Topic: Femur lenghtening with Dr Betz 01.09.2017 (Read 9828 times)

amaar · « **on:** September 01, 2017, 07:51:50 PM »

Dear fellow forum members,
my operation with Dr. Betz will start next week.
Therefore I thought of writing a little diary.
I plan to stay one month in germany at his clinic, because the physiotherapists there are specialised in limb legnthening and I am very unflexible.

Here are some general informations about me:

sxx: male
Age:28
Height: 176cm
Target: 182cm
Wingpan: 178cm
Girlfriends height: 179cm
Flexibility: Very unflexible
Pain tolerance: Mel Gibson

2 Years ago I thought about limb lenghtening. I have a 6f 3,5 brother and a 5ft 10 sister. My father it 6ft 2.
Both of my parents are doctors. My father is a dermatologist and my mother an accident surgeon.
They have both there own clinic and there judgement has an important influence on my decission.
Due to prior experience in there field of work and the good reputation of german clinics, we decided that Germany would be the best option for such a complicated surgery.

We visited several clinics who offered limg leghtening. Dr. Baumgart and Dr. Betz were in the closer selection.

In our opinion Dr. Betz had following advantages:
The secretary office gave us better information, thus they where more symapthic.
Dr. Betz spend over 4 hours time with us and answered every question in detail.
Both doctors told us about the pros and cons of all nails, but the Betzbone has in our opinion several advantages over the Fitbone.
Dr. Betz as a good reputation in his country and it seems he is a luminary in his field.

Of course there are also some disadvantages with Dr. Betz.

Since I am not a very sportiv guy, I dont care about a lack in athleticism.
I also dont have extrem long legs but rather long arms.

With 182cm I would be slitly above the average of Western european male. Althoug the statistical surveys are quite old and I am sure the younger generation is already taller.

If anybody has some questions please be free to contact me.

Knik · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2017, 07:55:12 PM »

where you from ?

Knik · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2017, 08:05:03 PM »

Soon we will have 6'1 people with 6'7 gf on this forum

But I understand, it's hard to have taller girlfriend. And most of the time the family dislike it a lot. Also it's very very uncommon to have taller sister
Good luck anyway, Mel

amaar · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2017, 10:59:13 PM »

I come from Brussels.

My sister is 10 years younger. Could be due to better nutrition. I loved chocolate as a kid.
On the other hand, my sister and brother where a lot heavier when my mum gave birth to them.
And I came a bit early.

Since 2 years I could convince my gf for some reason to delay the meeting with her parents.

In there Family everybody except for the mother are giants.

So they will get to know me after the Operation.

FDR101 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2017, 11:07:59 PM »

Hello and good luck with your process

May I ask what advantedges you saw in the Bentzbone over Fitbone?

google42 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2017, 11:38:48 PM »

Quote from: amaar on September 01, 2017, 10:59:13 PM

I come from Brussels.

My sister is 10 years younger. Could be due to better nutrition. I loved chocolate as a kid.
On the other hand, my sister and brother where a lot heavier when my mum gave birth to them.
And I came a bit early.

Since 2 years I could convince my gf for some reason to delay the meeting with her parents.
In there Family everybody except for the mother are giants.

So they will get to know me after the Operation.

Lol, I loved chocolate too as a kid and I still do. I doubt it stunted our growth though.

LLSouthAmerica · « **Reply #6 on:** September 02, 2017, 03:26:29 AM »

And even premature kids tend to catch up with their peers at one point in life. It is hilarious how you included your girlfriend height hahahahha

Albizzia nails like Gnail and Betzbone really do have advantages. Weightbearing changes a lot in quality of life during lengthening, faster recovery and prevents muscle atrophy. However, keep in mind that they do not have a backwards function and this is a problem in cases of non unions. In any case, the vast majority of healthy young males have a proper consolidation and do not require such a function so long as they lengthen in a safe manner and to a conservative goal no more than 7 cm.

Also, the sweet sweet pain, all my LL classmates felt... you are in for a treat. Don't worry, you will forget the pain and even miss it a little. Funny thing is the human mind

Bon courage!

