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[Mdream]

i think the old process was painful. The internal nail changed everthing. Also a good doctor that has been improving his cirurgical process for the last 2 decades is key to get a much less painful LL. In my opinion Rozbruch is the best one. I had my first conversation with him last year and I'm planning to do the surgery in august, but one leg at a time. Learning with 6FS diary helps a lot to understand steps that don't come up with the conversation with the doctor.

[0184946]

congrats and this might be invasive but how are you paying for the surgical fees out of pocket if you only work as a model? they get paid crap unless ur doing campaigns. Also do u think u'll be able to do runways after full recovery?

[6FeetSoon]

congrats and this might be invasive but how are you paying for the surgical fees out of pocket if you only work as a model? they get paid crap unless ur doing campaigns. Also do u think u'll be able to do runways after full recovery?

Haha your question is valid. The answer is i've always had family money. Modeling is just a fun gig with a lot of perks. And yes, there won't be any limits on the kinds of gigs i can do once this is over. 6'0 and 180 lbs is prototypical.

[yyes]

Congrats on your ll man. Wish you a great recovery.

If you don't mind me asking how much were Dr Rs fees and how much of that did your insurance end up covering?

[6FeetSoon]

Congrats on your ll man. Wish you a great recovery.

If you don't mind me asking how much were Dr Rs fees and how much of that did your insurance end up covering?

Won't know for a week or so, takes a bit for insurance to process everything.

Nothing really to report on day four other than i lengthened for the first time today. It's fairly routine and you don't feel it happening. Pain holding steady at 3/10.

[MOOZE]

Congrats on getting the surgery. All the best with recovery, i'll keep an eye on your journal. I'd considered both Dr Rozbruch and Dr Paley but Florida and New York are a looong way to travel from Sydney whereas i can get a direct flight straight to Seoul for Dr Lee.

[Mdream]

Hey 6FS

How's your lengthening going? Is everything all right?
Hope you could pass through the first week intact!

[6FeetSoon]

Hey 6FS

How's your lengthening going? Is everything all right?
Hope you could pass through the first week intact!

Yup, everything's going smoothly. Fairly simple routine of eat, stretch, lengthen, sleep and repeat. I'm off the painkillers now, at about 2/10 on the pain scale. P.S. There are some really great shows on tv.

[jopjop]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm curious about how you position yourself for taking a bath or shower. It seems like a risky situation when you don't have full use of your legs. Also, what about brushing your teeth and those daily grooming activities? Do you set up stool in front of the vanity so you don't have to stand?

[google42]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm curious about how you position yourself for taking a bath or shower. It seems like a risky situation when you don't have full use of your legs. Also, what about brushing your teeth and those daily grooming activities? Do you set up stool in front of the vanity so you don't have to stand?

Yea I also wonder how people shower and take baths while lengthening.

[Mdream]

Thanks. I'm glad you are having a very very smooth and nice recovery.
I'm getting  much more confident about finally scheduling my surgery with Dr Rozbruch in August...

[6FeetSoon]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm curious about how you position yourself for taking a bath or shower. It seems like a risky situation when you don't have full use of your legs. Also, what about brushing your teeth and those daily grooming activities? Do you set up stool in front of the vanity so you don't have to stand?

I have a shower chair that i sit on. Getting from that to the walker is very easy. I do all the grooming on that chair in the shower (brushing teeth, etc).
Its basically taking a bath sitting down, its not overly complicated.

[Mdream]

Hey 6FS
I hope you are doing well
How's everything? pain whitout the painkillers stabilized? How was your worst moment so far? Pre-surgery anxiety or after surgery immobility and/or pain?

[Fnyc]

Thank you for logging this; I'm 5'8 myself and handsome enough to model but broke AF. I guess I have a few years to save up and think about the procedure

[6FeetSoon]

Hey 6FS
I hope you are doing well
How's everything? pain whitout the painkillers stabilized? How was your worst moment so far? Pre-surgery anxiety or after surgery immobility and/or pain?

