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[Bigpoppapump]

Hi guys

Im consolidating with my frames on i have avoided the im rod as i dont want a further 2 procedures done

I only done 3cms and my bone growth is 'superb'

I was wondering if any of you consolidated with frames on and how long it took for you to be able to walk.

Can you eventually walk with the frames on? I will have the frames removed in UK when i fet home by doctors. Im still in hospital and aiming to fly home next week

[fujitora]

Hi

Yes, It is possible to walk without crutches or zimmer frame, with your frames on. However, you'd need to work hard for it. Phoenix (my LL senior here) was able to walk like that after 9 months from the initial surgery. He did 5.5 cms. The average consolidation time is 2 months per cm, so you should be off frames withn 6 months.

[Bigpoppapump]

Im planning on speeding up bone consolidation with a mixture of high calcium foods and also HGH so i think i can shade maybe 6-8 weeks off this waiting time

Thanks for your response

[Peaceout]

Wait,you seriously did 3 cm?

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

Im planning on speeding up bone consolidation with a mixture of high calcium foods and also HGH so i think i can shade maybe 6-8 weeks off this waiting time

Thanks for your response

Forget about HGH.

[Bigpoppapump]

Why would i forget about it? Its proven to consolidate bones quicker. Ive used it in the past as well for over a year

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

Why would i forget about it? Its proven to consolidate bones quicker. Ive used it in the past as well for over a year

If you want to screw your endocrine system with synthetic hormones then ye do whatever you want.

[Bigpoppapump]

Youre talking about years upon years of abuse. 4-5ius at night 3 times per week is not going to do any long term damage. Professional bodybuilders use huge amounts of these drugs thats why their endocrine systems are screwed up 12-15ius a week is completely different from 20-30ius daily like professional bodybuilders

If ingesting hormones is a bad idea then i suggest you stop eating then as pretty much everything you eat nowadays is full of hormones not fit for human consumption ie meats, milk, stuff packaged in the wrong stuff etc etc. long term thats going to be worse fir you than injecting a hormone short term that is naturally found in the human body

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

Youre talking about years upon years of abuse. 4-5ius at night 3 times per week is not going to do any long term damage. Professional bodybuilders use huge amounts of these drugs thats why their endocrine systems are screwed up 12-15ius a week is completely different from 20-30ius daily like professional bodybuilders

Golden rule of taking hormones, don't take them if you don't need to. Your body will do alright by itself.

If ingesting hormones is a bad idea then i suggest you stop eating then as pretty much everything you eat nowadays is full of hormones not fit for human consumption ie meats, milk, stuff packaged in the wrong stuff etc etc. long term thats going to be worse fir you than injecting a hormone short term that is naturally found in the human body

I love that kind of logic. Because why we should even try to reduce anything right? We are gonna die anyway.

Synthetic growth hormone naturally found in the human body.... K.
But as I said, stuff yourself with whatever you want. Shame that you can't exchange your thyroid with me, i would gladly take the healthy one.

[Iamready]

Not sure if 4iu every other day is going to show any results.

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

Not sure if 4iu every other day is going to show any results.

In the terms of healing? probably not.

But paying for that crap with a risk of screwing your endocrine system? Just eh..

[Bigpoppapump]

I generally stay away from eating junk food so im ok on that front, i also dont drink, smoke or engage in homosexual behaviour so between that and those things i should be safe enough.

The people who generally screw themselves up with these drugs use them in huge quantities, have bad habits elsewhere, drink alcohol, eat junk food, chew gum, take rec drugs.

4ius is a fair enough dose, children are usually given 1.5ius for growth deficiencies which imo is far far too low and is the reason they dont get the desired results fuelling the myth growth hormone doesnt help with height increase.

[Bigpoppapump]

On my days in between HGH i will likely take GABA mixed with glutamine before bed and upon waking up

[doomsday]

HAHAHAH I love those people on this forum that never did LL but somehow come up with ideas that you need 2 months per CM. There is literally no rule! Mr.Afzayesh got his frames off after 3 months and he did 5.5 cm. Ive done 5 cm and after 3 weeks of consolidation my doc told me that after 3 months I will be off the frames. Yes hgh is cool idea Dr Betz does it on a request so I dont see any problem about doing so. I terms of walking. After removing my half rings from ankles I started walking with crutches immediately. Its been 3 weeks and I can walk without them for few meters. I think that within a month  capable of ditching them. If you wanna make progress while you have frames on do it by little steps. If youre using crutches try to use them as little as you can, try to put more pressure on legs ale less pressure on arms and you will be fine. Be very careful try to do i places where u can hold somrthing so you dont fall in even of losing balance.

Take care

[Morissette]

There are thousands of elderly people in the US and Canada being given hgh every day to reverse the effects of aging there endocrine systems were fine before and were fine after I have personally done hgh before 5ius a day 5 days a week for 5 months and was fine aids patients are given high to boost there immune system. Most are prescribed 30 ius daily. Athletes use hgh to heal their injurys faster at 2-3 ius daily it would help immensely just make sure you're getting real stuff.

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

Yes hgh is cool idea Dr Betz does it on a request so I dont see any problem about doing so.

Let's remember that he is the person which thinks lengthening 12cm for one segment is alright.

There are thousands of elderly people in the US and Canada being given hgh every day to reverse the effects of aging there endocrine systems were fine before and were fine after I have personally done hgh before 5ius a day 5 days a week for 5 months and was fine aids patients are given high to boost there immune system. Most are prescribed 30 ius daily. Athletes use hgh to heal their injurys faster at 2-3 ius daily it would help immensely just make sure you're getting real stuff.

You forgot to add another link with "research" which by absolute accident is on website selling fake HGH.

