Limb Lengthening Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...  (Read 6552 times)

0 Members and 6 Guests are viewing this topic.

Cloudo

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 125
I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« on: June 09, 2016, 06:29:46 PM »

I have contacted three doctors and they all seem to be good, but I just don't know who to go with. Maybe you guys can help me?
-Ghassan salameh(I trust this guy but I don't like the idea of living in Germany for 3 months with broken legs)
-Manish dhawan(I don't trust him 100% and he doesn't have an organized accommodation for his patients, but the price of he surgery is really cheap   ;))
-Yasser el-batrawy( I 100% trust him and he is really cool but I am having problems with the visa so maybe it will take 2-3 more months till I will be able to get the visa, I hate waiting  :( fk Egypt..)
-Mangal parihar(only sent him an email with few questions but haven't really discussed doing the surgery with him yet)

Although I personally believe that  guichet and paley are the best, but damn that price  :o, I don't think its worth it at all. unless someone is filthy rich then I can see why he would go to these doctors.


Logged
Original height: 176cm
Goal height: 191cm

LLuser1

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 334
  • Banned
Logged
Banned for wrongly implying a patient death/posting incomplete information and repeated spamming/bumping irrelevant threads to post about Dr Monegal/MMaker despite warning.

Cloudo

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 125
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2016, 08:07:46 PM »

El-batrawy? Read this

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=182.msg47339#msg47339
I don't understand? the link you posted is about dr sarin not elbatrawy? maybe you posted the wrong link?

Anyway, I really trust dr elbatrawy, I have asked him a lot of questions and read many of his published papers,he seem to really know what he is doing. Also, he did his training and fellowship under professor Maurizio Catagni then he did his phd under the supervision of dr. paley.
http://www.llrs.org/LLRSegypt.crapml

He also seem to attend international LL conferences every year and do presentations.
https://web.facebook.com/LegLengtheningSurgery/photos/a.872864876057777.1073741828.156174214393517/1148491385161790/?type=3&theater
https://web.facebook.com/LegLengtheningSurgery/photos/a.872864876057777.1073741828.156174214393517/1148491335161795/?type=3&theater
Logged
Original height: 176cm
Goal height: 191cm

LLuser1

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 334
  • Banned
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2016, 08:17:23 PM »

HERE:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2552.msg40167#msg40167


BEWARE
« Reply #103 on: December 29, 2015, 02:43:27 AM »

FROM ANOTHER SITE (BUT IT'S USEFUL HERE TOO)

It has come to our attention that some Leg Lengthening surgeons in developing countries have encouraged their patients to write positive reviews to be submitted to Short Persons Support. This is done while patients are still being cared for. Patients have reported that they feel pressured to do so, in order to receive proper care. To reduce this burden on patients, who are undergoing severe physical rehabilitation, we have decided to permanently discontinue posting reviews about leg lengthening surgeons.
With the use of IP analysis tools, we have also found that some doctors have written positive reviews for themselves or negative reviews about their competitors. These reviews have not been posted.
It is truly shameful that such professionals, who have dedicated so much time and effort to excel in their field, and who should have earned our utmost respect and admiration, have sunk so low.

theuprising

Re: BEWARE
« Reply #104 on: December 29, 2015, 05:24:56 AM »

This is all very cloak and dagger. Can you post the screen shots of the evidence.

Alu

Re: BEWARE
« Reply #105 on: December 29, 2015, 06:09:20 AM »

Quote from: theuprising on December 29, 2015, 05:24:56 AM

    This is all very cloak and dagger. Can you post the screen shots of the evidence.

It's on the Short Person Support website under leg lengthening tab. It's pretty much copied and pasted from the website, and really, adds nothing to the discussion. I can't even confirm when that post was made since there's no timestamp and it looks like SPS hasn't been updated in a long time. Anyways I'm 90% sure this was ages ago and it never specifies a particular doctor so eh?

Medium Drink Of Water

Re: BEWARE
« Reply #106 on: December 29, 2015, 06:45:29 AM »

I think this was made in reference to the feud between two Egyptian doctors (Elbatrawy and one other guy) that was going on years ago, when ShortSupport was still being updated.
Logged
Banned for wrongly implying a patient death/posting incomplete information and repeated spamming/bumping irrelevant threads to post about Dr Monegal/MMaker despite warning.

paddy10tellys

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 145
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 08:30:07 PM »

I met Dr Salameh & Schmidt, in Germany, this week. They are a team. I was very impressed. I trust them. I like them both. I thought Konisberg was absolutely beautiful & I really like the look & feel of Germany. Likewise, I met Dr Guichet 2/52 ago in London. I trust him as well. I'm having my Tibia's done first so it's Germany for me. I'm going to try & learn some German while I'm there. It I wanted my Femurs doing I would go with Dr G. The others I can't say because I have not met them in person, or researched their work. Good luck, Cloudo.
Logged
Ht 169.5 cms. Wingspan 165cms. Arms 72cms. Femur-tibia length ratio = 56/44. Wants 175cms. Tibias only

