Topic: 9 centimeters on tibias with Dr. Barinov, Volgograd-Russia (Read 417894 times)

Overdozer · « **Reply #775 on:** January 20, 2015, 10:46:35 AM »

Quote from: ItsMyLife on January 20, 2015, 08:06:07 AM

why do Russians usually do 5 cm or less at dr. bagirovs?

They do it because after 5 cm mark your feet usually go poof and you gain ballerina or it becomes worse. Most people don't have the will to work and stretch it out enough, so they'll be left with a severe ballerina foot case, which will require a cut (another surgery). Well and it's also overall safer, like the time you have to spend in external increases by 4 months if go from 5 to 7.5 as a general rule of thumb. Tibia-femur proportions also. Drs are just being safe so later on you couldn't say 'well fk wtf why did you let me lengthen so much'.

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7.5cm affected my balance, agility, and endurance permanently. Not much, but some.

Why? I mean, how? It doesn't make sense to me how your balance could be affected by having longer tibia bone. Or endurance. I guess your agility could be affected to some extent if you were unable to fix your ankle contracture...

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #776 on:** January 20, 2015, 11:32:03 AM »

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Why? I mean, how? It doesn't make sense to me how your balance could be affected by having longer tibia bone. Or endurance. I guess your agility could be affected to some extent if you were unable to fix your ankle contracture...

there are many reasons.

1 such reason is a lot of doctors don't secure the TOP AND BOTTOM of the fibula. this pulls the fibula in towards the tibia removing the gap.

the fibula supports 1/6 of your total body weight.

ItsMyLife · « **Reply #777 on:** January 20, 2015, 12:07:03 PM »

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on January 20, 2015, 10:27:44 AM

7.5cm affected my balance, agility, and endurance permanently. Not much, but some.

The more you do, the more it affects you. I don't think there really is a magic number. It's all a matter of degree.

what sports do u do??

would u feel that if u had trained harder u could have overcome and maybe be in a better shape than before?

ItsMyLife · « **Reply #778 on:** January 20, 2015, 12:08:06 PM »

my top and btm are fixated.

but the fibula does not form a straight line.. maybe a curve will form...

how bad is that?

I would think as long as the top and bottom don't move its fine?

goodlucktomylegs · « **Reply #779 on:** January 20, 2015, 02:35:54 PM »

Quote from: Uppland on January 20, 2015, 03:36:19 AM

Are you going with Guichet?

May be i will go with Guichet and do only6cm max for femur

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #780 on:** January 20, 2015, 03:22:27 PM »

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my top and btm are fixated.

but the fibula does not form a straight line.. maybe a curve will form...

how bad is that?

I would think as long as the top and bottom don't move its fine?

hmmmm I don't know. try to get a whole tibia lower leg x ray.
the fibula can probably be distorted and not be to detrimental (you will be fine I think from my research). but if possible always try to keep it as close to natural as possible. it will just result in a new biomechanic operation for your legs.

your main concern will be weight distributions when rotational movements in the lower legs are performed. (supination and pronation)(technically these terms are incorrect as they apply to the rotational movements at the elbow)(but the same movement in the fibula/tibia is what I am describing)

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Some tendons are contained within two major grooves at the distal, or bottom, end of the fibula (the lateral malleolus). These grooves redirect force on the joint, allowing less impact to be passed to the tendons and preventing damage. The way that the two bones in the lower leg are positioned means that the fibula does not reach up as far as the knee joint; rather, its lower portion, including the specialized groove and tendon mechanism, forms part of the ankle joint, allowing for stability in movement. This is due to the fibula's major role as an anchor point for the various muscles and ligaments of the leg and ankle.

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The existence of the fibula offers us more maneuverability than we would have with only one leg bone.

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The actions of the fibula allow accommodations in
plantarflexion and dorsiflexion to keep the joint stable. In addition, the
fibula is an important anchor for a number of muscles that act upon the foot
and that help to maintain the foot arches (notably the fibularis (peroneus)
longus). Finally, the fibula aids in the transmission of body weight (10% to
20% depending upon who you ask), through the leg.

