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[spyratoss]

Anyone here have this done at age 45?  Recently divorced and going through midlife crisis trying to navigate dating websites.  It blows being 5'6".  I'm aware of the risks and am willing to deal with them but the expense and possibility of losing a decent job, not to mention the money outlay, is making me pause.  I'm thinking Guichet but he emailed me his average increase is 2.68".  Really?  Doesn't seem worth it.  Can people chime in if I'm thinking of this the wrong way?  I need a push to see the positive.  Thanks, new to this forum

[chineseguy]

never thought someone qt 40+ wants ll.    you shouldnt get it.       risk is high at your age

[YellowSpike]

This is partially why I refuse to enter another relationship until I do my second LL.

The problem with being short is that (even without knowing it) you end up trapped in relationships. I had a very attractive gf for 5 years, and boy did I try to keep her (I knew it would be much harder to find everything I want in a woman, looks and personality, since I was and still am ridiculously short). If you're divorced/dumped (even if you're the dumper), it's a very rude awakening to have to date again being short. Women have always cared about height, but they have it way too easy these days, so being short is already 2.5 strikes against you (sometimes 3, and the conversation doesn't even begin). When it comes to dating, women (assuming they're at least a bit above average looking) have the power, make no mistake.

But I agree with you...I was able to pull it off once and get to a solid 5'8", and was lucky to be able to hang onto my job while doing it. I'm not so sure I'll be able to pull this off again without heaving to give up my job. If it weren't for that, I'd have no reservations about doing it again.

[treemonger]

never thought someone qt 40+ wants ll.    you shouldnt get it.       risk is high at your age

Why are you saying this kind of  ? Should say nothing at all if you are going to be negative.

[treemonger]

@spyratoss

I reccommend you read OldieButGoldie's diary. Sure you are more likely to have complications at your age, but he was also 45 years old, 173cm and had a relatively uncomplicated lengthening with Betz. He has mixed feelings about the surgery, but he does not regret it.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=286.0

[Smallguy]

Yellow - I agree. Depending on where you live, women get the upper-hand these days in my city. They ask for too much but have little to offer. It's an arkward feeling have a better chest and booty than the chick I'm dating (I go to the gym) (

Chineseguy - Well, there are some people who rather die than being short. It depends.

Spyratoss - I don't know anything about you to chime. Are you rich? Healthy? Job's situation? Mental's toughness? Maybe you should talk to someone personally who actually knows more about you than to seek random online advice. We don't know enough about you to give you advice.

[5.7to5.9]

I was once told and believe in you are as old as how fit your body is and how you maintain it. 45 in my opinion is not even middle age and in certain countries can be even considered a young man

[spyratoss]

Well, got a stable job and about 2/3rds there with money. I want to do Guichet and I think he doesn't have a cut-off until sixty if I recall one of his early emails.  Does anyone know?  Being a contractor, I could always get my job back if i make it seem like I'm gonna be out for cancer or something major.  Good questions though Smallguy.  I'm 5'6" and 5'8" - 5'9" would be reasonable w/femoral lengthening. Otherwise, I'm in great health. 

[spyratoss]

Really?  The risks are that much higher?  I'm fairly athletic, but damn, if that excludes me that would suck.

[spyratoss]

Good start, thanks. I"m not expecting to heal like a twenty year old, but I've done my share of triathlons, weight lift, bike, swim, etc.  Healthier than many younger dudes.  I would think that being older also means that some more desperate older women that are single or MILFs might give me more of a chance.  I'm not looking to club at my age but would be nice to be 5'8" or 5'9" with a decent heel; one less thing to worry about. 

[Smallguy]

I meant LL is a serious decision, both financially and health.

It's hard to tell you to go ahead with LL based on a few facts you wrote here. Personally, I would go meet a friend who you trust and who could provide good advice. And tell him or her about your situation and see what they say. Often time, they would tell you, you're f*king crazy. But maybe they are right. If even after hearing that, you still think about LL, then you're a possible candidate for LL.

In my opinion, LL is quite a niche market which is not as popular and well-known as other cosmetic surgeries out there due to the health risk involved, expenses and time-commitment.

I can only speak for myself. If I was in my 40s with some money to spare and have few obligations, and divorced a woman who criticized me for my stature, and felt my height is holding me back... and I'm a non-smoker and healthy, sure, I will go for LL! But I can only speak for myself

If you want, you can add me on a chat-app and we can talk over the phone.

