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[InFullStryde]

I'm not ned_flanders. I'm a former LL patient who fully endorses ned_flanders' opinion. I finished LL long time ago. I fully regret it.

Hi LLshouldbebanned,

Which doctor performed your surgery?  What was the procedure used? How come you regret undergoing the surgery?  This information may serve as helpful to the community.

Best Regards,

IFS

[fodawupa]

I'm not ned_flanders. I'm a former LL patient who fully endorses ned_flanders' opinion. I finished LL long time ago. I fully regret it.

please post some evidence otherwise u r as good as some shill writing good about his doctor  tell me whats the difference?

[InFullStryde]

Hi LLshouldbebanned,

Which doctor performed your surgery?  What was the procedure used? How come you regret undergoing the surgery?  This information may serve as helpful to the community.

Best Regards,

IFS

[wannagrowtaller]

Why do you regret your surgery so much. What has happened to you?

[4cms]

Why do you regret your surgery so much. What has happened to you?

Bro dr guichet destroyed her legs, I dont even think shes walking normal yet. Dr guichets nail broke her leg while it was inside, She had to get treatment in her home country.
I understand shes abit better now but i would regret it too!

I went to dr sarin who so many talk bad about and i got a great result twice! Second one was harder but still to go to expensive guichet and have complications then dr guichet asked her to pay for his rods malfunction is unacceptable.

Yes i understand why she might regret it.

[wannagrowtaller]

I was asking to LLshouldbebanned.

[LLshouldbebanned]

People who shill post the name of their doctors. People who wants to destroy their doctors' reputation also post their name. The best proof I have nothing to do with any of them is the fact I won't post the name of my doctor. I'm planning to sue him, if I can, and thus I will remain discreet about his identity or the nature of my complications. Rest assured they are very bad and I have my reasons to regret this surgery. 

[ned_flanders]

Why do you regret your surgery so much. What has happened to you?

guys, im not llshouldbebanned

let me answer here:


LL doesnt change a sh!t in your life. I will finish lengthening in few weeks. Short of my initial lengthening goal.
I was happy before LL. I had everything i wanted.
I was just afraid i would have relapse of the height neurosis later in my life when it would be too late to fix it with LL. Like if I were to have a family and children.
Were I going to obsess with others height? always wear thick soled shoes for 1.5cm extra?

Thats why I did LL. To prevent this from happing and clear my path to establishing in my life. I had a fking mental blueprint of how i wanted my future life to be and i was well on my way.

People will disregard what I am writing because I would do the exactly the same pre-LL.
I would not listen to such opinion and think in my head: "everyone has different life situation, this guy talks about his. I have my own where I really need LL".

LL is a waste of time and money in the best case scenario.
In the worst case, when complication occurs, its fking nightmare. I pray to God everytime i press F1 on that ERC device that I will not experience any. Those poor souls like unicorn and llshouldbebanned, have such mental strength that I can only dream of.

A person consist of so many aspects... height is only one of many. Please look around your There are happy short people.  Be like them.
 
 

[dinozzo]

Ur still lengthening? you are weird, u are everywhere telling a different story.

[Jim_dabarber]

LL is a waste of time and money in the best case scenario.

A person consist of so many aspects... height is only one of many. Please look around your There are happy short people.  Be like them.

You cant tell people to be happy short when you yourself are currently undergoing LL.
I can honestly say im way happier after doing LL. I no longer think about height and only time i feel short is when i stand next to someone 6’2”+
Yes i had complications and everyone knows the risks when undergoing LL but the pros out way the cons by a million times. Not everyone can learn to live being “short” and those who can, i truly admire them but to those that cant, LL will definitely help. Just be smart and do plenty of research and watch your own xrays like a hawk. Even the “best” surgeons make mistakes.

[fodawupa]

You cant tell people to be happy short when you yourself are currently undergoing LL.

 exactly !  ned_flanders is so pretentious 

[Ghostfish]

You cant tell people to be happy short when you yourself are currently undergoing LL.
I can honestly say im way happier after doing LL. I no longer think about height and only time i feel short is when i stand next to someone 6’2”+
Yes i had complications and everyone knows the risks when undergoing LL but the pros out way the cons by a million times. Not everyone can learn to live being “short” and those who can, i truly admire them but to those that cant, LL will definitely help. Just be smart and do plenty of research and watch your own xrays like a hawk. Even the “best” surgeons make mistakes.