RGKEY · « **Reply #781 on:** January 26, 2015, 04:26:42 PM »

here with my best friend of 13 years. And to think that before my LL we had pretty much the same height 164cms is crazy

Uppland · « **Reply #782 on:** January 26, 2015, 04:30:03 PM »

Looks really good, I can't tell if you had the operation at all by looking at you.

Disobedient · « **Reply #783 on:** January 26, 2015, 04:30:41 PM »

hiii rgkey,, it has been a while since I've read your last update.
so did she notice that?

goodlucktomylegs · « **Reply #784 on:** January 26, 2015, 05:12:06 PM »

Quote from: RGKEY on January 26, 2015, 04:26:42 PM

here with my best friend of 13 years. And to think that before my LL we had pretty much the same height 164cms is crazy

How could you solve your curl leg in the future?

KrP1 · « **Reply #785 on:** January 26, 2015, 05:23:37 PM »

good proportions, no one will notice that you did LL

GeTs · « **Reply #786 on:** January 26, 2015, 06:16:43 PM »

Quote from: KirP1 on January 26, 2015, 05:23:37 PM

good proportions, no one will notice that you did LL

I do if he takes out his hands from the pocket

RGKEY · « **Reply #787 on:** January 30, 2015, 12:29:34 PM »

Quote from: Disobedient on January 26, 2015, 04:30:41 PM

hiii rgkey,, it has been a while since I've read your last update.
so did she notice that?

no she did not:)

ItsMyLife · « **Reply #788 on:** January 30, 2015, 12:35:00 PM »

RGkey did your discomfort and pain decrease very much after you stop lengthening?

Did you find it OK to be in frames and doing your daily stuff?

And to your knowledge does dr barinov do nailing?

RGKEY · « **Reply #789 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:19:01 PM »

not very much but it decreased.
post lengthening it was better
you should contact them

RGKEY · « **Reply #790 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:25:10 PM »

some more pictures with my lifts.

KrP1 · « **Reply #791 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:34:26 PM »

How much lift are you wearing in those pictures? It seems like you could di that centimeters i your femurs

RGKEY · « **Reply #792 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:34:37 PM »

update: life is good, can't run or jump or do weights with legs, at this point i dont know if ill be able to recover 100% or even go back to my normal sport activities. I accepted this reality and it's all good, before surgery I knew this was a possibility so Im very happy I can at least walk and im taller and i can do other things in life, pretty much enough to get by. plus i like my look specially with lifts, i just love it! regardless of what others think. i still have stiffness it hasnt gone away. im still about 9 months post frames removal. Doctor said 1 year until I can slowly go back to sports, but honestly i doubt it lol, but will see still few months from that, i think at least one more year for running, but i will see, i will make a huge post the day I can run again and even better go back to martial arts, if that happens that will be a miracle hahaha! funny enough i can pretty much dance as i did before so that is kind of strange and awesome!!!! but i really can, very happy about that.

about femurs, i will never consider it untill i can go back to all my sport activities, so maybe never.

Uppland · « **Reply #793 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:39:10 PM »

Well you look great, you really do but the fact that you can't run is kind of scary -not gonna lie.

I think you should visit a doctor and get his opinion on why this is because you really should be able to, even though you lengthened a lot.

RGKEY · « **Reply #794 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:40:30 PM »

i measured about 176 with these lifts

RGKEY · « **Reply #795 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:42:32 PM »

i cant run or jump due to muscle stiffness, it just feels very uncomfortable and even pain on the front muscles. not the big muscles the small ones.

Uppland · « **Reply #796 on:** January 31, 2015, 12:48:38 PM »

Quote from: RGKEY on January 31, 2015, 12:42:32 PM

i cant run or jump due to muscle stiffness, it just feels very uncomfortable and even pain on the front muscles. not the big muscles the small ones.