Things are great. Honestly i can't even say what the worst moment was because it's all been so seamless at this point. Pain is between 1 and 2 out of 10 holding steady. Lengthening going well, will have a check up with Dr Rozbruch next Wednesday. Not much more to report, sometimes i forget i had the surgery and try to stand on my own before i catch myself haha. That's how little i feel it.

[Mdream]

That's awesome. thanks!

[doomsday]

Things are great. Honestly i can't even say what the worst moment was because it's all been so seamless at this point. Pain is between 1 and 2 out of 10 holding steady. Lengthening going well, will have a check up with Dr Rozbruch next Wednesday. Not much more to report, sometimes i forget i had the surgery and try to stand on my own before i catch myself haha. That's how little i feel it.

Are you using crutches or walker?

[6FeetSoon]

Are you using crutches or walker?

Walker and wheelchair

[doomsday]

try to keep your walker quite height to work on your posture. I had it too low and got a duck ass even though i was doing tibias.

[lon chaney]

hi everyone, this is my first post on the forum. notable milestone i guess..
6feet, if you're reading this, wsup, sorry for both private messaging you and writing here. i just don't know which of the two would be better for reaching you. will of course not bother with both messages and posts once i figure out which line of communication you prefer. just on a kind of high right now from learning that something has fallen into place that will make my lengthening a lot easier and more doable, although i've been on track to do it in january of 2018 for a few months now. so i couldn't resist posting and messaging u

so, i'm torn between rozbruch and paley. if rozbruch offers an essentially painless experience as you're saying, 6feet, and 8 cm is realistic for me, and i pass the psych eval and everything else... he's the one for me. the pain experienced by paley patients sounds seriously challenging.

as people have pointed out, no one's really journaled about rozbruch. he might be definitively the best ever (if you're lucky enough to not have to worry about money, which is a position i'm incredibly grateful, if undeserving lol, to be in)

anyway, i don't know the conventions of the forum cause i'm new, so feel free to   on me if i've fked up, but be goodhearted at your core and please try to help me understand the differences betweeen paley and rozbruch so that i can make the right call.

i'll hear from anyone i guess but to u, 6ft, hope you're doing well, your journal has been heartening

[Bander72]

hi everyone, this is my first post on the forum. notable milestone i guess..
6feet, if you're reading this, wsup, sorry for both private messaging you and writing here. i just don't know which of the two would be better for reaching you. will of course not bother with both messages and posts once i figure out which line of communication you prefer. just on a kind of high right now from learning that something has fallen into place that will make my lengthening a lot easier and more doable, although i've been on track to do it in january of 2018 for a few months now. so i couldn't resist posting and messaging u

so, i'm torn between rozbruch and paley. if rozbruch offers an essentially painless experience as you're saying, 6feet, and 8 cm is realistic for me, and i pass the psych eval and everything else... he's the one for me. the pain experienced by paley patients sounds seriously challenging.

as people have pointed out, no one's really journaled about rozbruch. he might be definitively the best ever (if you're lucky enough to not have to worry about money, which is a position i'm incredibly grateful, if undeserving lol, to be in)

anyway, i don't know the conventions of the forum cause i'm new, so feel free to crap on me if i've fked up, but be goodhearted at your core and please try to help me understand the differences betweeen paley and rozbruch so that i can make the right call.

i'll hear from anyone i guess but to u, 6ft, hope you're doing well, your journal has been heartening

There's no gaurantee with either that you will be pain free., low pain. We will all react differently from this surgery but a doctor's skill will play a part. You are more likely to have a smoother journey with paley or rozbruch than say a quack doctor from India. Although this user Morriset went to Sarin a Indian doctor who is infamous for bad results and he said he was able to gain 8 cm without big complicatons but his age was 19 which could be a reason he was able to lengthen pain free and quickly.

[Mdream]

Even if it's not totally pain free it's still much better than it used to be. Rozbruch is maybe the best one today. I think my biggest challenge now is to decide if I'll tell the truth to everyone one or not. I will do one leg at a time, so I'll bee irking while lengthening. For instance, If you are fat and have a stomach surgery you just tell the truth. My brother in law did it 10 years ago and in the beginning I honestly found it weird. Today he ishappy an everyone forgot about it. Why It should be different with LL?

