Reply #258 on:** August 18, 2018, 03:14:07 AM »

Mini update

Jogged 2 miles yesterday. Legs were really sore all day today.

OverrideYourGenetics · « **Reply #259 on:** September 22, 2018, 06:03:05 AM »

Hey Puru,

I've posted a timeline of your progress on my diary since someone claimed my recovery was slow and I wanted to compare it with yours. Thank you for being an inspiration!

How recovered would you say you are at this point, vs. your pre-CLL abilities?

Purushrottam · « **Reply #260 on:** September 23, 2018, 02:01:14 PM »

Quote from: OverrideYourGenetics on September 22, 2018, 06:03:05 AM

Hey Puru,

I've posted a timeline of your progress on my diary since someone claimed my recovery was slow and I wanted to compare it with yours. Thank you for being an inspiration!

How recovered would you say you are at this point, vs. your pre-CLL abilities?

Wow thats a very thorough timeline. Thanks for posting!

I'd say I'm maybe 100% recovered as far as day-to day activity is concerned (I can walk for at least 7 miles in a day at a regular pre LL pace w.o getting that tired).

However athletically I'm more at about 60%. However thats because I don't run/train my legs as much as I should. Other LLers in my batch who had more time are close to 90-95%.

Purushrottam · « **Reply #261 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:42:44 AM »

Today is my one year anniversary of the LL surgery. It has been quite a journey.

goodlucktomylegs · « **Reply #262 on:** September 27, 2018, 09:58:00 AM »

Quote from: Purushrottam on September 27, 2018, 12:42:44 AM

Today is my one year anniversary of the LL surgery. It has been quite a journey.

And how do you feel?
Pain ,AGILITY,gait

Purushrottam · « **Reply #263 on:** October 13, 2018, 07:36:43 PM »

Quote from: goodlucktomylegs on September 27, 2018, 09:58:00 AM

And how do you feel?
Pain ,AGILITY,gait

Pain: 0
Gait: Completely normal when walking, Completely normal when jogging.
Agility: Really bad. While my strength and speed is getting back, I haven't been training my agility as much (ability to change directions quickly). When I was playing basketball, I was pitifully bad at defending.

Jubartt169 · « **Reply #264 on:** January 24, 2019, 11:40:59 PM »

Hey, im recently 17 years and 1,68, the same height you had.

Nowadays, can you run, jump without problems ?

Do you feel any pain in ramdom moments ?

You know, im a little worried about this surgery, you know.. eventually have some problems and can never use your legs as before.

And how is it going your relationship with girls ? did you become more looked by ?

im too curious man, i would like to have an answer

MichaelJose · « **Reply #265 on:** January 30, 2019, 06:25:26 PM »

This diary is honestly fantastic. I am exactly the same height as you. You are really making me want to do this! Ahah

Purushrottam · « **Reply #266 on:** February 03, 2019, 07:06:16 AM »

Quote from: Jubartt169 on January 24, 2019, 11:40:59 PM

Hey, im recently 17 years and 1,68, the same height you had.

Nowadays, can you run, jump without problems ?

Do you feel any pain in ramdom moments ?

You know, im a little worried about this surgery, you know.. eventually have some problems and can never use your legs as before.

And how is it going your relationship with girls ? did you become more looked by ?

im too curious man, i would like to have an answer

Hello!

I do everything I used to do before, but maybe a bit slower. I have no trouble running and jumping (but at a lower jump distance and speed). No pain whatsoever.

As far as dating goes, its way different. I've been asked out a few times. This never happened before. I definitely feel more confident with dating (but I am also a lot more muscular now ... 15% bf @ 170 lbs). I used to be like 24% bf before LL (@160 lbs).

Purushrottam · « **Reply #267 on:** February 03, 2019, 07:07:01 AM »

Quote from: MichaelJose on January 30, 2019, 06:25:26 PM

This diary is honestly fantastic. I am exactly the same height as you. You are really making me want to do this! Ahah

I'm glad to hear you think so! Whats your plan?

cool · « **Reply #268 on:** February 03, 2019, 07:20:38 AM »

Are you going to tell a future spouse about this?

Purushrottam · « **Reply #269 on:** February 05, 2019, 06:43:51 AM »

Quote from: cool on February 03, 2019, 07:20:38 AM

Are you going to tell a future spouse about this?

I don't know. Probably not.

Purushrottam · « **Reply #270 on:** February 05, 2019, 06:58:38 AM »

Mini Update:

By the end of February I will be 'financially recovered' from this procedure (meaning my assets would be equal to what they were prior to LL). My loan amount is still outstanding, but I make more per month at my new job than what I made at my old job + monthly loan installments. Basically, my cash flow is higher than it was prior to LL.

Now this is my gold standard for physical recovery to pre LL levels:

8.5 minute mile nonstop (I think this is 7 mph),
6 minute mile in 1 minute increments when doing HIIT (1 minute bursts at 9mph with 30 second breaks in between),
run 12 mph for at least 30 seconds,
run 3 miles in under 30 minutes,
squat 160 ish, deadlift 160 ish,
90 jump squats in 3 sets.

