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[spaghetti743]

On the bodybuilding forum MISC someone posted an article where some researchers claim there is a height ceiling. A height ceiling meaning at a certain height men are less fit and less attractive. The researches placed the height ceiling at 6'0. Meaning anything above 6'0 tall reduces fitness and attractiveness in men. If this is true the best height for a man would be 5'11-6'0. Thoughts?

[Penguinn]

I think it would be dumb to argue on something so subjective.

But the consensus seems to be 6' to 6'2 as the dream male height.

[DoingItForMe]

I think it would be dumb to argue on something so subjective.

But the consensus seems to be 6' to 6'2 as the dream male height.

Do you have a scientific study that shows this? According to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness#Height_and_erect_posture The ideal male height is 5'9"-5'11". The study can be read here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-6494.1978.tb00606.x/abstract;jsessionid=666266905539D1A40FEB38FF3B3C35BE.f03t03

Quote from the study: On the basis of previous research, it was predicted that women's attraction to the men would be an increasing linear function of the men's height. This prediction was not confirmed; men of medium height were seen to be significantly more socially desirable than either short or tall men. This was true whether the female evaluator was short, medium, or tall; women did not differ in their evaluations.

My other research shows that the ideal height difference is 9% or around 6 inches. So the average woman, who's 5'4" (163 cm) would be most attracted to someone who's 5'10" (178 cm). But 70% of women just want someone as tall or taller than them. And around 35% don't care about height.

[Deads]

Do you have a scientific study that shows this? According to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness#Height_and_erect_posture The ideal male height is 5'9"-5'11". The study can be read here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-6494.1978.tb00606.x/abstract;jsessionid=666266905539D1A40FEB38FF3B3C35BE.f03t03

Quote from the study: On the basis of previous research, it was predicted that women's attraction to the men would be an increasing linear function of the men's height. This prediction was not confirmed; men of medium height were seen to be significantly more socially desirable than either short or tall men. This was true whether the female evaluator was short, medium, or tall; women did not differ in their evaluations.

My other research shows that the ideal height difference is 9% or around 6 inches. So the average woman, who's 5'4" (163 cm) would be most attracted to someone who's 5'10" (178 cm). But 70% of women just want someone as tall or taller than them. And around 35% don't care about height.

My lady is in the category where she places little emphasis on height.. She's said that she wouldn't want someone extremely shorter than her, but she doesn't mind if the guy is tad shorter.

I really think that all this research and stuff is way over thinking it. The average height for a woman in Australia is 5"3. Most guys on here would be at least the same height or maybe a fraction shorter.. There is a small percentage of women that place a huge emphasis on height, but it's rare.. Most women that I have had contact with are happy with someone of equal height to them.. At 5"6 I'm taller or equal to most women I come into contact with.. You honestly don't need to be tall or even of average height to have success with the opposite sex.. I can understand why guys around 5"2-5"3 would want to increase their height.. You would feel more masculine and confident being at least as tall as the women you surround yourself with..... But I keep finding that lots of statistics keep getting posted about the ideal height for women bla bla.. There are heaps of guys under average height who have success. Most women don't care as long as you're of equal height to them. You're just putting unnecessary insecurities in your head which will only hinder your abilities to show your attractive qualities.

[Deads]

Oh and FYI... Just thought I'd add in. I used to hang around a bunch of guys ranging from 6"- 6"2. I don't hang out with them anymore because (to put it nicely) they aren't going anywhere in life.. They sit at home smoking weed and playing video games. They rarely go out and socialise.. They're all not bad looking.. I would take pride in my appearance, get out in the sun regularly so I had a good glow about me, went to the gym and had a good bod. Went out regularly and socialised. I would push myself socially. For example, if the idea of going up and starting a conversation with a group of girls felt uncomfortable. I went out and did it.

My success with women and in general socially was great! Not to boast, but before I became exclusive with my gf, I was sleeping with a new woman every 3-4 weeks. My "friends" had very little (and some had zero) success and their self esteem sucked. So jam that into your statistics. A 5"6 guy having more success with women and in general socially than his 6"+ mates.

When it comes to women height is over rated.

[spaghetti743]

Height may be overrated in the real world once you hit average height. However, it is very important in the online dating world. Eventually most couples will be meeting online, instead of real life.

[Deads]

Height may be overrated in the real world once you hit average height. However, it is very important in the online dating world. Eventually most couples will be meeting online, instead of real life.

