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Hairloss and baldness
« on: March 08, 2014, 08:52:55 PM »

I have been shedding for a few years now.

My hairline has started to recede and almost all the males in my family have the male pattern baldness.

Anyone else face this issue?

I know you have two treatment for this but you must sacrifice things to use them.

propecia (fin) - fks up your dck,  erection , libido, brain everything
minoxidil - last couple of years then the effect wears off.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2014, 09:07:26 PM »

Been using La Roche Posay - Kerium Anti Hairloss Shampoon & Spray for a while. Seems to work for me.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2014, 11:17:40 PM »

Nothing you can do. But i'll let you in on a tip that will help you.... Hair system.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2014, 11:20:33 PM »

Shave your head and get buff. Mr Clean looks cool.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 12:24:44 AM »

Hey,

Since our personality differs so much, I'm not sure if I should even give you any advice. I don't normally consider the risk in detail like you do. I'm glad that you do because I have to pay for the consequences of my action.

Male pattern baldness also runs in my family. My dad has it as well as my cousins. I was determined to stop it when I was 19. Even though I just begin to lose a few strands of hair in front as well as feeling some burning sensation in my skull, I asked my doctor for propecia treatment. He prescribed proscar (same as propecia but one is covered by medical insurance). I was on it for 3 months. And I never had any hair problem after that.

Maybe during the treatment, I had sexual dysfunction. But after the 3 months, I had it back. But now I have moments of depressions but I'm not sure if they're related.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 03:49:35 AM »

There is always hair transplant as an option, only if you have enough hair in the donor site and not diffuse balding. Its a good idea to have multivitamins daily and have plenty of Omega 3. If Propecia doesn't work then you can go for a much stronger option called Dutasteride which, like Finisteride, is a alpha reductase blocker and may result in more hair growth. But has a higher possibility of unwanted side effects. Check this link out
http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/resources/hair-restoration-papers/dutasteride-vs-finasteride/
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 04:56:08 AM »

I watched in tv once , about a cancer survivor who became totally bald after chemo
 so they introduced to her a new technology , which is sewing hair into her scalp ' NOT hair extensions" .. the hair looks so natural so no one could tell if you've done this treatment.. but off course this hair will not grow..
and I assume since you are man I don't think you would be interesting a lot of changing your hair style from short to long and so on.. so this therapy may be good for you..
I don't remember the name of this technique though, but is something with nano..
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 06:36:35 AM »

And the suffering continues. 

May I suggest hair transplant? May cost you your femur lengthening but hair grows back just like natural hair.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 07:25:21 AM »

Hair transplant so far is the real deal to bring back your lost hair. Would cost under 20k.

Minoxidil will only prevent loss of what you have now.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 10:44:09 AM »

I did try finasteride 1.25 mg for a week. Started getting sides; no morning wood, watery ejaculation etc, so it quit right there. (but the fking thing stopped my hairloss completely)

I am NW1 now but still scared of the thought of becoming bald. I am going to try finasteride at much lower dose, if the sides come again i think i will go for minoxidil or just accept baldness.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 10:56:11 AM »


Some have even worse side effects from finasteride.

I did try finasteride 1.25 mg for a week. Started getting sides; no morning wood, watery ejaculation etc, so it quit right there. (but the f**king thing stopped my hairloss completely)

I am NW1 now but still scared of the thought of becoming bald. I am going to try finasteride at much lower dose, if the sides come again i think i will go for minoxidil or just accept baldness.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 10:58:48 AM »

Some have even worse side effects from finasteride.
I know, some people just accepts the sides and sacrifice their dck for hair.

I mean the water ejaculation means that the sperm count is low. You are really fking with your fertility and thats serious.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 11:06:15 AM »

It's also not cheap. Some people I know they buy the generic, and some buy the bigger dose pills and just split them into 4 I think.

I know, some people just accepts the sides and sacrifice their dck for hair.

I mean the water ejaculation means that the sperm count is low. You are really f**king with your fertility and thats serious.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2014, 12:52:25 PM »

i used to split Proscar in 1/8, You still get a dosage needed and reduces the sides immensly. But i stopped taking that posion, It fk's your hormonal levels. And the worst part is when you stop with sides as gyno and other things. And people have reported less hairloss when stopping finasteride.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2014, 07:50:22 PM »

How long does propecia have to be taken, and after the round should its effects last indefinitely?
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2014, 09:55:52 PM »

How long does propecia have to be taken, and after the round should its effects last indefinitely?

It has to be taken forever. If you stop, the shedding will start in matter of months and you will lose all the hair you maintained with propecia.

But this fking drug is impressive, i tell ya. I took it for a little over a week and fk me.. i tried to pull my hair with my hands. 0 hair fell out. I couldnt believe it so I pulled really rough, just like I would do on the hair on my backhead. 0 hair again.

Its amazing.
But it has a price: side effects.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 01:22:13 AM »

What are the side effects for you?
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 01:42:44 AM »

And does anyone know where best to buy propecia? Drugs are pretty cheap in India, so I might as well try to get some and try it out.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 10:07:19 AM »

Generic would be cheaper. Finasteride.
Just make sure you're buying the authentic one if you buy in India.

