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[Wannabegiant]

wannabe..

How is your generall health. that is one of my biggest concerns. I have already lived a rather unhealhy lifestyle. And i figure if i was bedridden for 4-5 months with painkillers taken pretty much everyday. Not the best food and sleep. also STRESS on that. How are you holding up do you feel the same as before surgery or more worn up.

There where periods in my LL journey where i felt really weak both physically and mentally over my situation, and seeing my legs becoming so skinny and losing overall weight over my body including my face made me even more depressed. (my face became gaunt for a while)

Because while i ate good food and 3 meals a day etc i didnt realize that my already very high metabolism would burn even more weight when the body is healing 2 broken legs. Well i did know about it but i didnt know it would make such a big difference.

Eventually i started taking protein shake supplements and eating some extra fast food, fruit and snacks in between my main meals to get my weight up a bit.

But overall mental stress and depression over the loneliness is the main hurdle in LL.

Right now physically im pretty good, my calves have regained their almost all of the muscle it seems and they feel pretty strong but probably not fully recovered yet (i have to take into account that the legs will feel slightly less agile because of carrying the weight from the fixators).


Walking inside and outside on flat ground feels easy already, but when walking outside on slopes and hills it felt very difficult, but i think muscle weakness is only a small reason for that and the main issue is the ankle pins preventing the foot from bending sideways freely.

My body and face has regained weight, only my thigh (quad) muscles are still very noticably skinnier. So i feel less depressed about that.

So yeah i think i will recover faster than average,but i realize i have a long way to go until i will feel completely normal again.

[Moubgf]

There where periods in my LL journey where i felt really weak both physically and mentally over my situation, and seeing my legs becoming so skinny and losing overall weight over my body including my face made me even more depressed. (my face became gaunt for a while)

Because while i ate good food and 3 meals a day etc i didnt realize that my already very high metabolism would burn even more weight when the body is healing 2 broken legs. Well i did know about it but i didnt know it would make such a big difference.

Eventually i started taking protein shake supplements and eating some extra fast food, fruit and snacks in between my main meals to get my weight up a bit.

But overall mental stress and depression over the loneliness is the main hurdle in LL.

Right now physically im pretty good, my calves have regained their almost all of the muscle it seems and they feel pretty strong but probably not fully recovered yet (i have to take into account that the legs will feel slightly less agile because of carrying the weight from the fixators).


Walking inside and outside on flat ground feels easy already, but when walking outside on slopes and hills it felt very difficult, but i think muscle weakness is only a small reason for that and the main issue is the ankle pins preventing the foot from bending sideways freely.

My body and face has regained weight, only my thigh (quad) muscles are still very noticably skinnier. So i feel less depressed about that.

So yeah i think i will recover faster than average,but i realize i have a long way to go until i will feel completely normal again.

Do you think weed would have made it better during your stay?. Im not talking 24/7 smoking sessions here. Just generall "ok" i'vem done the psyo, the food, the general routine. Now i can relax with a joint and watch a series or what have you. Or maybe you had no time or effort to conduct in such activities. Because as you know time goes twice as fast when you are high. I might look into that and bring with me some green to keep me sain and possibly share it with some other LL's at the hospital.

[Wannabegiant]

Do you think weed would have made it better during your stay?. Im not talking 24/7 smoking sessions here. Just generall "ok" i'vem done the psyo, the food, the general routine. Now i can relax with a joint and watch a series or what have you. Or maybe you had no time or effort to conduct in such activities. Because as you know time goes twice as fast when you are high. I might look into that and bring with me some green to keep me sain and possibly share it with some other LL's at the hospital.

One thing though, im not sure smoking weed prior to having a surgery is recommended, now i didnt have narcosis (only local anesthesia) so it might not affect that any, but i think if you are a heavy weed smoker and have THC in high ammounts in your system it could affect the narcosis for the surgery, not 100% sure though. best to be safe and avoid it imo.

But yeah, i have tried weed before a few times, but for me it has been a hit or miss in terms of how it made me feel. Some times it made me feel good and relaxed and like you said i lost count of time. But other times it has made me depressed and kind of amplified my thoughts about sad events in my life..it made me focus on those things and enhance the negative feeling, so i was down for like several hours..

So i never considered using any of that during my LL, it was out of my reach anyway, the only dealers i know are some of my friends and i didnt want to reveal LL for them obviously.

I was never an experienced smoker so to speak, i have never tried regular cigarettes for example. Maybe you could handle it better but i dont even know how it would affect bone healing, maybe not at all but who knows.

