Topic: Height neurosis and suicide (Read 7336 times)

aussieboy · « **Reply #31 on:** July 17, 2016, 07:14:49 AM »

I wasn't happy with many things.. my height, my face shape, my number of friends, my body and fitness, relationships. I have fixed most of them and I am happier than many years ago. I am now tall, have more friends, have a nice face shape, have been on dates that blew my mind and heads off, and I am happy and grateful for all that. The dude above is right - fix them one by one!
Heck, I even did some routines to become big below so I can show off in the locker room

Alu · « **Reply #32 on:** July 17, 2016, 07:43:06 AM »

Quote from: Ghostfish on July 17, 2016, 07:01:18 AM

Hi Alu

I think you might have some misunderstanding here. Chris is about 5'3 and CC is 5'7.5. So Chris can think that CC is at normal height. Am I wrong?

Wrong two people

Mivsta101 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 17, 2016, 09:35:25 AM »

I also disagree and im 19 and 5'5 ish. I probably had it alot worse than most of the people looking to get LL currently. I can bet that most got good or exceptional nutrition growing up and that wasnt the case for me. Its one thing to know you did the best to get as tall as you can and you couldnt do nothing about it. But its another thing to be malnourished and suffer from undernutrition, from something thats completely out of your control, which is what your parents could provide for you at a young age and when your a teen growing up. Personally i feel that not getting the best nutrition i could have in all my growing years stunted me because im 5'5 and that was with only feeding my body less than 1000 calories for years on end. I also do regret not getting a job by 16 but all in all my environment growing up was horrible. But, my brother, who easily ate everything in his path got to 5'8 or 5'10, he's maybe even 6 feet now. It really does show you how not having nutrition fked me over because i could guarantee i would have been 5'8+ if i had the nutrition, and i maybe wouldnt even be on this forum right now. So dude if i havent even considered killing myself in the least bit, you shouldnt either man.

YourSpaceBoyfriend · « **Reply #34 on:** July 17, 2016, 11:19:54 AM »

Idk you would need to eat only 1 apple per day to get your height stunted.
I had a friend that was eating almost nothing, smoking etc and he is now 6'3 so well...

Guilt · « **Reply #35 on:** July 22, 2020, 10:45:09 PM »

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 17, 2016, 11:19:54 AM

Idk you would need to eat only 1 apple per day to get your height stunted.
I had a friend that was eating almost nothing, smoking etc and he is now 6'3 so well...

A person can be tall and stunted, your 6ft3 friend could have been 6ft5 perhaps.

soitchi · « **Reply #36 on:** July 22, 2020, 11:14:13 PM »

The whole argument about stunting height would make sense if there was a way for people to figure out how tall they could've been otherwise it's all speculation.

Quote from: Guilt on July 22, 2020, 10:45:09 PM

A person can be tall and stunted, your 6ft3 friend could have been 6ft5 perhaps.

Or he's exactly what he should be. You have not a shred of evidence to support that claim, not even an argument that he could've or should've been taller. If I were to stoop to your level of ignorance I can make stupid claims too and say he should've been 5'2 but somehow grew to 6'3.

ididUrMIM · « **Reply #37 on:** July 30, 2020, 10:00:22 PM »

Quote from: CCMidwest on July 16, 2016, 08:38:05 PM

I was suicidal when I was 16 years old. Tried to cut my wrists. Not height related though, just teenage angst and some problems at home (had a rough home life growing up)

Didn't even realize I was 'short' until 31 years old.

I had a buddy kill himself about 3 years ago (not height related). Left a suicide note to the effect of "nobody loves me anymore"

The amount of people at his funeral would beg to differ. I honestly hate him for it.

Height neurosis sucks, it really does, I get it...cause I have it. Still would never kill myself. It's a big world out there, and there is ALWAYS a way to make things work.

My best friend is 5'4-5'5 and does just fine in life.
I would consider Alu a friend for sure, he's 5'4, and seems to do just fine in life.
I have a 5'2 guy working for me that does fine.
I have a 5'5 guy working for me that does fine.
One of my church elders is 5'5 and does fine.
My uncle was 5'7 and did fine (he died a few months ago)
I have another uncle at 5'5 that is worth over $20 million.
Another friend is 5'6 and dating a stripper.
Another friend is 5'5, going to school for architecture, and has a beautiful girlfriend.
Another friend is 5'5, works for a major hotel chain, and is a total player. (edit: he's 5'6)

Read DIFM's diary. He says to quit looking for evidence that short guys get the raw end of the deal. He's right!

This forum, r/short, the misc, 4chan, whatever....are TOXIC if you have height neurosis. Stop reading, stop thinking, and start living!

Height is the stupidest reason to commit suicide. I've known far too many short guys that have good lives. Far too much evidence in the world that a short guy can live a good life. I've NEVER known a short guy in real life that was as miserable as the short guys on the internet. It's mind boggling.

Do most the short guys I know wish they were taller? Probably. Would their lives have been easier? Probably. But none of them let it get to them. Maybe mentally, because I'm not a mind reader, but external results? Yeah, they do fine.