[Ozymandias]

I remember a study about the performance of the Fitbone nail in which the age of the patients ranged from maybe 8 years old up to 55 years old (I don't remember the exact number). I guess it would be similar to other internals (Precice, Guichet...)

So I think that yes, if you are healthy and non-smoker you can do it. Maybe you will heal slower than someone on his 20s, but if you have time (and money) that is not necessarily a huge problem.

[DoingItForMe]

OldieButGoldie is a diary you should read in detail if you want a grasp of what it's like to get LL at that age. OldieButGoldie was an active soccer player, so he was healthy as well, but also around your age.

When I was at the hotel near Dr. Paley, there was someone in his 50s who did LL. He had no issues and recovered just fine. There was also a runner in his 50s who did four segments. He claimed to be running again after a year, and stopped by Dr. Paley to remove the nails in his legs. But seemed very happy about their surgery. Good luck!

If you're doing 3 inches or so, expect a downtime of at least 6 months. I wouldn't recommend going past 3 inches. And the reason why doctors average 2.5" is not because of the doctor, but because of the patient. Some patients quit early because of the pain or their bodies can't handle the lengthening.

And according to Dr. Paley, anyone past 30 can expect a slow recovery. He said that once people reach around 35, their bodies don't recover as well as they're used to. This is why you don't see many pro athletes at this age. If you have time and money on your hands, I say go for it. I went from 5'6" to 5'9" and couldn't be happier about the new height. But if you can't afford to lose 6 months of your life and about $100k, then I wouldn't consider it. The price you pay for it is not worth it. There are happier things to do with $100k and 6 months of your time.

At that age group, do women still care about height? I thought that women around that age would care more about financial stability at that point.

[spyratoss]

Right on Smallguy.  Similar situation as me.  Yes, let's talk.  I'm thinking by end of 2016.  At this point, what the hell.  I'm not buying a house anytime soon since the divorce and not looking to be competitive anymore, just keep in shape.  I'll be psyched with 5 8", def 5 9".  Good questions, and predictably, everyone says the same crap.....you're nuts, work on other things, etc.   But even older women are concerned with the same BS.   I have a great job, dress well, and his looking dude, but chicks would rather date a tall, uneducated tool instead. 

[spyratoss]

Good points, thanks.  Still on the fence

[spyratoss]

That's, I did read it but came away more confused.   My other fear is, nothing changes for me socially, not just women

[spyratoss]

I thought that too about women, but you'll be surprised at the haughty cougars, most of whom look like   anyeaym.  Women want height but don't look in the mirror to see how soft and washed out they look .   

[DoingItForMe]

That's, I did read it but came away more confused.   My other fear is, nothing changes for me socially, not just women

I wouldn't recommend doing it just for dating purposes or for any social aspect. 1/3 of women don't care about height. Sure, by getting taller, you're increasing the odds, but the cost of doing so is significant. You will feel like a fool for having to go through this much trouble to please someone's shallowness. I would only recommend doing it if you really can't stand being short, have money to throw away without getting into financial burden, and after you research on what you're getting yourself into. It took me 2 years before I finally made my decision to do LL. I was also in a long-term relationship when I made my decision. My reason for getting LL was purely because I couldn't stand looking at myself as short guy. But if the actual reasoning was for dating purposes, I'd probably regret the surgery. No woman is worth spending $100k and 6 months of my life for when there are perfectly great women out there who wouldn't mind dating a 5'6" guy. There's actually someone who I like from out of state who didn't mind my height prior to surgery. Now that I'm single again, I can finally date her. And I could be dating her right now, but instead I'm stuck at home in a wheelchair. So in a way, LL actually prevented me from getting a date. I also partially blame LL surgery as the reason why my long term gf broke up with me. I think she lost respect for me for doing this surgery.

Anyway, it feels great to be taller. I can finally look at the mirror and smile instead of frown at my height. It's quite a life-changing experience. My friends all treat me the same way, short or tall. So the social aspect didn't change much if that's what you wanted to know. As for women, yes, I do notice a difference from when I was short vs tall. When you're short, some women don't want to even give you a chance to talk to them. But most of the time, these are crappy women anyway.

[Sweden]

You can do it but don't do more than 5cm on tibias. 7cm on femurs. If you do more you'll look like a spider.