[Taller]

I know you've said that you feel that LL has improved your proportions, which is awesome. But, how much do you think it has affected your proportions? As in, how noticeable is the change when looking at both your overall profile and, also, when looking just at you tibias?

[Wannabegiant]

I know you've said that you feel that LL has improved your proportions, which is awesome. But, how much do you think it has affected your proportions? As in, how noticeable is the change when looking at both your overall profile and, also, when looking just at you tibias?

I mean mainly when looking at my whole body, both in underwear and with all types of clothes, i had such long arms and wide shoulders, that i looked kind of weird in some clothes before LL (my wingspan must have been a lot longer than my height), but now it looks more balanced.

it also doesnt look unnatural at all when looking at just the tibias either, honestly looking at them now it would seem almost weird if they where 4.3 cm shorter which they where originally. They have retained their thickness too, but i never trained my calves, so when i start doing that in the gym i bet it will look even better. My Femurs are still substantially longer than my tibias.

[just_me]

Wannabegiant, How are you doing and when will you have your next X-ray taken?

[Wannabegiant]

Wannabegiant, How are you doing and when will you have your next X-ray taken?

Hey man, im doing perfectly fine physically, i feel like i have recovered a lot and have great mobility and full range of motion. Legs feel light and agile, walking is easy.

But mentally i feel so fkin bored, and im so restless, i want to get on with my life as soon as possible..But the depression is almost over because i feel like almost all the risk is over and i can clearly see the path to happiness is within my reach without any big obstacles left.

I will take x-rays this week and if im lucky i might get both frames removed sometime this month.

[Moubgf]

Hey man, im doing perfectly fine physically, i feel like i have recovered a lot and have great mobility and full range of motion. Legs feel light and agile, walking is easy.

But mentally i feel so f**kin bored, and im so restless, i want to get on with my life as soon as possible..But the depression is almost over because i feel like almost all the risk is over and i can clearly see the path to happiness is within my reach without any big obstacles left.

I will take x-rays this week and if im lucky i might get both frames removed sometime this month.

How can you be bored though?

Isn't there like 4 months of lengthening then you go home and recover. But you can go outside with crutches or take a little walk being 7+ cm taller with shoes on that. I'd be in heaven every day. Depression would instantly go away. I dont get it..

[RGKEY]

Hey man, im doing perfectly fine physically, i feel like i have recovered a lot and have great mobility and full range of motion. Legs feel light and agile, walking is easy.

But mentally i feel so f**kin bored, and im so restless, i want to get on with my life as soon as possible..But the depression is almost over because i feel like almost all the risk is over and i can clearly see the path to happiness is within my reach without any big obstacles left.

I will take x-rays this week and if im lucky i might get both frames removed sometime this month.

that is great news my friend! hang in there, and you will recover so fast because you lengthened very little!)) ull be back to your life in no time!!

[Wannabegiant]

How can you be bored though?

Isn't there like 4 months of lengthening then you go home and recover. But you can go outside with crutches or take a little walk being 7+ cm taller with shoes on that. I'd be in heaven every day. Depression would instantly go away. I dont get it..

Im bored because im avoiding going outside as much as i can, since i didnt want anybody who knew me to see me with crutches and walking like im injured, also the frames are quite hard to hide 100%.  I dont want anybody i know to find out, and when they see me taller, if they had seen me with injured legs earlier  they might figure it out you know.

i only take walks basically late in the evening, and those trips to the hospital for x-rays etc.

I also cannot work out because it might slow down consolidation, and i cannot socialise with my friends..i cant get on with my life until this is done and it is so frustrating.

[Moubgf]

Im bored because im avoiding going outside as much as i can, since i didnt want anybody who knew me to see me with crutches and walking like im injured, also the frames are quite hard to hide 100%.  I dont want anybody i know to find out, and when they see me taller, if they had seen me with injured legs earlier  they might figure it out you know.

i only take walks basically late in the evening, and those trips to the hospital for x-rays etc.

I also cannot work out because it might slow down consolidation, and i cannot socialise with my friends..i cant get on with my life until this is done and it is so frustrating.

Why didnt you do LON?

[Wannabegiant]

that is great news my friend! hang in there, and you will recover so fast because you lengthened very little!)) ull be back to your life in no time!!

Thanks man, i appreciate your support, i think so too actually, i can actually easily see myself being back to sports some time next year at this rate  I dont really feel any muscle weakness even though my quads are still visibly smaller than before, i have to work on that a lot as soon as im able to 

[Wannabegiant]

Why didnt you do LON?