Knik · « **Reply #7 on:** September 02, 2017, 08:06:57 AM »

Un Wallon ! Après les familles grandes c'est pas courant. Au début je pensais que 1m90 c'était grand avant de voir que même les clubs de basket et de volley de villes perdues (Dunkerque, Lorient, etc) arrivent à trouver des joueurs de 2m05/10. Je me demande toujours comment ils font car en France je n'ai jamais vu de joueurs de cette hauteur
exemple : http://www.rennesvolley35.fr/pros/effectif-et-staff / https://www.dunkerque-basket.com/en-savoir-plus/joueuses-56236

Enfin sinon c'est toujours drôle que des gens qui te mettent au mieux 10 cm se permettent de faire des remarques. Je sais pas combien ils font dans la famille de ta copine mais j'imagine qu'ils ne font pas non plus 1m95 donc leur seule légitimité à te critiquer sur ce point est que ta copine est plus grande

amaar · « **Reply #8 on:** September 02, 2017, 10:34:51 AM »

Advantages of betzbone over fitbone:

Less technology:
Due to the fact that the betzbone is lengthening mechanically via clicking, and the fitbone has an internal motor, the probability of malfunction is higher when more technology is involved.

Weight bearing and quick recovery:
The betzbone is weight bearing, so I can immediately walk on crutches and after the lengthening I can walk normal. (I saw patients walking on crutches one day after their surgery)

I can operate both of my femurs at once:
Doing one leg after the other and walking with shoe implants is complicated, the duration of lengthening is longer and it leads to an unsecure gait pattern.

The fact that the Betzbone has more lengthening capacity does not affect me.

Disadvantages:

Clicking:
The biggest disadvantage is the clicking for me. I am not very flexible, and bending my legs to a certain angle a couple of times every day do gain my weight frightens the hell out of me.
The doctor showed me the exact angle and it was pretty easy but that was with a healthy leg.
I talked to some other patients and one woman told me, that by accident she clicked one time and it’s very easy. I assume she is very flexible and after 5 cm it won’t be that easy.
I read in a forum that there are rumors that some patients had to click in anesthesia, because the pain was to strong.
I confronted the doctor and his mate during our session with this topic. And they told me that these persons don’t do their physio.
According to Dr. Betz 30 percent of the lengthening process has to do with the operation. The rest is the physiotherapy and how you do your exercises.
He told me that he had some patients, who took every think very serious and they did not had any pain at all. And some spoiled rich Arabic people think every think goes after the operation for it self.
He also told me that woman can deal better with the pain.

Location:
The Betz institute might be more near to my home but the location of the ZEM institute of Baumgart is amazing. Direct in munich, it has a lot of variety.
Where the clinic of Betz is literally in no mans land.

promitim · « **Reply #9 on:** September 02, 2017, 12:04:41 PM »

Hello,
What is the cost of sursery?
What kind of betzbone do you use?
Best regards.

amaar · « **Reply #10 on:** September 02, 2017, 01:05:36 PM »

The cost of the surgery is almost 50.000 €
The first 4 days stay are included.

I will pay 140 euro for accomodation and pysiotherapie for one month extra.

The cost for my first appointment and xrays etc... were 400 euro with Dr Betz,

and with Dr. Baumgart 1000 euro.

He showed me 5 different kinds of nails.
But only one kind of Betzbone. My consultation was on the 02.15.2017. They talked about upgrading the Betzbone. I will ask what the current situtation is.

Best regards

Cloudo · « **Reply #11 on:** September 02, 2017, 02:05:43 PM »

Good luck with the surgery

But I don't understand why you are doing this surgery for your girlfriend's family? I mean you are 28, if your girlfriend is close to your age then she probably passed the age where girls judge guys by their looks, I am sure she accepts you for who you are, why do the surgery then? If you said you want to do it because you like to be tall and it's your dream, then I would understand. But for your girlfriend's family? Really? Anyway, good luck

amaar · « **Reply #12 on:** September 02, 2017, 02:55:05 PM »

Thank you Cloudo,

you are right. My Gf is deeply in love with me and accepts me the way I am. Same goes for me.

She thinks of me like I am a greek god.

I do the sugery because I feel my self umcomfortable with my height.
Yesterday I used the subway and I wore lifts with 2 Inches. I use the lifts rarley. Most of the time at family events or parties.

