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Should we ban people like LLuser1?

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Re: Re: DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2016, 11:55:48 PM »

It doesnt matter if you consider the info good or bad, the fact is that both glenn and musicmaker has specifically told you to stop mentioning their private information, yet you continue to do so.  I dont actually blame you for it since you are just doing what is allowed here; its a little shocking to me that the admin lacks empathy towards current patients getting harassed by you, but his site his rules.  But thanks to you Im altering my approach on how to use this community and making sure Ill not say anything about myself here or in person while doing LL to avoid additional stress. 

You are right about being a millionaire though, my only hesitation towards Paley is that if complications happen (and they tend to happen at a decent rate as with any doctor), it could really set me back financially... I can afford it if everything goes smoothly, but yeah...some scary stuff. 
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Re: Re: DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley
« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2016, 12:11:44 AM »

You should be careful of making post with any personal info. I read on old forum that the original owner of the site had his house vandalized by a former patient for some reason and that is why he sold the forum in the first place.
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Re: Re: DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2016, 12:34:02 AM »

That's why I haven't disclosed these patients' real names and other info. I didn't post anything really personal. I don't blame the patients but the whole LL business that corrupts doctors. I won't go against poor guinea pigs deceived by the doctor as I myself was.

I wanted to prove I knew a lot about things happening in Barcelona and I didn't pull these stories out of my ass. I know many things apart from this... not good things and I thought you people in the forum should be aware. I'm trying to be useful for this community. Some sensible people told me they're grateful I've done this.

In my opinion you should stay away from Spain and Monegal. Go better to top doctors in America as Doingitforme did. if you don't.. well it's up to you. You can do whatever you want with your legs. Just voicing my opinion and demonstrating I have my reasons for acting like this.
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Re: Re: DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley
« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2016, 01:20:29 AM »

If you always have posted in the tone that you did in your previous post, I dont think many people would have as much problems with you because you at least sound somewhat rational.  I do believe that any LL doctor whether that is Monegal, Guichet, Paley, Betz, Sarin, whoever is open to criticism, and anything that anyone learns from them is open to intepretation. 

As I have stated, Ive met Monegal before, been to the MIC, and learned similar things as you...  He wasnt exactly forthcoming with complications, there were many hidden costs that wasnt included such as lodging, xrays, physical therapy that was unclear....and he was very friendly but didnt strike me as an organized person so the logistical issues that you and some others have stated doesnt surprise me at all... yet I still think he is a solid option.  The main reason is that Ive had the opportunity to have consultations with a few other LL doctors, and guess what: everyone has complications that they are not exactly forthcoming about, as well has hidden costs.  To me, Dr Monegal was no worse or better in that regard.

I will use Dr. Paley as an example, since this is a Paley journal and he is considered the top(I believe this too, he is certainly more experienced than Dr. Monegal).  When I asked him about complications, he was very dodgy and evasive, and said that no patients of his had any complications that was not the fault of their own.  But looking at the journals here, we all know that is untrue.  Also, he believes all the training that Dr. Guichet insists is essential, is completely useless.  So we have two of the top doctors with opposite opinions about a fundamental concept.  And we all know how much paley charges for complications (in the tens of thousands).  So am I going to start an anti Paley crusade like you did with Monegal?  Nope, I still think Dr. Paley is a solid option (just very expensive), and will probably go with him at the end because Id rather be closer to home (Im American). 

Your opinions about Monegal may be valid and you may have the best of intentions, but the fact remains that you are making current patients extermely uncomfortable and ignoring their pleas for you to stop.  You are using them so that you can appear like a wannabe Edward Snowden.  You can criticize Dr. Monegal all you want, but leave the patients alone. 
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Re: Re: DoingItForMe's Precice 2 Internal Femurs with Dr. Paley
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2016, 03:40:09 AM »

LLuser1 can attack the doctor, but he crossed some lines telling the world everything he knows about mm and glenn. I hope we can find his real identify one day so someone can go vandalize his home, maybe beat up his dog, put posters around his neighborhood about his porn habits cuz he jerks it to Monegal nightly.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2016, 05:55:55 PM »

Hey mods, can we do something about this guy please?