The high risk of knee pain isnt worth it imo, also the doctor i went to doesnt do LON, its also cheaper with exfix only.

I also find the idea of having a long metal bar inside my bones quite unsettling, and i would have to wait over a year to remove them, i prefer getting rid of it all at once.

[Moubgf]

The high risk of knee pain isnt worth it imo, also the doctor i went to doesnt do LON, its also cheaper with exfix only.

I also find the idea of having a long metal bar inside my bones quite unsettling, and i would have to wait over a year to remove them, i prefer getting rid of it all at once.

Still doing monoroil* must be soul crushing. having them on for 7 months!. Im doing LON on tibia i see no other way.

[Wannabegiant]

Still doing monoroil* must be soul crushing. having them on for 7 months!. Im doing LON on tibia i see no other way.

i used ilizarov not monorail, but yeah it is extremely hard mentally for sure. LON is probably worth it if they could fix the knee pain thing, i think i saw a topic here mentioning different methods of inserting the nails, and one of them could possibly avoid the knee problems.

[Wannabegiant]

Big update:

I had x-rays taken yesterday, i didnt get to meet my doctor in person though since he was busy. But he had time to look at them and email me his thoughts. He says my right leg is completely healed and it would be possible to remove that frame right away. My left leg was almost fully healed, and it would be possible to loosen the pins right away.

Now i didnt get to see the x-rays myself yet but he will send them to me. And I already had a planned appointment with the doctor 29:th of this month, but by that time my left leg will most likely have healed fully as well, so im waiting for his response if we will schedule an earlier meeting and remove one frame and loosen the pins on the other, or prepare to remove both frames at the same time at the planned meeting on the 29:th.

Anyway i feel very recovered and here is a video link showing how i can move. Just to make a certain whining crybaby be quiet and sit in the corner (everyone knows who im talking about including himself) il post this link and i will remove it in 3 days or so.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3v7wl073oh0ciso/Video%202014-09-09%2020%2038%2051.mov?dl=0

btw make sure to turn up the sound so you can hear me step dancing, to get a better idea how fast my legs can move already.

[Uppland]

Sorry for the late response I saw a movie -"Edge of tomorrow" it's downloadable in hd pretty good recommended.

Anyway you're walking like a boss, the stairs seemed kind of rough but hey, I'm always careful in narrow stairs and my legs aren't broken.
Understand you didn't want to post a video -rest assuared I have no idea who you are, might be santa for all I know.
If you ever feel up for more video clips just know that it would be appreciated.

[Wannabegiant]

Sorry for the late response I saw a movie -"Edge of tomorrow" it's downloadable in hd pretty good recommended.

Anyway you're walking like a boss, the stairs seemed kind of rough but hey, I'm always careful in narrow stairs and my legs aren't broken.
Understand you didn't want to post a video -rest assuared I have no idea who you are, might be santa for all I know.
If you ever feel up for more video clips just know that it would be appreciated.

No worries mate, thanks for the tip, ive been waiting for a torrent for that movie for some time now, have heard pretty good things about it. Gonna download it now actually 

Thanks, its very easy to walk, and the stairs are easy but of course i was careful since i was filming at the same time and dont want to risk stumbling. I can walk very fast actually, and from this angle it might look like my gait is a bit short, but it feels pretty much the same compared to before LL, i think my gait is the same, only it might look like my bodyframe is moving a shorter distance forward compared to before since im taller. I could easily take longer steps though if i wanted but then that is not how you walk naturally :p

[Uppland]

Kickasstorrents.com -no viruses.

Emily blunt is a hot piece of ass. Not very good looking to be honest but she has that "je ne sais pas" you know?

What's "gait" though?
It looked like you were doing baby steps but that's what it looks like when looking down apparently I tried it myself.

[Wannabegiant]

Kickasstorrents.com -no viruses.

Emily blunt is a hot piece of ass. Not very good looking to be honest but she has that "je ne sais pas" you know?

What's "gait" though?
It looked like you were doing baby steps but that's what it looks like when looking down apparently I tried it myself.

Nice but dont you need a membership from those kinds of sites? i always use piratebay personally :p Maybe its not out available there yet though.

Agreed about that gal, i dont typically think her look is ideal but in the trailers ive seen from this movie she was very attractive. She looks tough maybe thats what does it, but i dunno 

The gait is the steps you take when walking or running, how the legs move when going forward. Of course the gait is different from walking and running. But the gait when walking is mostly dependent on how long the femur is.