In the subway I realised how comfortable I fell. also most of the People were pretty short.
In the environment I work, People are way taller.
I deal with a lot of managers and good situated People.

Sometimes I feel I am just ouf of place and People dont take me serious.

amaar · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2017, 05:59:02 PM »

Hey fellow Forum members.

I had my operation on Wednesday the 06.09.17
the operation was going very well. I had no pain at all.
Even till now no pain. I did not need to take all my painkillers.

The operation was starting at 8:30 in the morning. During the evening Dr. Betz and a physiotherapist helped me to do my first steps.
And guess what. I fainted haha.
They tried it again and I fainted again for a few seconds.
I was dreaming and in my dreams I was talking with my mother in the past about doing limb lengthening.
As soon as I opened my eyes I saw Dr. Betz and I thought: "oh I already did it there is no way back.

I wanted to try a third time to walk but Dr. Betz said my circulation is down.

So I stayed in bed and slept till morning.
next morning, I got a massage which decreased the tension in my legs and after my breakfast two physiotherapists did work with me.
They were very astonished how flexible i could bend my knees and move my legs.
I tried to sit down and I felt again a bit dizzy so they put me into bed.
in the late afternoon Dr Betz and the other physiotherapist came and he told me I Need to start to walk. bed exercise is not enough.
So they took me in their arms and I walked with them without feeling dizzy anymore.

Dr. Betz told me to sit on the cardio bike. Then I used it 20 minutes. at the beginning, it felt a bit weared to bent my legs but after a while it worked out perfectly.
the Dr was so happy and filmed me and send a Video to my parents. He told me to stop and not over do it otherwise I might have difficulties to sleep.
After dinner I went to toilet by using the crunches for the first time.
Before I had to use a bottle to urinate in. fortunately only my height is small

After brushing my teeth I went for a walk around the clinic with crunches. I set on a chair and made some stretching exercise and then I walked back to my bed.

Since a long time I did not sleep so good. I used to have sleeping Problems due to my work. but my legs felt relax and I did not move around.

Today in the morning I got my breakfast and the massage woman came to massage my legs.
Before I was walking with the crunches and now I walked to the balkony after another toilette trip.
I am sitting here relaxed while tipping on the Laptop and enjoing the fresh air. By accident I did already some clicks but Dr. Betz told me to start the clicks after the 5th day I think.

Now I walked with the physiotherapist to another place. She can’t believe how fast I recovered. and that I don’t have any pain.

She explained to me how to get out of my bed, and some other stretching exercises. I told her that I find alone the way to my room. While I was walking, I found my mother and together we were heading to Dr. Betz office. We did not find him so we went to the cafeteria.
We walked back to my room and waited for him. He explained some things about the operation and was happy with the results.
He told me that it does not happen that often that patients faint. But I had the biggest nail (13mm) with an increase possibility of 13cm in my legs. Now I am laying in my bed and I think of doing some stretching exercises.

I keep u updated
08-09-17

promitim · « **Reply #14 on:** September 09, 2017, 12:22:06 PM »

Hi,
Do you stay in hospital for 4 days after surgery?
How many centimeters do you gain after surgery? ( 1 cm ? )
Is it necessary to use wheelchair when moving around?

Thank you.

deniscef · « **Reply #15 on:** September 09, 2017, 04:10:46 PM »

How much this surgery cost to you with all expenses ?

LAGrowin · « **Reply #16 on:** September 09, 2017, 04:47:54 PM »

Wishing you well Amaar! Happy to hear that you are in your way to your new height. All the best in your recovery. Please keep us posted. Waiting to hear more details and you progress.

Hopefully it's over and a success before you know it.

amaar · « **Reply #17 on:** September 09, 2017, 09:56:03 PM »

hi fellow members,
Thank you for your support.

I am now 0,4cm higher without doing any clicking.

U must stay a minimum of 4 nights in the hospital.
But as I understood Dr Betz charges the same price if u stay for two weeks.

Till now I spend around 50.000 euro all included.
after two weeks, I will stay another two weeks at Elkes place.
The food is very delicious for German circumstances. The nurses are very friendly and bring whatever you need. Wifi is also very fast.

