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[rami]

Is there any external method that can be hidden under your pants without being obvious and clear to anyone? (other than Dr. Salameh as his external are quite expensive compared to other externals).

[Chris]

"Pitkar" monorails fit under regular pants when used for tibia lengthening.
In case the overhanging pins are too long after surgery, the ends can easily be sawed off afterwards.
Should be the same for monorails from "Orthofix", but I only have experience with those Pitkar ones.

Warning: Remember to do LON or LATN only when choosing monorail fixateurs!

[rami]

How much does the "Pitkar" monorails cost? and who are the doctors using them? and are they full weight bearing like Ilizarov?

[Chris]

How much does the "Pitkar" monorails cost? and who are the doctors using them? and are they full weight bearing like Ilizarov?

Pitkar is mostly used in India and Russia. Approx. 750 EUR per monorail. It's hard say, because every single component has to be bought separately and there are also different ones.
Orthofix is an American company and is more expensive.

Yes, my monorails were fully weight-bearing. My weight was ~60kg. After 4 weeks, I had 3-4mm pin bending, but this also happens with Ilizarov fixators.

[rami]

Full weight bearing and can be hidden under cloths?

How much length did you increase? cost? and doctor?

[Chris]

Full weight bearing and can be hidden under cloths?

How much length did you increase? cost? and doctor?

I was in India and they messed up my left leg, don't go there. Sorry, no further info for your own safety
Go to Russia, there you can have monorail LON for 10-15k, depending on the clinic/doctor.

[rami]

Well i am reading your diary, and saw these pictures: https://postimg.org/image/3y0x8tynr/  and i am sorry for your bad experience.
How did you hide these monorail under your pants, they are still big to be hidden, more like Dr. Milorad Mitkovic externals.

Can you recommend any doctors in Russia, i am with any external that is full weight bearing and can be hidden under pants. I hope you can help.

[rami]

I was in India and they messed up my left leg, don't go there. Sorry, no further info for your own safety
Go to Russia, there you can have monorail LON for 10-15k, depending on the clinic/doctor.

Well i am reading your diary, and saw these pictures: https://postimg.org/image/3y0x8tynr/  and i am sorry for your bad experience.
How did you hide these monorail under your pants, they are still big to be hidden, more like Dr. Milorad Mitkovic externals.

Can you recommend any doctors in Russia, i am with any external that is full weight bearing and can be hidden under pants. I hope you can help.

[Body Builder]

I had orthofix monorails, maybe the best in the world, and they were not fully weight bearing, they cause easily malunions and they can't be hidden unless you wear xxxxxl trousers.
Generally speaking, monorails is a bad choice for mire than 5cm lengthening.
And no external fixator, even monorails, can be really hidden.

[onemorefoot]

Impossible at least you live with true smart people.

[rami]

Impossible at least you live with true smart people.

Where did you do your surgery? Price?
And what about Piktar monorails, Chris said they can be hidden under pants..
Also Salameh's Extrnal can be hidden, and thats one of his seling points if you check his website.

[Body Builder]

Where did you do your surgery? Price?
And what about Piktar monorails, Chris said they can be hidden under pants..
Also Salameh's Extrnal can be hidden, and thats one of his seling points if you check his website.

What we said again and again is that they can't, unless you wear a sack of potatoes as pants.
If you think that you'll wear 2 half but still huge frames like salamehfix and noone notice then do it and see it on your own.

[rami]

What we said again and again is that they can't, unless you wear a sack of potatoes as pants.
If you think that you'll wear 2 half but still huge frames like salamehfix and noone notice then do it and see it on your own.

Where did you do your external? and can you send any pictures?

[Body Builder]

I didn't wrote about my doctor because he is the only that does LL in my country so I want to keep that confidential.

As for pics, I had on the old forum, I won't plan to post them now 5 years after my surgery.

[Chris]

I will search my computer for some pictures showing my legs being covered with pants to keep my credibility.

