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Ajax2thousand20

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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #186 on: December 06, 2014, 09:46:00 AM »

I would disagree that 5cm on the femurs and/or tibias is necessarily the limit. I would go with what Dr. Paley says: 7 cm (or maybe slightly more) on the tibias and 8 cm on the femurs.

I know you really want to get to 6'1" but if your going to do that much, you really would probably need 2 surgerys on each section (if that is possible). Your sitting height is the same to mine but it still would probably be best to go that route. I'm thinking of doing 4cms on my tibias and maybe 3-4 on my femurs which would put me in the 6'3.5-6'4" range (ideal height for footballer!)
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #187 on: December 06, 2014, 11:27:41 AM »

I know you really want to get to 6'1" but if your going to do that much, you really would probably need 2 surgerys on each section (if that is possible). Your sitting height is the same to mine but it still would probably be best to go that route. I'm thinking of doing 4cms on my tibias and maybe 3-4 on my femurs which would put me in the 6'3.5-6'4" range (ideal height for footballer!)

ideal height for footballer?? look at Lionel Messi , Maradona , etc... the tallest is Christiano CRonnie7 that is 184 or 6,1
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #188 on: December 06, 2014, 11:44:33 AM »

ideal height for footballer?? look at Lionel Messi , Maradona , etc... the tallest is Christiano CRonnie7 that is 184 or 6,1

He's american (notice how he says 6'3.5 instead of 192) so he means american football. Also I think CRonnie7 is 186CM not that I know much about sports.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #189 on: December 06, 2014, 12:14:01 PM »

ideal height for footballer?? look at Lionel Messi , Maradona , etc... the tallest is Christiano CRonnie7 that is 184 or 6,1
Typical misunderstanding between football and American "football". Lol
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #190 on: December 06, 2014, 12:19:26 PM »

Just play Rugby, no misunderstandings, problem solved  ;D
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #191 on: December 06, 2014, 04:35:35 PM »

Yeah, my plan is 7 cm on the tibias and 8 cm on the femurs. With that, I'll reach 184 cm, which might be slightly less than my goal, but is still alright.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #192 on: December 06, 2014, 04:41:40 PM »

I love how short dudes worry with proportions, I m 6 feet and I m not preocupied by those things hehe
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #193 on: December 06, 2014, 06:14:17 PM »

Typical misunderstanding between football and American "football". Lol

im from Spain where the best football in the world is done :)
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #194 on: December 06, 2014, 07:20:45 PM »

im from Spain where the best football in the world is done :)
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #195 on: December 06, 2014, 07:37:09 PM »

I love how short dudes worry with proportions, I m 6 feet and I m not preocupied by those things hehe

You should be.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #196 on: December 06, 2014, 08:26:10 PM »

You should be.
the taller the more u can lemgthen
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #197 on: December 06, 2014, 08:42:48 PM »

Just play Rugby, no misunderstandings, problem solved  ;D

Most people never even heard of Rugby in the U.S. we have a rugby team but don't know who it is.
But basically model height in America is 5'11.75-6'3" (was 6'2" but they upped it to 6'3" and have a select amount of men who are 6'4" but no one under 5'11" barefoot) baseball is 6'3", and  American football ideal is preferably 6'3.5-6'5" (with 6'4" being sweet spot).

He's american (notice how he says 6'3.5 instead of 192) so he means american football. Also I think CRonnie7 is 186CM not that I know much about sports.

CRonnie7 was measured at a hair over 6'1" so yes that's equal to 186 cm (6'1.25")

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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #198 on: December 06, 2014, 09:00:40 PM »

the taller the more u can lemgthen

But the difference should be very slight no? 178/170=1,047 and 188/180=1,044

So there is a 4,4% increase in 188 from 180 compared to 4,7 in 178 from 170. The difference is less than half a percent not very significant.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #199 on: December 06, 2014, 10:41:02 PM »

But the difference should be very slight no? 178/170=1,047 and 188/180=1,044

So there is a 4,4% increase in 188 from 180 compared to 4,7 in 178 from 170. The difference is less than half a percent not very significant.