Do it for yourself and not some lady. Apparently you made it through life being short, but anyone in here fully understand why you seek advice to get taller.

[spyratoss]

Thanks for the thorough discussion of the social aspects.  At 5'6", it was harder to walk up to women in a club, but I could care less now because that's no longer my demographic. These are not the type of women for long term relationships anyway, but if all you care about is getting laid, $80k will buy you a lot of escorts .  Or just fly to Asia where it doesn't matter as much.  Being older, I really do have to think about this .  People definitely treat you differently.  So much to think about.  I'm also concerned about having less physical capability post op due to loss on possible strength , etc.  I'm almost there savings wise, I just need to decide if 80-100k is worth it for me

[spyratoss]

Thanks Sweden, the fear of ending up alone I guess, but out of a couple of billion women, all want taker men?  Western society is so full of crap

[DoingItForMe]

Everyone has a fear of being alone, but how can you fear this when you just got out of a long term relationship? You just proved that you're capable to getting someone to date you. Not all women need to date tall men. If that were the case, then the shorter half of the world's men would all be single.

Or just fly to Asia where it doesn't matter as much.

You're wrong about this. Height matters in Asia as well. Bosses in China are usually taller. Asian women still prefer taller men, because they want their kids to be tall. It's just easier for a Western man to get dates in Asia for 4 reasons:
1) They assume you have money
2) They assume that you will treat them better, because men in Asia tend to want their wives obedient
3) The average Asian man is shorter than the average Western man
4) They grew up watching western men in movies

[spyratoss]

More to think about.  True about China, where even the women are doing LL.  But isn't it banned there ?  Possibly thinking of Philippines.

[DoingItForMe]

More to think about.  True about China, where even the women are doing LL.  But isn't it banned there ?  Possibly thinking of Philippines.

Yea, it's illegal in China to get LL. But it doesn't stop back alley surgeries from happening.

[OldieButGoldie]

never thought someone qt 40+ wants ll.    you shouldnt get it.       risk is high at your age

nonsense.

[spyratoss]

Thanks for responding.   I read your blog. I'm 168 cm and wish to gain 7 or so cm.  Sounds like you did good.  Being freshly divorced , I could use a bump.   You would do it over ? 

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Yea, it's illegal in China to get LL. But it doesn't stop back alley surgeries from happening.

It's not illegal in a few select hospitals that are licensed to do it.  Dr. Peng at Rehabilitation Hospital is legit.

[Ghostfish]

Hi spyratoss

I am not an consultant or psychologist to ask you why you want to do ll or whether you need to do it or not.  I can only tell that age of 40s is not the end of ll.  As other people mentioned, people at 50s also did ll.  I also read a diary from a guy who actually did the second ll at 50s while the first one was done at 40s.  Of course, as you can imagine, the recovery will be a little slower but the complication is all case by case.  Most of time, at your age, more concern is time and job, as you already mentioned.  As long as you can afford your money and time and manage your job or career, you can go for it.  It is your life.  You have the right to choose and to be happy!
Cheers,

[OldieButGoldie]

Thanks for responding.   I read your blog. I'm 168 cm and wish to gain 7 or so cm.  Sounds like you did good.  Being freshly divorced , I could use a bump.   You would do it over ?

I don't regret it but I would not do it over again.
Meaning: if time would switch back 2,5 years, and I was 45 again and 173cm, I would not do LL.

It's all psychological, it's all in your head. There are better ways to become happy and content with your life than doing LL.

For some people LL might be great and change their life but the vast majority either has nasty complications or realizes that a few inches more might make them taller but not necessarily happier.

[spyratoss]

Thanks for that perspective.  Ive also suffered some past sports injuries so who knows how capable my recovery would be.   You have me pause for thought. 80k buys a lot of vacations.  But my recent, sudden single status and age has made me worried.  Even dating some single mothers has been exasperating
   It's not the only reason, though, I get that .

[Sweden]

I don't regret it but I would not do it over again.
Meaning: if time would switch back 2,5 years, and I was 45 again and 173cm, I would not do LL.

It's all psychological, it's all in your head. There are better ways to become happy and content with your life than doing LL.

For some people LL might be great and change their life but the vast majority either has nasty complications or realizes that a few inches more might make them taller but not necessarily happier.

I can relate to this.

It's mostly in your head.

But still - you can only do a first impression one time.......