[onemorefoot]

Where did you do your surgery? Price?
And what about Piktar monorails, Chris said they can be hidden under pants..
Also Salameh's Extrnal can be hidden, and thats one of his seling points if you check his website.

Salameh lies all the fking time, no external fixator can be hidden. If you are worried about what people Will say dont get pure external fixation, becuase you cant hide an elefant for a year.

[Chris]

I will search my computer for some pictures showing my legs being covered with pants to keep my credibility.

I couldn't find a photo showing both of my legs at the same time.
But here is a photo I made for my parents, because the monorail fixator was slowly destroying my pants at the area around the knee.
You can see the shining edges from the metal and even one of the sawed off pins which were left too long after surgery.
I think it looked quite decent.



The fixator on my right leg was a little more difficult to hide, because it was attached on the outside.
We had to modify my pants and tailor some elastic fabric to it.
Here is a picture of it:



After the modification, you could see that there was something on my right leg, but not what it was.
If the fixator had been on the inside of my right leg, it would have been invisible like my fixator on my left leg in the first picture.

I could hide my monorail fixators from Pitkar and you could do it even better if you insist on both fixators getting attached an the inside of your legs.
So stop questioning my credibility or I will stop contributing to this ungrateful community!






 

[Body Builder]

So you think that your fixators were hidden because you wore 3 numbers bigger buggy trousers with a hole?
So your pics prove exactly what I said, that no externals can be hidden.
And salamehfix is even bigger than monorails so even a moron could understand that it can'5 be hidden.

[Chris]

No! They were not buggy. It's regular fit.
The hole was from the fixator and the picture was taken for my parents because I needed new "tailored" pants with additional fabric under the knee.
It doesn't matter how big your stupid fixators were.
Mine from Pitkar could be hidden which makes it possible.
Stop denying facts only because you are not right!

Can we block posts from single users somehow?

[Body Builder]

No! They were not buggy. It's regular fit.
The hole was from the fixator and the picture was taken for my parents because I needed new "tailored" pants with additional fabric under the knee.
It doesn't matter how big your stupid fixators were.
Mine from Pitkar could be hidden which makes it possible.
Stop denying facts only because you are not right!

Can we block posts from single users somehow?

The thing that you can wear some trousers above the monorails does not mean it can be hidden stupid brat. Your pics prove it clearly.
If someone things that with this trousers noone would understand that you have two frames underneath then he could do the same. But for me that does not mean hidden but just covered.

And finally, orthofix is the biggest manufactures of monorails in the world. If you things that some pitkar crap or anything else that is being used in third world countries is superior in any aspect then your stupidity reaches new levels.

Anyway this starts to get boring. You posted some pics, if people think that this is called "hidden" then they could follow your example. They will see how hidden they are when people would look weird at their legs and start asking what they happened to them.

[rami]

No! They were not buggy. It's regular fit.
The hole was from the fixator and the picture was taken for my parents because I needed new "tailored" pants with additional fabric under the knee.
It doesn't matter how big your stupid fixators were.
Mine from Pitkar could be hidden which makes it possible.
Stop denying facts only because you are not right!

Can we block posts from single users somehow?

Hi Chris, your externals were from Pitkar and internal from Smith?

[LLSouthAmerica]

I think there are many models of external fixators and while the smallest ones can be covered with baggy pants, that is not the same as appearing normal. However, you gain the benefit of people not knowing that you have frames.

[Chris]

Balablablah

STFU

Hi Chris, your externals were from Pitkar and internal from Smith?

Yes, exactly

[rami]

What we said again and again is that they can't, unless you wear a sack of potatoes as pants.
If you think that you'll wear 2 half but still huge frames like salamehfix and noone notice then do it and see it on your own.

Slameh's Fixators are different, if you check this link: http://www.limblength-sldf.com/index.php?act=open&programid=16 you will notice that they can be hidden under pants and not necessarily baggy.