-Disruptive and disrespectful on the forum
-Creepy and stalkerish behavior
-Taking threads off topic, usually to slander a certain doctor
-Divulges private patient information without consent, some of it untrue
-Repeated Harassment: he sends members unwanted private messages to change or speak ill of their doctor

This guy deserves an IP ban for 5 years
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2016, 06:19:26 PM »

I think he hasnt given  proofs, because would be legal issues.So if all us want to know what really happen, if Lluser is telling the truth, we should allow him to tell his story.One and another time, all us say give proofs but he cant, so can we allow him? Patients have to have privacy, but can we allow him to give proofs???
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2016, 07:51:41 PM »

Thanks onemorefoot. I don't have many pieces of evidence but I've got a copy of Xrays of famous Monegal patients that I can send moderators in private so that they can judge if the operation was correctly done. Thes Xrays are powerful proofs. I have also pictures and screenshots but those were sent to me in private and I am not allowed to divulge them. Some people say that I divulge private information without consent. I did that in the forum only once because nobody trusted me and I just included irrelevant details and not personal information, to prove I know much about this Monegal mob and I wasn't pulling the stories out of my ass. I know some of you trust me now and I won't post anything personal again, but you should allow me to voice my concerns about this dangerous doctor. My advices are useful to many people.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2016, 08:11:42 PM »

Just imagine if Unicorn888 was Monegal's patient, considering her last complication. LLuser1 would be like: " SEE, THIS IS THE WORST CASE IN LL HISTORY, THIS DOCTOR HAS NO SKILL, HE DESTROYED HER LEGS, ..etc "
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2016, 08:50:42 PM »

If Unicorn posts her Xrays or sends them to moderators they can compare and decide.
Anyway Doctor Guichet is more skilled than Monegal and the most important thing, he is honest and respectful.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2016, 10:06:12 PM »

Just imagine if Unicorn888 was Monegal's patient, considering her last complication. LLuser1 would be like: " SEE, THIS IS THE WORST CASE IN LL HISTORY, THIS DOCTOR HAS NO SKILL, HE DESTROYED HER LEGS, ..etc "

Lol! My thoughts exactly. #doublestandards

Hey mods, can we do something about this guy please?

-Disruptive and disrespectful on the forum
-Creepy and stalkerish behavior
-Taking threads off topic, usually to slander a certain doctor
-Divulges private patient information without consent, some of it untrue
-Repeated Harassment: he sends members unwanted private messages to change or speak ill of their doctor

This guy deserves an IP ban for 5 years

Seconded. And I'm not going to add more because I don't want to feed the troll.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2016, 10:51:08 PM »

Stop attacking me please. I am doing you a favour. If you don't want to listen, don't listen, but don't attack me.

I have a great idea. If Guichet doesn't solve Unicorn's problem before 2 years I will apologize to Monegal and give you my approval to delete my posts about Musicmaker's disaster (but not about doctor's dishonesty of lying because that has nothing to do, or about other patients' bad cases like Cooper's, which is proved).

LL is a dangerous surgery. All doctors and patients can face complications, but good doctors know how to solve them promptly. Unicorn says her lengthening will take 6 months instead of 4 months and she will need 2 surgeries. Monegal has taken 2 years of the life of poor child Musicmaker and 10 aggressive surgeries and she is still wheelchairbounded and in constant pain and will need more surgeries. I think Unicorn's case will be different. If not I will apologize to Monegal and you can delete posts about MM's disaster, worst case in LL history.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2016, 11:22:54 PM »

It's not just what you say, it's how you say it. You blurted out an irrelevant amount of Musicmaker and Monegal on Unicorn's thread for example, that had nothing to do with her. It doesn't matter if you think everyone needs to know what you have to say- keep it relevant or it's a troll post.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2016, 11:56:17 PM »

I thought it was relevant. Unicorn and Musicmaker had the SAME complication. I am sure Guichet will know how to deal with it (unlike Monegal) and Unicorn will be happy very soon. This will prove that Guichet is a good doctor. I have always supported Guichet.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2016, 12:33:20 AM »

It wasn't relevant to Unicorn at all.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2016, 12:37:10 AM »

If I were Unicorn I would like to know that other patients faced the same problems, and even if it isn't relevant to Unicorn it's relevant for readers of this forum.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2016, 12:47:39 AM »

If it's for other users, whoever wants to go to Monegal should put his name in the search bar, do their research and I'm sure plenty of your posts will show up.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2016, 10:47:02 AM »

Some members' attitude here is beyond belief. Can't believe people can be this naive. There's a precedent of people getting away with their crimes from The Law Enforcement Agencies, The Courts of Law and different Governing Bodies.  Not everything revolves around 'Proofs', people. Get a little real. Why do you think Al-Capone was charged with Tax Evasion and not any of the murders he committed or why do you think EVERY major country has black sites? Well, Surprise!!!! It's because 'proofs' aren't just lying around. Say whatever you want about LLuser1 but personally, I don't doubt for a second the guy has sources. Now there's a number of reasons people won't come forward, including but not limited to, people don't wanna be associated to LL, fear legal ramifications, are under Doctor's treatment and can't afford to switch, lack the energy or just don't care enough.