With me there is another Betz Patient from Sri Lanka who wants to ad 8cm to his current 162cm height.
he had his operation 3 days earlier then me and both of us did not need any wheelchair.

Today I went to a hair salon across the hospital. I got a fresh haircut and they shaved my beard. It was a nice experience. But I have problems to sit down when the chairs are too low.

I also went for an hour on the cardio machine to help my circulation.
I cut the painkillers now. Since I am not used to them and they influence my circulation.
I will do now some stretching exercises while watching a movie.
Talk to u soon.

amaar · « **Reply #18 on:** September 10, 2017, 11:40:26 AM »

Hi guys,
We have the 10.09.17.
4th Day after operation.

I took for the first time after the Operation a shower. I renewed all the bandages and the nurses gave me fresh socks. It felt good to put warm water on my legs.

While I was going for a walk and a short cardio workout, Dr. Betz past by me.
Even on Sunday he is visiting his patients.
He showed me how to click and we did 4 clicks with every leg and It did not hurt at all. He also gave me a clicking list and explained in detail all variations of clicking.

It is really easy to do the clicks. Hopefully it will be also easy when I gain some inches.

I am so happy I will take a short nap now. And try do to some cardio and some stretching later.

Wish you guys all the best

amaar · « **Reply #19 on:** September 16, 2017, 03:14:48 AM »

Hi guys,
I am able to walk without crunches now.
But to perfect my walking style, I use them on any occasion.
Before the lengthening process I used to stoop, walked with short steps and my feet where not straight. I see this as a chance to get rid of my wrong walking habits

I am taking some pain killers on a low dose. Since my left tight is hurting sometimes. Especially when I use the bike. I prefer to climb the stairs now. And focus more on stretching. One the 6th and 7th day I did 20 clicks. but I reduced it now to 15, to give my body the chance to keep up with the stretching.

A Duck ass is the last thing I want to have.
On Wednesday, I will leave the hospital to stay at Elkes house.

Cant wait to see some more LL patients and all the tips from the physiotherapists. After all it was a great experience till now. I will have much more respect for People on crunches.

My initial goal was a 6 cm height increase. But if the clicking and stretching phase will be without complication, I will go for a minimum of 8cm.

16.09.2017

amaar · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2017, 03:17:45 PM »

Hey guys,
We have the 18.09.2017
and I will stay two more nights in the hospital, before I Go to Elke.
I can go now the stairs up and down smooth like a cat. But I have to train my ass muscles. If I walk without crunches, it looks like a retarded penguin. Haha

Since the Dr. and the physiotherapists told me not to do too much exercise, I will focus more on stretching.
I also got yesterday a friendly neighbor, who did his operation today at 9:40.
He feels all right and sleeps now. He did also femur.

Till now this Op was absolutely worth it. I am curious how the situation will be after one month. We had to adjust the crunches, cuz I growth already a bit. Hehe
Some friends of mine I will see during Silvester time again. Cant wait if they see me 8 cm taller. And usually I don’t wear elevator shoes in front of them. If I have some shoes which push me another 4 cm. Then it will be really funny haha.

And of course I am curious to see all the other patients at Elkes house.

amaar · « **Reply #21 on:** September 29, 2017, 09:12:14 AM »

Hello Fellow Forum Members.

Sry that I cannot respond so quickly to all the private messages.

We have the 29.09.2017 I am now 2cm taller.
Yesterday my father picked me up from Elkes house and we drove home.
I feel good. Pain level is still low. But my left knee hurts if I encumber it while walking. Which limits my walking routine.

But all in all it was a great experience. Elke is a very kind Lady with a warm hearth. She treated me and the other 3 patients like her own sons.
She and her daughter drove us two the physiotherapists, cleaned our rooms, buy our food etc…
Her cooking skills are astonishing. She prepared 4 meals a day, The house is always very clean and every think is timed. She helps where she can.