This is where I'm at now:

12 minute mile nonstop (5 mph),
10 minute mile in 2 minute increments when doing HIIT (2 minute bursts at 6 mph with 30 second breaks in between),
run 9 mph for at least 60 seconds,
haven't attempted long distance running.. I will attempt it when the weather gets better
squat 65 lbs ish (4 sets of 5 reps), deadlift 85 lbs (4 x 10) .. don't know my max, haven't attempted it.
haven't attempted jump squats but I can do 40 body weight squats in 4 sets.

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My next milestones are:
1) Full financial recovery, which means my net assets reach a level they would have been if I had continued saving and not gotten LL surgery. So basically for me to be financially as if I never had LL at all.

2) Full physical recovery ... same thing. To be physically as if I never had LL at all.

Dirona · « **Reply #271 on:** February 05, 2019, 11:57:31 AM »

Awesome Puru..Great progress..You have reached a break-even point..Can I PM you to get your email by any chance?

Mariobro · « **Reply #272 on:** February 05, 2019, 03:11:53 PM »

Hi Puru. Are you planning to have the rods removed any time soon?

Purushrottam · « **Reply #273 on:** February 06, 2019, 02:16:15 AM »

Quote from: Realistic on February 05, 2019, 11:57:31 AM

Awesome Puru..Great progress..You have reached a break-even point..Can I PM you to get your email by any chance?

Thanks! Sorry I don’t give my contact for anonymity purposes.

Quote from: Mariobro on February 05, 2019, 03:11:53 PM

Hi Puru. Are you planning to have the rods removed any time soon?

I get my raise, bonus, and tax return by the end of February. After that I will have a better picture of my cash flow. Then I will take a loan and get it done.

Purushrottam · « **Reply #274 on:** February 12, 2019, 04:19:27 AM »

Update

So I got a bit of a raise. My income is now a hair over $200k.

That took me a good while to digest. I never in my wildest dreams thought I’d be earning that much. This totally accelerates the timeline for my financial recovery...

I’m definitely aiming at paying off the loans by the end of this year. Getting my rods removed as soon as I get my tax rebate.

Brb6ftTall · « **Reply #275 on:** February 14, 2019, 11:12:37 PM »

Quote from: Purushrottam on February 12, 2019, 04:19:27 AM

Update

So I got a bit of a raise. My income is now a hair over $200k.

That took me a good while to digest. I never in my wildest dreams thought I’d be earning that much. This totally accelerates the timeline for my financial recovery...

I’m definitely aiming at paying off the loans by the end of this year. Getting my rods removed as soon as I get my tax rebate.

You’ll probably get faster after the rods are removed. Running feels a lot smoother. Leg strength stayed the same though lol, that’ll definitely take a while to get back. Great diary btw!

Purushrottam · « **Reply #276 on:** February 15, 2019, 05:39:24 AM »

Quote from: Brb6ftTall on February 14, 2019, 11:12:37 PM

You’ll probably get faster after the rods are removed. Running feels a lot smoother. Leg strength stayed the same though lol, that’ll definitely take a while to get back. Great diary btw!

Thank you, Brb! I read in your diary that you had your rods removed in Aug 2018. How long was it after that when you could start running/lifting weights/etc after the nail removal? I've been hitting the gym religiously for the past few months and I don't want this to stop my flow.

Brb6ftTall · « **Reply #277 on:** February 15, 2019, 05:57:14 PM »

It was probably a month before I went back to the gym after rod removal. I might’ve been able to go back sooner though, maybe 2 or 3 weeks after, but life kept getting in the way. It did mess up my “flow” a bit, but after a week or so I was right back into my previous numbers. Unfortunately they haven’t progressed the way they should’ve since then though.

Of course the #1 limiting factor in getting back to my pre-LL strength and conditioning is just that.. I don’t have the time anymore, lol. And i’m Sure you’ve already realized this yourself too. It was easy to maintain a standard before a big surgery, but now it takes work to get it all back and I just haven’t been able to put that kind of work in yet.

I’m interested in your numbers though, so please keep updating if you can. After rod removal I don’t really think about LL anymore but I still lurk from time to time like this lol.

Purushrottam · « **Reply #278 on:** February 16, 2019, 08:53:18 PM »

Quote from: Brb6ftTall on February 15, 2019, 05:57:14 PM

It was probably a month before I went back to the gym after rod removal. I might’ve been able to go back sooner though, maybe 2 or 3 weeks after, but life kept getting in the way. It did mess up my “flow” a bit, but after a week or so I was right back into my previous numbers. Unfortunately they haven’t progressed the way they should’ve since then though.

Of course the #1 limiting factor in getting back to my pre-LL strength and conditioning is just that.. I don’t have the time anymore, lol. And i’m Sure you’ve already realized this yourself too. It was easy to maintain a standard before a big surgery, but now it takes work to get it all back and I just haven’t been able to put that kind of work in yet.

I’m interested in your numbers though, so please keep updating if you can. After rod removal I don’t really think about LL anymore but I still lurk from time to time like this lol.

Wow a month is a long time. But I'd rather get this over with sooner than later.

I will keep updating this thread with numbers. Its definitely hard to maintain a rigorous workout schedule when you also have a full time job. I can't wait to see how my running gets after rod removal.

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