[Morissette]

That was 1 link that I admit was garbage out of the 8-10 I had posted get over it

[Zaney]

I generally stay away from eating junk food so im ok on that front, i also dont drink, smoke or engage in homosxxual behaviour so between that and those things i should be safe enough.

Hey Bigpoppapum aka muscle bound meathead, lumping together eating junk food and smoking, with homosxxual behavior shows just how ridiculous you are and why no one should ever take advice from a dumbbell like you. Now go make a protein shake and lift some more weights, god knows you are not doing calculus or reading Aristotle is your spare time....

Morissette aka future cripple of Dr. Quack Sarin, go ahead and take all the HGH you want, nothing is going to fix the damage being done to your legs right now anyway, except a competent surgeon like Dr. Parihar 

[Morissette]

Hey muscle bound meathead, lumping together eating junk food and smoking, with homosxxual behavior shows just how ridiculous you are and why no one should ever take advice from a dumbbell like you. Now go make a protein shake and lift some more weights, god knows you are not doing calculus or reading Aristotle is your spare time....

Can someone ban this guy already?

[Penguinn]

Hey muscle bound meathead, lumping together eating junk food and smoking, with homosxxual behavior shows just how ridiculous you are and why no one should ever take advice from a dumbbell like you. Now go make a protein shake and lift some more weights, god knows you are not doing calculus or reading Aristotle is your spare time....

Hey, we found Mr. Sarcastic's new account.

[Auron]

5 cents as he is Mr. Sarcastic 

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

That was 1 link that I admit was garbage out of the 8-10 I had posted get over it

You were talking a lot of junk, that's just one example.
And as i have seen in your thread, it's not only my opinion.

Because trust me, if HGH would work as you and few others make it up to be, i would have been taking it already.

Hey, we found Mr. Sarcastic's new account.

Thought exactly the same lol.

[Morissette]

It terms of healing and body building it works miracles wether or not you wanna believe it is your choice but I already have first hand experience with it in the body building world and once I get home I will post about my recovery with it and hopefully that would be to open your mind a little. I will include videos

[Penguinn]

nothing is going to fix the damage being done to your legs right now anyway, except a competent surgeon like Dr. Parihar 

Seriously don't know what this guy's deal is but he's making Parihar look bad by associating him with his troll posts.

[Zaney]

It terms of healing and body building it works miracles wether or not you wanna believe it is your choice but I already have first hand experience with it in the body building world and once I get home I will post about my recovery with it and hopefully that would be to open your mind a little. I will include videos

Make sure you include your x-legs, club foot, early onset arthritis and more...All complications experienced by previous patients of your chosen Dr. Quack Sarin.

[YourSpaceBoyfriend]

It terms of healing and body building it works miracles wether or not you wanna believe it is your choice but I already have first hand experience with it in the body building world and once I get home I will post about my recovery with it and hopefully that would be to open your mind a little. I will include videos

I don't think someone who is deaf and thinks that he knows better than everyone else should really talk about opening someone mind.
But i guess 1 year of talks with one of the biggest specialists in the country wasn't enough.

Whatever, i'm not joining this discussion all over again.

[Bigpoppapump]

Hey Bigpoppapum aka muscle bound meathead, lumping together eating junk food and smoking, with homosxxual behavior shows just how ridiculous you are and why no one should ever take advice from a dumbbell like you. Now go make a protein shake and lift some more weights, god knows you are not doing calculus or reading Aristotle is your spare time....

Morissette aka future cripple of Dr. Quack Sarin, go ahead and take all the HGH you want, nothing is going to fix the damage being done to your legs right now anyway, except a competent surgeon like Dr. Parihar 

Not at all all 3 are extremely bad for your health, none of which i do. Look up 'gay life expectancy' (average age roughly 48-50)

Have you done this surgery or are you another fag keyboard warrior on here who talks but will never in a million years do it?

[Zaney]

Not at all all 3 are extremely bad for your health, none of which i do. Look up 'gay life expectancy' (average age roughly 48-50)

Have you done this surgery or are you another fag keyboard warrior on here who talks but will never in a million years do it?

Blade of Grass vs. Bigpoppapump in an IQ test. I think this post shows us who the winner would be.

Oh my God dude! It's so obvious that you enjoy having ripped, veiny, muscle bound men pinned up all over your wall, so you have to try and overcompensate by calling me a 'fag" or lumping together homosxxuals with junk food and cigarette smoke.

In addition to the pinned up men all over your wall, you are actually taking the time to research gay life expectancy, that is a dead giveaway you are suppressing homosxxual urges you don't want to be true of yourself 

[Bigpoppapump]

Blade of Grass vs. Bigpoppapump in an IQ test. I think this post shows us who the winner would be.

Oh my God dude! It's so obvious that you enjoy having ripped, veiny, muscle bound men pinned up all over your wall, so you have to try and overcompensate by calling me a 'fag" or lumping together homosxxuals with junk food and cigarette smoke.

If  in addition to the pinned up men all over your wall, you are actually taking the time to research gay life expectancy, that is a dead giveaway you are suppressing sxxual urges you don't want to be true of yourself 

So the answer is yes your a fag keyboard warrior who reads but will never go through with this surgery

Please mods ban this fag troll before we all catch online AIDS from his posts

Theres always one ck on every public web page and i think we have found him.

[Bander72]

The next big ll forum rivavlry since the doctor vs LLuser.

[The Kaiser]

The next big ll forum rivavlry since the doctor vs LLuser.

man wheres admin?!! its fking wrong to wish someone X-leg while he's still lengthening. its will effect his recovery am sure, we should motivate patients under process. Zaney went too far by insulting someone's mother to say to someone he already have an X-leg