Cloudo

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 125
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 09:09:06 PM »

I met Dr Salameh & Schmidt, in Germany, this week. They are a team. I was very impressed. I trust them. I like them both. I thought Konisberg was absolutely beautiful & I really like the look & feel of Germany. Likewise, I met Dr Guichet 2/52 ago in London. I trust him as well. I'm having my Tibia's done first so it's Germany for me. I'm going to try & learn some German while I'm there. It I wanted my Femurs doing I would go with Dr G. The others I can't say because I have not met them in person, or researched their work. Good luck, Cloudo.
Thanks mate

I am intending to do external tibia lengthening too, I really would have loved to do it with salameh but I didn't feel comfortable in Germany. I don't know why maybe because of the language barrier? the weather? I really don't know what was the reason but I felt depressed in Germany  :(
Good luck paddy
btw when will you do the surgery? or you haven't set a date yet?
Logged
Original height: 176cm
Goal height: 191cm

Cloudo

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 125
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2016, 09:17:31 PM »

HERE:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2552.msg40167#msg40167


BEWARE
« Reply #103 on: December 29, 2015, 02:43:27 AM »

FROM ANOTHER SITE (BUT IT'S USEFUL HERE TOO)

It has come to our attention that some Leg Lengthening surgeons in developing countries have encouraged their patients to write positive reviews to be submitted to Short Persons Support. This is done while patients are still being cared for. Patients have reported that they feel pressured to do so, in order to receive proper care. To reduce this burden on patients, who are undergoing severe physical rehabilitation, we have decided to permanently discontinue posting reviews about leg lengthening surgeons.
With the use of IP analysis tools, we have also found that some doctors have written positive reviews for themselves or negative reviews about their competitors. These reviews have not been posted.
It is truly shameful that such professionals, who have dedicated so much time and effort to excel in their field, and who should have earned our utmost respect and admiration, have sunk so low.

theuprising

Re: BEWARE
« Reply #104 on: December 29, 2015, 05:24:56 AM »

This is all very cloak and dagger. Can you post the screen shots of the evidence.

Alu

Re: BEWARE
« Reply #105 on: December 29, 2015, 06:09:20 AM »

Quote from: theuprising on December 29, 2015, 05:24:56 AM

    This is all very cloak and dagger. Can you post the screen shots of the evidence.

It's on the Short Person Support website under leg lengthening tab. It's pretty much copied and pasted from the website, and really, adds nothing to the discussion. I can't even confirm when that post was made since there's no timestamp and it looks like SPS hasn't been updated in a long time. Anyways I'm 90% sure this was ages ago and it never specifies a particular doctor so eh?

Medium Drink Of Water

Re: BEWARE
« Reply #106 on: December 29, 2015, 06:45:29 AM »

I think this was made in reference to the feud between two Egyptian doctors (Elbatrawy and one other guy) that was going on years ago, when ShortSupport was still being updated.
Dude why don't you check the links you post before posting them? I appreciate your effort but this really isn't helping me, the link you posted is about sarin not elbatrawy!
As for the info you quoted from the old forum, well I don't know if I can trust that website in the first place! (that's the reason why I am here and not on that website :))
Logged
Original height: 176cm
Goal height: 191cm

paddy10tellys

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 145
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2016, 09:26:06 PM »

This Oct.
I know what you mean. I'm afraid of being lonely, bored & isolated in a foreign country as well but the time served will be worth the result. I think the psychological adaption will be more difficult than the pain but worrying is just betting against yourself so I'm going to cross the line & take my chances rather than gaze at it for the rest of my life thinking, "what if?" Whatever happens, it will be an experience...
Logged
Ht 169.5 cms. Wingspan 165cms. Arms 72cms. Femur-tibia length ratio = 56/44. Wants 175cms. Tibias only

goldenegg

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 189
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2016, 01:33:11 AM »

I would go to the best and safest doctor within your budget.  there's so much more on the line than your money, so choosing a doctor you don't trust just because he's cheaper doesn't seem like a good reason... unless that doctor also happens to be the best one within your budget based on your research.   

(disclaimer: I don't know much about any of the doctors you are considering)
Logged

Cheez

  • Newbie
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 65
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2016, 08:05:37 AM »

... but I felt depressed in Germany  :(

Everybody feels depressed in Germany, that's how we roll. :D

(and then there is the Oktoberfest, and everybody's drunk and happy again..)
Logged

ortholengthening

  • Newbie
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 55
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2016, 05:44:55 PM »

This Oct.
I know what you mean. I'm afraid of being lonely, bored & isolated in a foreign country as well but the time served will be worth the result. I think the psychological adaption will be more difficult than the pain but worrying is just betting against yourself so I'm going to cross the line & take my chances rather than gaze at it for the rest of my life thinking, "what if?" Whatever happens, it will be an experience...