Hey Jim
You nailed the point! I am way happier after LL although I am still recovering.  I have read patient's diaries and patients in person.  A lot of them are happier after CLL.  Of course, cll is a heavily risky surgery, not to mention it is expensive in money and time.  So everyone needs to be super careful and prepared well.  Unfortunately, there are patients who suffer from severe complications like UNICORN and LLshouldbebanned.  I am really sorry for her and LLshouldbebanned going through such a hardship.  I really hope she and he can get over this hardship soon. 
As for ned, I don't understand his complaint, since he does not seem to have even a single complication as far as I know.  He is probably unhappy about pain, patience, cost, or loneliness.  I think he was not ready for cll.

[BeYourBest]

guys, im not llshouldbebanned

let me answer here:


LL doesnt change a sh!t in your life. I will finish lengthening in few weeks. Short of my initial lengthening goal.
I was happy before LL. I had everything i wanted.
I was just afraid i would have relapse of the height neurosis later in my life when it would be too late to fix it with LL. Like if I were to have a family and children.
Were I going to obsess with others height? always wear thick soled shoes for 1.5cm extra?

Thats why I did LL. To prevent this from happing and clear my path to establishing in my life. I had a fking mental blueprint of how i wanted my future life to be and i was well on my way.

People will disregard what I am writing because I would do the exactly the same pre-LL.
I would not listen to such opinion and think in my head: "everyone has different life situation, this guy talks about his. I have my own where I really need LL".

LL is a waste of time and money in the best case scenario.
In the worst case, when complication occurs, its fking nightmare. I pray to God everytime i press F1 on that ERC device that I will not experience any. Those poor souls like unicorn and llshouldbebanned, have such mental strength that I can only dream of.

A person consist of so many aspects... height is only one of many. Please look around your There are happy short people.  Be like them.

What's up with you? As in, what is your current issue? Are you going through a lot of pain? Why are you sayings its so F'd up? We know it is but as you are currently lengthening, can you tell us where your regrets are specifically coming from?

Wish you the best on your journey!

[ned_flanders]

Why are you sayings its so F'd up?

what is so "fk'd" up with what I wrote? Try to see the truth...I have received PMs from other members. Some former patients, some on the fence.. they all agree with me but the toxic climate on this forum makes them stay silent.

Look at the other who replied to me, one went to russia and cant feel his lower leg. Other can only "walk, swim and go to gym" and he is content with that. I am not going to engage in debate with people who think that is a good outcome and keep endorsing LL to newbies.

I dont have any issue yet but that doesnt mean I cant criticize what this forum has become: a deception to newcomers. That LL is some kind of magic pill to turn around life. Its not, its filled with permanently injured patients at times masquarading as they're recovered 100% and is conquering the world just because of LL. Because their pride cant accept they did the wrong decision.

And I never called LL to be outlawed, but regulated. Weed out unsafe procedures and surgeons.

[BeYourBest]

Nothing is fked up with what you are writing regarding the reality of LL perhaps. And straight after that question I said "we know it is", which I mean like we do know the reality is F'd up. However, hearing what your personal experiences are is more interesting as you are currently lengthening. We all can read the rest if needed. But yeah, I have agreed with you in the past also that this is serious sh*t out here. I also hope people think deeply before committing.

But like you said you have committed and I wish you the best. It's a shame that you feel that LL will not change your life but maybe down the years it will for the better. Thank you for informing us that you don't have any issues yet. Information like that is helpful for prospective LLers. Albeit, we know every patient is different, it is nice to know that you are doing well as it eases our minds. Good luck on your journey!

Anyway, as we are on Unicorn's diary, I wish her the best recovery.

[4cms]

Im going to be simple, choose a doctor that shows you his current patients and atleast one recovering patient and dont lengthen more than 5cms per segment and you should be fine. We all know there are risks but we do it anyway. I just did 4cms on femurs and im recovering fine.

[notatroll]

Im going to be simple, choose a doctor that shows you his current patients and atleast one recovering patient and dont lengthen more than 5cms per segment and you should be fine. We all know there are risks but we do it anyway. I just did 4cms on femurs and im recovering fine.

Unfortunately there are doctors who manipulate and hide their bad cases. Read here

Dr Monegal doesn’t tell the truth about his patients. He uses to prepare a tour for his prospective patients, like a salesman does. He shows them the clinic and the guesthouse but he only shows what he wants them to know.

In October some prospective patients visited Dr Monegal’s center and met some actual patients. I have visited the center. Glenn described this tour in his diary. Everything seemed fine but the doctor didn’t tell all the truth to his future patients. He introduced these people to all his current patients but one girl who was also at the guesthouse and who has had very serious complications (Musicmaker??). This is for me a case of dishonesty. I learnt about this after my trip.