Anyone who takes Musicmaker's word over LLuser1's is simply incapable of logical thinking. I mean, Musicmaker's one of Dr. Monegal's worst case(her words) yet she doesn't have a SINGLE negative thing say about the Doctor. Now that implies quite a few things but I wouldn't judge her. You have to put it in context, see where she's coming from. I just wouldn't take Musicmaker's words for Dr. Monegal - Apart from that, I've nothing but best wishes for Musicmaker. As for banning LLuser1, what some of the entitled members must realize is this forum was not made for them specifically. There's plenty members who don't post and plenty Guests who may find LLuser1's posts useful. Don't like his posts? Ignore them. It's as simple as that.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2016, 11:05:08 AM »

Don't like his posts? Ignore them. It's as simple as that.
Lol so let's all post irrelevant stuff and hijack patient diaries, and if they don't like it, golly well gee they should just ignore it!!11!
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2016, 11:08:58 AM »

I'm not saying he's full of  . I don't know enough. I can say for a fact his way of doing things merits a suspension and needs to stop and I think everyone agrees.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2016, 11:11:37 AM »

Do i need admin/moderator permission to sell popcorn here?
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2016, 11:13:17 AM »

I don't doubt LLuser accuracy, I just think he posts very personal details about some of the patients that it's creepy and wrong. He also refuses to say anything about himself and his personal interactions or sources.

He's definitely lying about something, maybe he's an ex patient himself
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2016, 05:18:18 PM »

yet she doesn't have a SINGLE negative thing say about the Doctor.
That's a lie, get your facts right.

Oh, and btw, if I follow your logic I couldn't trust any doctor  ::)

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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2016, 06:27:25 PM »

Not entertaining nitpicked one liners. Sorry.
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« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2016, 06:51:20 PM »

Not entertaining nitpicked one liners. Sorry.

Oh sorry, I thought it was an important line since you even used CAPS LOCK, must have been a miss click.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2016, 08:01:50 PM »

It's still funny though. The doctor himself has came on here to deny what was said about him. His current patients defend him. His past patients defend him. All we have so far is succeful diaries from his last patients.

...and yet, some posters prefer to believe in the words of some random user, who we don't know anything about.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2016, 08:16:01 PM »

It's still funny though. The doctor himself has came on here to deny what was said about him.

I don't side with anybody but his "denying" is worth absolutly nothing. Obviously he isn't going to say "Hey yea i fkd up my patients and stuff lol"

It's like sarin would come and deny all the   that happened to people and everybody would be like "oh ok".

Just a thought doe.
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2016, 09:02:57 PM »

I don't side with anybody but his "denying" is worth absolutly nothing. Obviously he isn't going to say "Hey yea i fkd up my patients and stuff lol"

It's like sarin would come and deny all the crap that happened to people and everybody would be like "oh ok".

Just a thought doe.

I actually think it means alot. By denying it hes putting his word on the line and his word can easly be proven false by the patients. There is no way that a bad doctor who has so many patients doesn't have a single one complaining about his skill.

Sarin can come and deny what's been said about him all he wants but it has been his patients bad mouthing him and not some random fella, doesn't that make all the difference?
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« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2016, 09:16:52 PM »

I actually think it means alot.

In the terms of dismissing LLuser claims? Absolutly fkin nothing.

There is no way that a bad doctor who has so many patients doesn't have a single one complaining about his skill.

What about Cooper?

And musicmaker(no hard feelings to her doe im quite sorry that she is going through this) being on a wheelchair for a long time?
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Re: Petition to ban LLuser1 and similar offenders
« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2016, 11:54:54 PM »

Dude, perhaps if you tell us what exactly is your end game, advice, suggestions or whatever instead of mumbling the same   over and over again...maybe people will take your warning seriously! Get serious bro, you got dirt on someone and it's for the safety of the rest then just expose it rather than shouting conspiracies everyday like those crapF preppers!
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« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2016, 12:02:00 AM »

But he cant, would be illegal.
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