Good luck starting in October. I hope that you will start a diary and keep us updated.
Will you be going for 7 cm on tibias?
Will you be staying in Germany for the full duration of lengthening only or consolidation as well?
As someone who is not in 20's myself, I would be interested in finding out your recovery/healing
Logged

paddy10tellys

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 145
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2016, 06:57:02 PM »

thx Ortholengthening, I will keep a diary.

Dr Schmidt has an annexe at his house & he says I can hire that. I want to get back to the UK before Xmas. That gives me two to three months, in Germany. When will I leave exactly, not sure just yet? I plan to do 6cms. I have given in my notice to quit at work, applied for my occupational pension & increased my leg strengthening & stretching workouts.

If all goes well I will return to work in a different job, on a part time basis after about six months.

Healing? Well, I've has 3 orthopaedic ops in the last 11 years - you unremember the pain & distress...

I will keep you posted.

I hope your plans work out well (& mine)
Logged
Ht 169.5 cms. Wingspan 165cms. Arms 72cms. Femur-tibia length ratio = 56/44. Wants 175cms. Tibias only

TIBIKE200

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1574
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2016, 07:46:17 PM »

thx Ortholengthening, I will keep a diary.

Dr Schmidt has an annexe at his house & he says I can hire that. I want to get back to the UK before Xmas. That gives me two to three months, in Germany. When will I leave exactly, not sure just yet? I plan to do 6cms. I have given in my notice to quit at work, applied for my occupational pension & increased my leg strengthening & stretching workouts.

If all goes well I will return to work in a different job, on a part time basis after about six months.

Healing? Well, I've has 3 orthopaedic ops in the last 11 years - you unremember the pain & distress...

I will keep you posted.

I hope your plans work out well (& mine)

You should focus more and stretching than streangthening the shins... Strong muscles will put more resistance which in turn can cause more pain and increase the risk of misallignment (A few LL docs said this).
 What you should do is jogging or long walks in order to increase blood flow to your legs (Which will cause an increase in blood vessels).
 Good luck mate
Logged
I learned some stuff during this time

LLuser1

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 334
  • Banned
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2016, 08:05:59 PM »

@ Cloudo, wrong link. I made a mistake, but my original post had also been moved to a different thread.
The forum Medium talks about is not old forum (make me taller). It's a third forum. This forum never had agreements with doctors. No problem at all with it.
I have never met a patient of Elbatrawy. I pointed at this because I found this in the internet. I only recommend strongly against Monegal and Betz because I have seen their bad results in person, and have met doctors and they don't seem reliable at all. They only want to sell their surgeries and tell you everything is perfect but it isn't.
Logged
Banned for wrongly implying a patient death/posting incomplete information and repeated spamming/bumping irrelevant threads to post about Dr Monegal/MMaker despite warning.

LLCaptain

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 121
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 12:59:54 AM »

@ Cloudo, wrong link. I made a mistake, but my original post had also been moved to a different thread.
The forum Medium talks about is not old forum (make me taller). It's a third forum. This forum never had agreements with doctors. No problem at all with it.
I have never met a patient of Elbatrawy. I pointed at this because I found this in the internet. I only recommend strongly against Monegal and Betz because I have seen their bad results in person, and have met doctors and they don't seem reliable at all. They only want to sell their surgeries and tell you everything is perfect but it isn't.

Hey, I've seen you around the forum for like 2 years. When are you going to do LL?
Logged

LLuser1

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 334
  • Banned
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 01:25:19 AM »

Hey, I've seen you around the forum for like 2 years. When are you going to do LL?

Mistaken. I'm here from december 2015. 6 months. Banned for almost 4 months. Just 2 months here
Logged
Banned for wrongly implying a patient death/posting incomplete information and repeated spamming/bumping irrelevant threads to post about Dr Monegal/MMaker despite warning.

Alu

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 720
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2016, 02:23:45 AM »

Mistaken. I'm here from december 2015. 6 months. Banned for almost 4 months. Just 2 months here

So when?
Logged

LLCaptain

  • Jr. Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 121
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2016, 08:25:39 PM »

Mistaken. I'm here from december 2015. 6 months. Banned for almost 4 months. Just 2 months here

Yeah man, when are you going to do LL? 2 years in the forum is a long time.

Maybe you can share your experience and the doctor you do it with so we can see a honest diary with a good doctor.
Logged

LLuser1

  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 334
  • Banned
Re: I am really finding it hard to decide on which doctor...
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2016, 09:19:06 PM »

Yeah man, when are you going to do LL? 2 years in the forum is a long time.

Maybe you can share your experience and the doctor you do it with so we can see a honest diary with a good doctor.

2 years? You don't know what you are talking about. Only 3 months active here (banned for 4 months).
If I could, I would go to Paley.
Logged
Banned for wrongly implying a patient death/posting incomplete information and repeated spamming/bumping irrelevant threads to post about Dr Monegal/MMaker despite warning.
Pages: [1]   Go Up