I came along very well with the other patients. They gave me tips on any occasion. One patient gifted me a cream called Retterspitz, to calm down my legs at night.
The other one showed me how to massage the legs if there is any pressure and he showed me that a hot water bottle helps. We were walking together, watching movies, talking about our future.
They showed me how to bend my legs with a pillow to the side when I want to change the sleeping position etc…

And the highlight is a physiotherapist called Peter.
Which I will go in detail on my next post.

amaar · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2017, 02:40:26 AM »

Hey guys,

we have the 30.09.17
Last night I had some back pain.
In the evening I walked 2 km on crunches and a bad posture to prevent my left knee on too much pressure. I assume this was the reason.
But my awesome mother gave me a back massage and some medicine cream and the pain went away immediately.

Now I wanted to talk about my physiotherapy experience with peter:

I RECOMMEND EVERYBODY WHO DID INTERNAL LIMB LENGHENING TO WORK WITH PETER!!!

Let us first talk about the statistics.
I guess there are many good doctors out there like Dr. Betz. But nobody had operated on more patients then him. Peter worked with Dr Betz for over 12 years.
Therefore, he has a lot of experience which you need with physio training.

A beginning Physiotherapist has only his education in his hand and starts basically with zero.
With each patient, he gets more experienced. If more patients he has with the same symptoms, it is easier for him to help and judge the next patient.

I had some past physiotherapist experience. My last one was on February this year after I broke my scaphoid. My parents made sure that I became the best specialist. This person was the head physio for a Belgium soccer team. Also during the hospital stay you get 20 minutes physio a day and a lot of different opinions on how to walk etc…

Peter has his own philosophy which he can explain good. If you talk with him you immediately know that this guy knows what he is talking about.
The important thing is not the training itself. Every good physio knows several techniques to stretch the legs.
It is his judgment in which status the patient is and in which direction the patient will go.

Peter explained the limb lengthening process as a journey with each cm some think different can happen. For some patients you can tell after 2 cm if he will get a duck ass or spread legs etc…
He told me that there are good days and bad days. This is perfectly normal. With each added mm your body will find new ways to resist and fight it. And we have to stretch so our body can take the added height from somewhere. And we have to show our body how to walk properly. each body has his own way to find a way to reduce the resistance while walking.
I for example move my hips like a penguin if I walk without crunches. So, he told me to stand in front of a mirror and try to bend the legs without moving the hips.
Also to push the pelvis in front and walk straight etc..

But he also told me to overdue the knee bending while walking since I might get problems later with bending the knee because of my walking style right now.
But this is some think the other physiotherapist in the hospital forbid me with the explanation that later this will be a routine and I will walk after the surgery with too much bending the knees.

I explained this to peter and he laughed and told me during his 12 years he had not one patient who did it too much.

Another patient those a hole rotation with his legs. Another technique from our body to reduce the resistant. But since this is not my problem I do not know what he said about this.

Anyway, his job is to look at the patient, look at his walking etc… and find out what will happen next and work against it to prevent it, before it might be too late.

Obviously, I decided not to stay during the hole lengthening period at Elkes. Since I have other duties, I will take physio training at home. But after every 2, 3 weeks I will go back to peter and spend a couple days with him to control my journey.
He is the only person who can help me in this way.

He really wants to help the patient and gives every think to get the best results. He is also strict if somebody does not do his homework but at the same time patient. I was always happy to visit him.
He was also so kind to let me come next time with my gf to teach her the basic thinks, so she can perform the physio with me.

amaar · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2017, 03:20:40 AM »

Hi guys.
I try to upload some pictures but it following message i get as a response:
The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file and/or contact an administrator

any sugestions?

Android · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2017, 06:54:12 PM »

Quote from: amaar on October 14, 2017, 03:20:40 AM

Hi guys.
I try to upload some pictures but it following message i get as a response:
The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file and/or contact an administrator

any sugestions?

Use Imgur:
https://imgur.com

Here's the official tutorial, but below is the gist.

Click on the green button at top left ("New Post"), select images, upload, and share us the link. You can add multiple images at one time to create an album, rearrange order, add captions if you want. By default the images can only be seen by those you share the link with.

Flannel · « **Reply #25 on:** October 15, 2017, 05:24:58 PM »

Great post amaar, good luck and keep the updates coming!

myloginacct · « **Reply #26 on:** November 10, 2017, 11:27:27 PM »

How have you been doing?

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