[lon chaney]

You are more likely to have a smoother journey with paley or rozbruch than say a quack doctor from India.

totally, and that's why i'm certainly going with either paley or rozbruch. what i'm trying to get clarified now are the critical differences between them, which is ultimately the better call. i'm most curious about 6feet's saying the experience has been basically painless and if that's emblematic of most rozbruch patients, cause that's in stark contrast to paley's patients reaching level 10 pain, even if they come out of it eventually. additionally, paley doesn't require guichet-level pre-op physical therapy, but his in-house physical therapy team is a big part of it... whereas it seems like all rozbruch asks is that you do some stretches on your own. if rozbruch is basically pain-free and u don't have to do grueling physical therapy but come out like full weight bearing 4-5 months after surgery... that's incredible, and better than what paley offers, right? i'm a little incredulous that rozbruch is so ideal but if he's really that good, he's certainly my top choice. so yeah i'm curious what you all think about paley v rozbruch

[lon chaney]

If you are fat and have a stomach surgery you just tell the truth. My brother in law did it 10 years ago and in the beginning I honestly found it weird. Today he ishappy an everyone forgot about it. Why It should be different with LL?

right, i mean what's considered abnormal vs normal, that shifts over time, and in a kind of superficial, arbitrary way. sucks. but, you should just do whatever is safe and that you're comfortable with. i know it's easier said than done cause we're inculcated to follow social  norms. hopefully u have a good support system of family and friends. if that's the case, you needn't be worried about telling them. personally, i'd rather confine the news to my family, but i think that's great that people would be more forthcoming about it. i just want it to be a new part of me and move on in a sense, but there are tons of different approaches

[Mdream]

I have been talking to Rozbruch for more than a year now. He always mentioned that pain is not the problem. I also talked to one of his patients and the feedback is the same as 6fs: excellent doctor, very responsive and  low pain  especially if taking the pain killers as prescribed for 2to 4 weeks. I have the clearance to do the surgery but different from 6fs my insurance didn't approve it, so I'll pay it from my pocket.

[Mdream]

Problem is people will realize you are taller and will ask. When you let everyone know, you just relax...again as you said, easy to say it but hard to do it. Let's see...

[google42]

Problem is people will realize you are taller and will ask. When you let everyone know, you just relax...again as you said, easy to say it but hard to do it. Let's see...

Most people don't even know this surgery exists so you can literally make any excuse.

[lon chaney]

I have been talking to Rozbruch for more than a year now.

have u had to wait because you've been saving up, or scheduling problems, or some other less concrete reason? y'all are convincing me that rozbruch is ultimately a cut above paley i guess, so i'm hoping to go with dr. r. going in for a consultation over the summer would allow me to have the surgery in january, right? he doesn't have a massive waiting list or anything like that?

and if anyone has anything to say, because i'm still floored by this, about why rozbruch is so painless and why he thinks, unlike paley, the physical therapy only need be some stretching on your own, i'd love to know. gonna ask rozbruch myself during consultation but interested in what y'all have to say.

[lon chaney]

Problem is people will realize you are taller and will ask. When you let everyone know, you just relax...again as you said, easy to say it but hard to do it.

this isn't much of a concern for me because i've been wearing 2-inch lifts and shoes with a bit of heel since i was 17 and a half––i'm 22 now. i still imagine some people will notice, in which case... idk, i'll say that i had really bad posture for a while and have been seeing a specialist who's helping me correct it. seems believable enough, lol.

also, ppl have talked about age... i'm 22, is that young enough so that i'm at an advantage? my only exercise is walking 10,000 steps a day, but i'm disciplined about it. and i think i'm generally healthy, had my annual physical in august and everything looked good.

[lon chaney]

damn, i'm just wondering where 6feet is. my worry is he said some setback and that's why he hasn't been active here for a few days

[6FeetSoon]

damn, i'm just wondering where 6feet is. my worry is he said some setback and that's why he hasn't been active here for a few days

lol calm your tits i'm right here. I just feel like posting less and less because this forum has become a breeding ground for trolling and pointless discussion. I was trying to have a serious thread to give everyone some insight on a doctor very few have done this with. Just seems like anything of value gets drowned out by the white noise.