I'm no doctor but that sounds like good news. If you're muscles are tight it is possible to loosen them up with stretching and stuff like that. Can't say why you have pain but a doctor will be able to tell, you might need to get some kind of treatment. Medium drink of Water got achilles lengthening I think and after that he was able to run around like he used to, who knows? In a couple of months that could be you. Find a good doctor that'll be able to help you. Just imagine -if your life is good now, it's nothing against when you get your agility back. Good luck man.

KrP1 · « **Reply #797 on:** January 31, 2015, 02:00:16 PM »

Quote from: Uppland on January 31, 2015, 12:48:38 PM

I'm no doctor but that sounds like good news. If you're muscles are tight it is possible to loosen them up with stretching and stuff like that. Can't say why you have pain but a doctor will be able to tell, you might need to get some kind of treatment. Medium drink of Water got achilles lengthening I think and after that he was able to run around like he used to, who knows? In a couple of months that could be you. Find a good doctor that'll be able to help you. Just imagine -if your life is good now, it's nothing against when you get your agility back. Good luck man.

I think MDOW did not get achiles lengthening. He get a surgery in the fascia for compartimental sindrome. Correct me if im wrong MDOW

ItsMyLife · « **Reply #798 on:** January 31, 2015, 03:04:25 PM »

loooking' good
i think 176 is ok for u, but ur arms are a little short at 176. i think if u value proportion u shd not do the femur surgery beyond a few centimetres.
i am doing 8 cm, so i might be in for quite abit. i;m going about my daily life pretty well at 4 cm mark now:)
thanks for being our inspiration that it is possible to avoid ballerina.

Medium Drink Of Water · « **Reply #799 on:** January 31, 2015, 09:35:53 PM »

It took me a long time to be able to do get back to normal. I had that tightness and soreness and fatigue too, with every step. So I don't think you're completely out of luck as long as you keep trying to push yourself. I don't think I was fully done with LL until two years after my first surgery, and I did 7.5. It could be 3, 4, or 5 years for you having done so much lengthening.

And to set the record straight in this thread, I never had achilles lengthening. Dr. Peng examined me and said I didn't need it. My right ankle was still kind of tight a year and a half after my first surgery and I thought I might need it, but he said to just keep stretching and it'd go away, and he was right.

Quote from: RGKEY on January 31, 2015, 12:42:32 PM

i cant run or jump due to muscle stiffness, it just feels very uncomfortable and even pain on the front muscles. not the big muscles the small ones.

I developed exertional compartment syndrome in my tibialis anterior muscles (the ones in the front of the lower leg) and got a fasciotomy for it. Our symptoms sound similar. Google that muscle and see if that's where the problem is. I think Dr. Paley performs fasciotomy on those muscles routinely when he performs tibial LL.

RGKEY · « **Reply #800 on:** February 01, 2015, 02:29:08 AM »

Interesting!

thank you mr water!

Uppland · « **Reply #801 on:** February 01, 2015, 09:40:43 AM »

This is a great diary, please keep updating us on your recovery RGKEY.

RGKEY · « **Reply #802 on:** February 04, 2015, 07:00:42 AM »

Quote from: Uppland on February 01, 2015, 09:40:43 AM

This is a great diary, please keep updating us on your recovery RGKEY.

i try my best:)

RGKEY · « **Reply #803 on:** February 04, 2015, 07:08:10 AM »

finally at my ideal height hahaha, here me at 180 with some boots 4cms platform and 8 cms lifts, i measured my self at 180-181, i asked my friend if he notice anything weird on my body besides my bowed leg and the fact that i look taller, he said i look completely normal but taller, well he is 6 feets and without shoes we wre pretty much the same height he was slightly taller, maybe 2 cms max, he didnt mention anything about my arms

ForcedPuberty · « **Reply #804 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:04:21 AM »

are you planning to fix your bowed leg?

what was the cause for this?

why wasn't it fixed when you had frames on?

Uppland · « **Reply #805 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:22:11 AM »

It's impressive how normal you look even though you've gained 9CM+12CM lifts.

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