As you said, in my video the steps look a bit short, but that is how it looks like when viewing it from that upward angle, im certain it looked the same before LL, except for the fact that im taller (head further away from the floor) so the feet look smaller and it looks like they are traveling a smaller distance forward because of that :p When i look at myself walking next to a body mirror, it looks completely normal though.

[RGKEY]

looks fine brother. does your doctor do femurs at all?

[Wannabegiant]

looks fine brother. does your doctor do femurs at all?

Thanks man! Im pretty sure he doesnt :p if you want to do femurs in Russia i think the doctor which exclicide went to in St Petersburg is the best option, and probably the only one listed on this forum.

[just_me]

Hey Wannabegiants. I have five questions:
1) You was operated 1. March. Have you broken any pins in your Ilizarov devices until today?
2)  How many infections at your pin sites have you had until today?
3) When you had an infection at a pin site what did you precisely to treat the infection?
4) Did you eat any raw garlic when you had infections?
5) When you had an infection at a pin site approximately how many days did it take until you got rid of the infection? 

[Taller]

Do you know any information about Dr. Bagirov's possible guesthouse setup in Azerbaijan?

[Wannabegiant]

Hey Wannabegiants. I have five questions:
1) You was operated 1. March. Have you broken any pins in your Ilizarov devices until today?
2)  How many infections at your pin sites have you had until today?
3) When you had an infection at a pin site what did you precisely to treat the infection?
4) Did you eat any raw garlic when you had infections?
5) When you had an infection at a pin site approximately how many days did it take until you got rid of the infection?

1. Never broke any pins, they felt very stable actually, i think a few of the thinner ones bended a little bit but they didnt look like they where even close to breaking. However i only weighted around 65 kilos and lower during most of the LL period.

2. Only had one infection, and it happened right before i was done lengthening, if it hurts bad you are supposed to slow down the lengthening rate during an infection.

3. I put on some ointment around the infected pinsite, which i bought from the clinic, it contained anti-biotics. and i tried to avoid walking as much as i could.

4. No.

5. Cant really remember, probably a week or slightly more, but even after the pain was gone my knee remained stiff for quite a long while after, and that didnt stop until i was done lengthening. Then after that the stiffness went away in like 2 days.

[Wannabegiant]

Do you know any information about Dr. Bagirov's possible guesthouse setup in Armenia?

I assume you mean Azerbaijan, but i dont have much information at all about it.. i think the price was slightly lower to do the surgery in Baku in azerbaijan, and the guesthouse is definitely cheaper than the hospital room in Moscow, but by how much im not sure. Dr Bagirov only comes to Baku once ever month though if i recall correctly.

[just_me]

Since your operation how many times have you clean your pin sites and changed the gaze bandages. And how do you clean your pin sites - Do you use 0.2 percent chlorhexidine spray to do it?

[Samuimw]

Wow this seems ok for my budget , but with this price is it trustable ?

My height 165-164 looking forward to lengthen tibia 7 cm. I'm 22 years old.  I will take a closer look , Thank you for the post

[Uppland]

How are you feeling now WNB?

Hope everything is going according to plan.

[ItsMyLife]

I might be going to Dr bagirov in dec

How is the aftercare? Thanks

[Wannabegiant]

How are you feeling now WNB?

Hope everything is going according to plan.

Well not really 

I had surgery 2 days ago and removed my right frame, but the doctor claimed that while my left leg might be able to be strong enough for frame removal, there is a slight risk of it bending still because the callus wasnt thick enough on the front in their opinion. So they wanted me to wait approximately another month until i can remove it 

But to my surprise they say i am allowed to put full weight onto my frame free right leg right away, i was under the impression that you would need to be careful for a few weeks and use crutches after frame removal. This makes me believe that the reason i have had to wait so long is because they rather remove the frames here when there is no risk left for the bone bending and such. My right leg was ready for frame removal over a month ago so it makes sense.

This sucks because i already told some of my friends i would be home in oktober, now i probably wont be able to meet them until november, i also already paid tickets for a cruize which me and my friends where supposed to go to in oktober as well and now i lose that money for nothing..

The last week ive spent time using the Tinder and Badoo apps, and ive got quite a lot (like 15 currently) matches with girls who are all in the 6-9 range of hotness (sadly many of them are 18 only  )

This helps my confidence and is a good way to spend the time but its getting problematic keeping some of the girls ive been chatting with interested since i cant ask them on a date yet until im done with LL, so this makes it stressful when it is supposed to be fun.