I can understand that this is a difficult surgery and sometimes things go wrong, but doctor said none of his patients had had complications which wasn’t true.

After the trip, I made some research. I asked some people (patients and people from the forum) and got to know that it’s not only this girl who had problems, but other people. It seems there is one American guy whose implant failed. Dr told him that he had to be exfixed and he had to pay around 7000 eur. Finally the company sent a free implant for him but it failed too and he had to go to OR again. It isn’t about money but about all the trauma and suffering for that guy. It seems he hasn’t been compensated.

I don’t have more evidence of this than what I have been told.  Perhaps patients and doctor himself can explain but I think people should know about this. I feel deceived by the doctor. Dr Monegal should have acted like honest doctors do and say, ‘Look, guys, I try my best, but sometimes complications occur and these are the complications I have had’. But he lied. He said all his surgeries were fantastic and it seems there were at least two people with major complications and other people with other problems like misalignments, screws getting loose and nerve problems which required additional surgeries and consultations with other surgeons.

There are many LL doctors like that. They are businessmen instead of doctors. It seems LL corrupts doctors.

[4cms]

After seeing How badly Dr Guichet destroyed her legs if people saw no one would ever go to Dr guichet ever again
Look up Unicorn_gets_taller on instagram.
I promise if you see her legs you would never consider dr Guichet.
I dont know if shes better now but she was walking crooked and pretty much crippled and awkward.
I really hope you're better unicorn and not like what i seen in those instagram videos.

[4cms]

Heres her instagram judge for yourself

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt_KV48hMK8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://instagram.com/unicorn_gets_taller?igshid=1j3uwvu6kganu

[Unicorn888 by Elaine Foo]

Hi everyone,

I'm so sorry I've not been here at all.  Since the last bout of shilling from Guichet, I've been so traumatized I couldn't even bear to risk coming here and reading the toxcity by accident.  Because I know it will be etched in my head forever and anything I've read will never be unread.

That said, just wanted to update you guys that I've since seen my NHS doctor this morning and unfortunately, they need to perform my 5th surgery now because my right leg which received the DBX (cadaver bone) graft last year had only healed on the part where the graft was applied.

However, the underside where the graft wasn't applied (I never realized grafting can be only 180 degrees and not 360 degrees) has not fused at all.  Again, further proof that Guichet's wait-and-see approach was not going to obtain 'miraculous' results, even after waiting 3 years now.

So NHS will graft me this time with a more invasive manner.  They're going to extract abt 1cm cube of my hip bones and apply that to the back of my right femur where it wasn't grafted last year.  My understanding is it is an excruciating process that could result in a lifetime of pain in the hip area.

In addition, the lead surgeon told me they will not remove the gnail from my body because the nail is way too big for my cortices and even after consolidation, trying to remove it might shatter everything.  Part of the problem is the nail was lodged too high in my hip area and hence, dislodging it would be quite a brutal process.

I'm so numbed out because I had naively convinced myself that my life had to move on and that it did already.  However, this news is quite a stark reality check for me and has set me back to my dark days of hiding under the covers of my bed.

What saddens me most is I always thought that after CLL, I would at least have 1 kid on my own by the time I turn 45 years old.  This is now such a far distant dream due to the fact that not only am I not physically able to bear full pregnancy weight on the guichet nails and unconsolidated bones - I'm left bereft of finances to even feed myself, much less a child.

[wannagrowtaller]

Nice to see your update unicorn. I hope everything goes fine for you from now.

[notatroll]

Your story is so sad! I hope your next surgery is the last one. CLL doctors who destroy their patients' lives should be deprived of their licenses. Let's fight together against these psychopaths.

[4cms]

Hi everyone,

I'm so sorry I've not been here at all.  Since the last bout of shilling from Guichet, I've been so traumatized I couldn't even bear to risk coming here and reading the toxcity by accident.  Because I know it will be etched in my head forever and anything I've read will never be unread.

That said, just wanted to update you guys that I've since seen my NHS doctor this morning and unfortunately, they need to perform my 5th surgery now because my right leg which received the DBX (cadaver bone) graft last year had only healed on the part where the graft was applied.

However, the underside where the graft wasn't applied (I never realized grafting can be only 180 degrees and not 360 degrees) has not fused at all.  Again, further proof that Guichet's wait-and-see approach was not going to obtain 'miraculous' results, even after waiting 3 years now.

So NHS will graft me this time with a more invasive manner.  They're going to extract abt 1cm cube of my hip bones and apply that to the back of my right femur where it wasn't grafted last year.  My understanding is it is an excruciating process that could result in a lifetime of pain in the hip area.