Besides, and I hate to say this because I would NEVER recommend LL to anybody, but there is always LL.

See a shrink. Try a few shrinks until you find a good fit. GET HELP.

QFT

Are you only friends with short people? Lol

ididUrMIM · « **Reply #38 on:** July 30, 2020, 10:22:08 PM »

Quote from: soitchi on July 22, 2020, 11:14:13 PM

The whole argument about stunting height would make sense if there was a way for people to figure out how tall they could've been otherwise it's all speculation.
Or he's exactly what he should be. You have not a shred of evidence to support that claim, not even an argument that he could've or should've been taller. If I were to stoop to your level of ignorance I can make stupid claims too and say he should've been 5'2 but somehow grew to 6'3.

My diet from the age of 15 was mostly cigarettes and alcohol so although my growth was affected by it, I would have probably only been like 2 or 3cm taller than I am now. Nutrition is a big thing, just take a look at South Korea, they are significantly taller than they used to be, or at least thats what they make it out to look like. Reason being that they are a first world country unlike other less developed asian countries.

IwannaBeTaller · « **Reply #39 on:** July 31, 2020, 05:25:59 PM »

Quote from: mrmccall on July 30, 2020, 10:22:08 PM

My diet from the age of 15 was mostly cigarettes and alcohol so although my growth was affected by it, I would have probably only been like 2 or 3cm taller than I am now. Nutrition is a big thing, just take a look at South Korea, they are significantly taller than they used to be, or at least thats what they make it out to look like. Reason being that they are a first world country unlike other less developed asian countries.

Japan is also a first world country, China is also becoming wealthy and their people are getting enough food. Yet Japanese are shorter than Koreans and Chinese have overtook the Japanese but not the Koreans. The French are probably more healthy than the Germans, yet Germans are taller. So while nutrition does play a big role over several generations, genetics matter.

th · « **Reply #40 on:** August 03, 2020, 11:29:00 AM »

it's an important issue - height neurosis will prevent one leading a truly meaningful life - wearing lifts all the time - after a certain age becomes desperately and secretively mentally tiring - as chris states above...

.. · « **Reply #41 on:** August 03, 2020, 11:41:13 AM »

Sometimes we just try to justify our mistakes in the past and convince ourselves that we didn't damage our growth, even when all the evidence indicates otherwise.

th · « **Reply #42 on:** August 03, 2020, 12:31:08 PM »

what evidence??

.. · « **Reply #43 on:** August 03, 2020, 02:17:40 PM »

Quote from: th on August 03, 2020, 12:31:08 PM

what evidence??

If you just Google 'sleep and height', 'depression and height' you'll find lots of results.

Also, smoking and drugs have been strongly linked to stunted growth.

th · « **Reply #44 on:** August 03, 2020, 04:53:39 PM »

google is not evidence - height neurosis is possibly a mental illness - the issue not being height...

.. · « **Reply #45 on:** August 03, 2020, 05:47:04 PM »

Quote from: th on August 03, 2020, 04:53:39 PM

google is not evidence - height neurosis is possibly a mental illness - the issue not being height...

HAHAHAHAHA

The poster @extremis once explained it very well.

As much as I hate to admit it, a lot of what this guy said were true.

Quote from: extremis on January 13, 2018, 04:59:34 AM

First, BDD is an overdiagnosed umbrella term that is handed out like candy to everyone who shows up to a psychiatrist's office with a complaint about their looks, which in many cases is justified. Most people who are diagnosed with "BDD" regarding a particular physical feature (facial aesthetics, large nose/ears, baldness, short stature, etc) really ARE unattractive because of that feature.

Actual "BDD" wherein the person's "dysmorphia" is unfounded - i.e. the person actually DOESN'T have the flaw they perceive themselves to - is basically UNHEARD OF.

That isn't the case here. There's nobody on this board who is 6'5", but when they look in the mirror they see a 5'2" guy. The problem people have here is they're 5'5" (for example) and when they look in the mirror they see a guy who's 5'5", and when they go out with their friends or just alone they get treated like a guy who's 5'5" (i.e. like a walking punch line, butt of people's jokes, etc).

The problem with all these "psychology" terms like height neurosis or BDD or whatever is that they take the focus off of HEIGHTISM, which is what is actually causing people to perceive their short stature as a flaw and creating the "neurosis" in the first place. People don't just randomly start hating themselves because of a feature and develop mental illnesses for it. It's OTHER people's treatment of them that causes it.

th · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2020, 07:19:41 PM »

more factual scientific evidence from this forum - including batman...

EgoSolus21 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 03, 2020, 10:58:09 PM »

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered it at some point. But it's not entirely height-based.

My physical stature is already abysmal. Poor posture, terrible balance and I can't maintain muscle mass. 5'9" is the worst height, because certain people think you look taller, but when you're standing next to someone who is actually 6', you realize how far off the mark they were.