I don't think I can do more than 5cms each segment because I already have long legs. I will be just under %50 of my proportions for doing 10cms so I think I'll probably do "2 max on my tibias maybe even "1.5 to be even safer.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #200 on: December 16, 2014, 03:37:41 AM »

In your opinions, anybody's opinion with reasonable experience on the matter, is lengthening 7 cm per limb too risky?
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #201 on: December 16, 2014, 03:43:55 AM »

In your opinions, anybody's opinion with reasonable experience on the matter, is lengthening 7 cm per limb too risky?

I don't think it's too risky, as long as you go to a good doctor.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #202 on: December 16, 2014, 03:50:09 AM »

I don't think it's too risky, as long as you go to a good doctor.
That applied to both tibia and femurs ? Thank you for your answer
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #203 on: December 16, 2014, 03:59:32 AM »

Yes, both tibiae and femurs.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #204 on: December 16, 2014, 06:22:29 AM »

I don't think it's too risky, as long as you go to a good doctor.

I think the rule of thumb is to lengthen a single segment no more than 20% of original bone length.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #205 on: December 16, 2014, 08:56:24 AM »

I think the rule of thumb is to lengthen a single segment no more than 20% of original bone length.

Rule of thumb. 7.5-8 cm max.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #206 on: December 16, 2014, 09:02:07 AM »

So did Crazy 6 do 3" on Tibias and 5" on femurs? What was the amount on each surgery?
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #207 on: December 16, 2014, 09:13:20 AM »

So did Crazy 6 do 3" on Tibias and 5" on femurs? What was the amount on each surgery?

16 cm total. 8cm on each i think it was. He looked recovered and good so that is great.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #208 on: December 16, 2014, 05:17:01 PM »

16 cm total. 8cm on each i think it was. He looked recovered and good so that is great.

Do you know how old was he? How much in your opinion age factors in recovery?
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #209 on: December 16, 2014, 09:11:34 PM »

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16 cm total. 8cm on each i think it was. He looked recovered and good so that is great

I thought he did 17 cm, and was more or less crippled for life.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #210 on: December 16, 2014, 09:15:05 PM »

I thought he did 17 cm, and was more or less crippled for life.

Slim Tim was being sarcastic.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #211 on: December 16, 2014, 09:20:09 PM »

I did 10 cm in my femurs and 7.5 cm in my tibias.  At 6'3" I am too skinny for my height.  Though steroids temporarily kept my weight fine for my height, I knew that I could not take steroids for the rest of my life and stopped.  I cannot run and probably never will.  If I could go back in time, I would have stopped at 6'1 or so.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #212 on: December 16, 2014, 09:26:18 PM »

I did 10 cm in my femurs and 7.5 cm in my tibias.  At 6'3" I am too skinny for my height.  Though steroids temporarily kept my weight fine for my height, I knew that I could not take steroids for the rest of my life and stopped.  I cannot run and probably never will.  If I could go back in time, I would have stopped at 6'1 or so.

Hi Greekster, I remember you from way back in the day on the old forum. That's a shame you're unable to run. How's your walking? Do you get random aches and pains or anything?
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #213 on: December 16, 2014, 09:39:00 PM »

I thought he did 17 cm, and was more or less crippled for life.

I thought the same thing and the video he posted was very hard to watch.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #214 on: December 16, 2014, 09:43:15 PM »

Greekster. Allthough I'm not considering going beyond 5cms each segment, can you at least walk?
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #215 on: December 16, 2014, 09:49:28 PM »

mr greekster :)

long time no hear. I am gratefull that you decided to post.

I appreciate vets opinions. and hope you stay and talk with us :) your opinion is invaluable.
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Re: The new paradigm in LL; no longer are we aiming for 10cm
« Reply #216 on: December 16, 2014, 10:59:36 PM »

I did 10 cm in my femurs and 7.5 cm in my tibias.  At 6'3" I am too skinny for my height.  Though steroids temporarily kept my weight fine for my height, I knew that I could not take steroids for the rest of my life and stopped.  I cannot run and probably never will.  If I could go back in time, I would have stopped at 6'1 or so.

Have you gone to some PT clinics to see off they could do anything?
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172 cm in the morning (67.8"); 170 cm (67”) at night; Sitting Height: 96 cm (37.8”); Goal: 184.5 cm (6'0.7"); Ultimate Goal: 192 cm (6’3.5) morning height, 190 cm (6’3) “night” height
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