In addition, the lead surgeon told me they will not remove the gnail from my body because the nail is way too big for my cortices and even after consolidation, trying to remove it might shatter everything.  Part of the problem is the nail was lodged too high in my hip area and hence, dislodging it would be quite a brutal process.

I'm so numbed out because I had naively convinced myself that my life had to move on and that it did already.  However, this news is quite a stark reality check for me and has set me back to my dark days of hiding under the covers of my bed.

What saddens me most is I always thought that after CLL, I would at least have 1 kid on my own by the time I turn 45 years old.  This is now such a far distant dream due to the fact that not only am I not physically able to bear full pregnancy weight on the guichet nails and unconsolidated bones - I'm left bereft of finances to even feed myself, much less a child.

Guichet needs to pay for what he's done even if we just spread the word on what he's done to unicorn.
We really should send him messages to give unicorn all her money back.
Unicorn if you send me your full name i can send him a message if you want.
We should all hound him and tell him until he deposits all of unicorns money back we will all spread the truth about him here on the forum.
#Refundunicornhermoneyback.

[4cms]

Post his email here so everyone that reads this diary will feel if they want to message guichet they can.
GIVE UNICORN HER MONEY BACK GUICHET!!!

[Unicorn888 by Elaine Foo]

guys, im not llshouldbebanned

let me answer here:


LL doesnt change a sh!t in your life. I will finish lengthening in few weeks. Short of my initial lengthening goal.
I was happy before LL. I had everything i wanted.
I was just afraid i would have relapse of the height neurosis later in my life when it would be too late to fix it with LL. Like if I were to have a family and children.
Were I going to obsess with others height? always wear thick soled shoes for 1.5cm extra?

Thats why I did LL. To prevent this from happing and clear my path to establishing in my life. I had a fking mental blueprint of how i wanted my future life to be and i was well on my way.

People will disregard what I am writing because I would do the exactly the same pre-LL.
I would not listen to such opinion and think in my head: "everyone has different life situation, this guy talks about his. I have my own where I really need LL".

LL is a waste of time and money in the best case scenario.
In the worst case, when complication occurs, its fking nightmare. I pray to God everytime i press F1 on that ERC device that I will not experience any. Those poor souls like unicorn and llshouldbebanned, have such mental strength that I can only dream of.

A person consist of so many aspects... height is only one of many. Please look around your There are happy short people.  Be like them.

On this part, I cannot agree more.  There's a LOT of risk attached to trying to improve just one aspect of your life, height.

So in my case, I can safely say that I thought it'd make me more attractive to men (model like), it'll make me look younger since everyone of the newer generation is simply taller and being short actually 'dates' me the way we're shocked to see how short old actors like Al Pacino really is.  In today's widespread bio-engineering, taller kids of course are a direct result of better nutrition and the magical fast growth hormones/chemicals in our diet ie. milk and chicken for example.

Hence, it's still a very weak excuse for me to do this surgery.  I had told myself prior to this that I HATED looking at myself in a bikini because my legs were so short and stumpy.  Hence, if it took only 3 months to grow 7cm taller in my home city and at one of the best hospitals in London, of course I was too excited to sign up.

It seemed all too good to be true... and it really was.

[4cms]

What's your first name Unicorn? Or your last name?
If you want you can post one of those and we will start messaging him using that name so he knows who we are reffering to.
That's if you want, If not just ignore my post.

[tlannister]

What's your first name Unicorn? Or your last name?

Post his email here so everyone that reads this diary will feel if they want to message guichet they can.
GIVE UNICORN HER MONEY BACK GUICHET!!!

Unicorn if you send me your full name i can send him a message if you want.
We should all hound him and tell him until he deposits all of unicorns money back we will all spread the truth about him here on the forum.

are you drunk or just stupid?

[4cms]

Are you a guichet puppet?  Gronk, You can get effffed
Bye Felicia!

[wannagrowtaller]

4cms, even if your intentions are good, Unicorn should not give her real name for anyone because she can be doxxed. I don't think flooding Guichet e-mail would work either.

She is a grown woman and she doesn't ask for our help. She is just sharing her experience here, which is really good. Some people who would chose Guichet dodged a bullet.

[patientprivacy]

Unicorn doesn’t need to post her real name for that purpose. Guichet knows perfectly who Unicorm888 is. I would advise not to publish any kind of personal information in this forum. Patient privacy is so important!

[tlannister]

Are you a guichet puppet? Gronk
Bye Felicia!

do i fking look like im associated with any surgeon you neanthertal?
The wikipedia page about you is right: intelligence is very low.