And whoever claims 5'9" is average in America and only 1% of women are taller than that, you're full of sh*t. Living in a college town, you quickly notice how more than half the female population is taller than you. Every time I go out, I'm reminded of how inadequate and undesirable I am. I hate knowing it makes me feel self-conscious and that I don't yet have the resources to do anything about it. I hate that I'm subconsciously comparing myself with others, over a trait that isn't entirely within our control.

I also know kids these days are being pumped full of growth hormones, but I wish someone would've told me when I was going through puberty that I need to focus more on exercise and nutrition. In all honesty, if I were any shorter than I am now, I'd have taken myself out years ago.

ghkid2019 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2020, 11:08:26 PM »

Quote from: EgoSolus21 on August 03, 2020, 10:58:09 PM

5'9" is the worst height, because certain people think you look taller, but when you're standing next to someone who is actually 6', you realize how far off the mark they were.

Obviously 5'9 is worse than 5'4 or 5'1, definitely the worst possible height

EgoSolus21 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2020, 11:45:43 PM »

Quote from: ghkid2019 on August 03, 2020, 11:08:26 PM

Obviously 5'9 is worse than 5'4 or 5'1, definitely the worst possible height

Anecdotally, absolutely. Especially given that I bookend my disillusion with an honest claim at suicide if I were any shorter.

Props to those who are more "down to Earth" than myself. You're much stronger than I am.

IwannaBeTaller · « **Reply #50 on:** August 05, 2020, 12:20:55 AM »

The mental side plays a massive role in how you perceive yourself, especially when you're at a 'normal' height range. I've felt ridiculously short next to guys who are probably 3 or 4 inches taller, only to see a guy my height or a little bit taller stand next to the same guys and look completely normal and far from stand-out short. I've even felt quite short compared to my father, who's probably not more than 2 cm taller than me now, when I wasn't doing well mentally. During periods where I'm at a good place, I feel much more normal, height-wise.

Then there's the luck of the draw when it comes to the people you mingle with. I've once started to take count of the women that I ran across while I was waiting in a train station and ther heights. 17 women were shorter than me at one point, while I only saw one who was my height. Yet at other times, I see 2 or 3 at one spot who seem to tower over me. One probably has to learn that being towered by some people is a normal fact of real life. It's not a Hollywood movie where 5'9 Silvester Stallone is not towered by anyone because he's the main role and the casting for the movie filtered out any tall people.There will be many people taller, and it doesn't mean you are short.

Build plays yet another big role - while some say being wide can make you look shorter, a 5'9 guy with a muscular, heavy apperance will definitely look much more "presentable" even when standing next to much taller guys. HGH is still not something that is regularly given to kids - it's still something only a minority gets prescribed.

drxboom · « **Reply #51 on:** August 10, 2020, 10:45:06 AM »

I also know very well that current adolescents are using hgh and they are being prescribed more. the only reason for this is that height is extremely important in this world.

IwannaBeTaller · « **Reply #52 on:** August 11, 2020, 05:49:07 PM »

Quote from: drxboom on August 10, 2020, 10:45:06 AM

I also know very well that current adolescents are using hgh and they are being prescribed more. the only reason for this is that height is extremely important in this world.

You got sources bro?

ghkid2019 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 11, 2020, 07:46:13 PM »

Quote from: drxboom on August 10, 2020, 10:45:06 AM

I also know very well that current adolescents are using hgh and they are being prescribed more. the only reason for this is that height is extremely important in this world.

Though true, it's still an EXTREME minority who are using HGH to grow. Even in Korea where this is handed out like candy, only a small percentage is using HGH. It's not mainstream at all

Hagane · « **Reply #54 on:** August 11, 2020, 08:24:51 PM »

damn would kill for a good source on pharm grade gh
last i heard with the current opioid crisis a bunch of UGL's are getting contaminated with fentanyl so i dont even wanna consider

Astronomy · « **Reply #55 on:** December 24, 2020, 12:57:21 PM »

I'm 162cm at night without shoes.I'm shorter by more 10cm than the average height of my inhabitat.
Srsly if it werent for my lover and friends I'd have killed myself far earlier.

Highest · « **Reply #56 on:** December 24, 2020, 01:26:45 PM »

Quote from: Coeus on December 24, 2020, 12:57:21 PM

I'm 162cm at night without shoes.I'm shorter by more 10cm than the average height of my inhabitat.
Srsly if it werent for my lover and friends I'd have killed myself far earlier.

You are lucky to have found a girl like that.

Fox · « **Reply #57 on:** December 24, 2020, 09:48:09 PM »

I feel inadequate compared to more desirable, tall dudes and women has interest only in them, not you. (Understandable really, i really cant blame women) if i was a girl i would choose tall guys too. Facts. And reality hits hardest. fk god for making me go through this. I dont even live in a country where you can earn 30.000 euros in just a year or two. I’d have to work yeaaaaaaaarssss to earn that kind of money in my country ( when you change eur currency to my loser money, its too much )

So I blame myself. I still feel like a kid around people. And i dont want to try hard since it would really be obvious that im trying to be something im not. Inferior and . Basically the thing everybody goes tru in this forum.

I never considered suicide. But i feel like i dont deserve to live.

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