And does anyone know where best to buy propecia? Drugs are pretty cheap in India, so I might as well try to get some and try it out.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 07:34:38 PM »

What are the side effects for you?

watery ejaculation (low semen)
low libido
loss of morning erections
acne
testicle ache
brain fog
slight depression
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2014, 01:37:33 AM »

Even without depression as a direct side effect, I would be depressed having any of those.
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watery ejaculation (low semen)
low libido
loss of morning erections
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 02:48:25 AM »

watery ejaculation (low semen)
low libido
loss of morning erections
acne
testicle ache
brain fog
slight depression

Actually finisteride should decrease/prevent acne because of DHT inhibition. DHT triggers sebaceous glands to over produce sebum and therefore more prone to acne breakout. With less DHT circulating = less acne.
 
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2014, 10:15:51 PM »

Actually finisteride should decrease/prevent acne because of DHT inhibition. DHT triggers sebaceous glands to over produce sebum and therefore more prone to acne breakout. With less DHT circulating = less acne.
the acne occured because of the massive fluctation in hormons. I reckon it would cease if I continued using propecia.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2014, 04:08:50 PM »

I stopped using Finasteride. Don't start man i know what you are feeling.

What you are gonna experience is a MAJOR shed probably each 2 months which will make you question the product, but you continue 1 YEAR so you could see for yourself if it really was effectiv.

in that time you will experience less sensitivity on your dck, harder to get erections, chubby body, nipple burning sensation.  You are basically turning off dht and making yourself to a female. And it will fk up your hormonal levels. 

And all you gained was far less hair due to the shed then if you never went on the medication in the first place.

And it do not grow back. There is yet to be 1 picture of regrowth. Well it might work if you add minox but that will take the collagen? from your facial protection and make you prematurely age in your face.

But you can go on the finasteride maybe 4 months then stop because there have been reported less hair loss after quitting fin.
That worked for me.
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2014, 05:20:59 PM »

Has someone tried Hasci and Replicel?
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2014, 11:38:26 PM »

I did try finasteride 1.25 mg for a week. Started getting sides; no morning wood, watery ejaculation etc, so it quit right there. (but the f**king thing stopped my hairloss completely)

I am NW1 now but still scared of the thought of becoming bald. I am going to try finasteride at much lower dose, if the sides come again i think i will go for minoxidil or just accept baldness.

Kusop - You had the sides because the drug was so effective for you. I had exactly the same issue, totally stopped my shedding but got gyno, no morning wood and yellow come and pain in my balls when I came off it!

Also tried Avodart/Dut and RU58841 which seemed to be totally awesome, had no shedding or hair loss when washing it also but I got the sides even more severly so had to stop.

Avodart stops both types of DHT where as Propecia/fin stops just the 1 type:
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=14248

I found RU to be even better but the sides were more severe than with Propecia. There is now CB-03-01 which alledegdly is better than RU but without the related sides - I'm waiting to try this next...
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Re: Hairloss and baldness
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2014, 05:06:42 PM »

OK I know this is very old topic, but I found the video that I was talking about..  8)
 

I watched in tv once , about a cancer survivor who became totally bald after chemo
 so they introduced to her a new technology , which is sewing hair into her scalp ' NOT hair extensions" .. the hair looks so natural so no one could tell if you've done this treatment.. but off course this hair will not grow..
and I assume since you are man I don't think you would be interesting a lot of changing your hair style from short to long and so on.. so this therapy may be good for you..
I don't remember the name of this technique though, but is something with nano..


here it's..





I think this could be really good option for "men" ..
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2014, 10:02:47 PM »

stop trusting your doctors. they don't know f**king s**t.

they only sell you poison. they will never ever cure you. because they exist to make profit from your disease and suffering.

doctors curriculum was bought out by Rockefeller in the 1940's(around then)
John D. Rockefeller Jr. was the key figure behind monopolizing the American Medical establishment about 75 years ago.
the medical community exists to gang f**k you up the but. they will never ever help you. they only mask your symptoms they do not treat the cause.

male pattern baldness is a tin(sn) deficiency.

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work with animals was published in Kyoto, Japan in 1990 that indicates tin (Sn) deficiency stimulates the development of male pattern baldness. Rats fed tin at 17.0 ng/gm show poor growth, reduced feeding efficiency, hearing loss, and bilateral (male pattern) hair loss, while rats fed 1.99 mcg/gm were physiologically and anatomically normal. Tin, in fact, is a prevention factor for cancer. Also, a November 1991 US federal study shows that the lack of tin in the diet leads to impaired hearing for older men at any given age than in men of earlier generations.


without the cofactors Sn is useless. you need all 90 vitamins and minerals to function properly. anything you are deficient in WILL break down. the first thing to break down will be dependent on your individual genetics.
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2014, 10:09:09 PM »

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watery ejaculation (low semen)
low libido
loss of morning erections
acne
testicle ache
brain fog
slight depression

so totally not worth it. hair loss is 100 times better than these side effects. its your freakin dck gys! I repeat its your freaking dck !!!! lol

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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2014, 02:29:20 PM »

well without hair you dont even get to use your dck.

1. have hair and all the benefits but dont feel sexual intercourse.

2. feel sexual intercourse but never gets to use it with 6/10 and above.
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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2014, 02:37:39 PM »



^  Johnny sin strongly disagree with you 
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