There will always be opportunities in real life to meet a new woman.. stop obsessing over trivial things.... If height is so important in the dating world then go out and meet someone for real!

Online dating blows anyway.

[spaghetti743]

I'm speaking in very general terms. My goal is to find the perfect height for a man with the most advantages and least disadvantages. Dating is a very minuscule part of the equation, and i'm not single so your advise won't do me any good. Cheers.

[Uppland]

I'm speaking in very general terms. My goal is to find the perfect height for a man with the most advantages and least disadvantages. Dating is a very minuscule part of the equation, and i'm not single so your advise won't do me any good. Cheers.

The perfect height is tall, around 8-9 cm above the average. If I could pick a height I would choose 191.

Very content range would for me be 183+

Assuming a good build and proportions.

[Deads]

I'm speaking in very general terms. My goal is to find the perfect height for a man with the most advantages and least disadvantages. Dating is a very minuscule part of the equation, and i'm not single so your advise won't do me any good. Cheers.

The point I'm making is.. There is no 'perfect height'

[KiloKAHN]

Shorter people are better for the environment (consume less resources), develop fewer health problems, and live longer than tall people, generally speaking. Great height is really only advantageous socially - I mean ever since guns and other weapons were brought into the equation, the physical advantages of being tall only really apply in organized sports. But the social advantage that height brings is huge, and I think most people would take the disadvantageous of being tall if they could have the height since the benefits are primarily social, and humans are social creatures.

[DoingItForMe]

Oh and FYI... Just thought I'd add in. I used to hang around a bunch of guys ranging from 6"- 6"2. I don't hang out with them anymore because (to put it nicely) they aren't going anywhere in life.. They sit at home smoking weed and playing video games. They rarely go out and socialise.. They're all not bad looking.. I would take pride in my appearance, get out in the sun regularly so I had a good glow about me, went to the gym and had a good bod. Went out regularly and socialised. I would push myself socially. For example, if the idea of going up and starting a conversation with a group of girls felt uncomfortable. I went out and did it.

My success with women and in general socially was great! Not to boast, but before I became exclusive with my gf, I was sleeping with a new woman every 3-4 weeks. My "friends" had very little (and some had zero) success and their self esteem sucked. So jam that into your statistics. A 5"6 guy having more success with women and in general socially than his 6"+ mates.

When it comes to women height is over rated.

I want to add that my experience has been the same. When I was 5'5"-5'6" I didn't have much problems with success and women. I didn't sleep with a new woman every few weeks, but I never had much of a gap between girlfriends. Girls were just lining up to be with someone who's successful and has a lot going on in his life. The only time I think my height is a disadvantage is when a girl is taller than me and doesn't give me a chance. BUT, it didn't matter, because there were plenty of other girls who didn't mind my height. This is why I warn people considering LL to not do it to get dates. If you can't get dates when you're short, then it probably will not make much difference when you're taller.

[spaghetti743]

Uppland,

In your opinion the best height is 8+cm above average.

In U.s average is about 177cm, meaning 185 would be perfect range. When you put on shoes you would be around 188cm. Then should 182cm be perfect range to account for shoe increase?


When I first joined here I thought 6'1 was the perfect height, however there seems to be many people more informed then me claiming above 6'0 is redundant.

[Uppland]

Uppland,

In your opinion the best height is 8+cm above average.

In U.s average is about 177cm, meaning 185 would be perfect range. When you put on shoes you would be around 188cm. Then should 182cm be perfect range to account for shoe increase?


When I first joined here I thought 6'1 was the perfect height, however there seems to be many people more informed then me claiming above 6'0 is redundant.

Not like there is one "ideal" height but yes 8 cm above average would be comfortably tall and overall very "good". People that say anything above ' is redunt mean that being 183 cm tall is enough, i.e at that height you would not have to worry about being short.

[Alittletooshort]

Everything above 180 is fine imo. Many women consider your height accetable once you hit the magical 8 instead of 7 as the second digit. So the difference between 179 and 180 is bigger than any height increase above that.
I'd personally be happy with 183, since it's a realistic goal without having to suffer from a large loss of atlethicsm or proportions.

[pablo1989]

I comletely agree with Alittletooshort. Everything above 180 cm is fine. You are taller than approximately 60% of men and you are starting to be considerably taller then almost every woman.

Perfect height for me would be in range 183 - 185 cm. I love sport and I noticed that most best athletes fall into this range. In NFL combine players who have this height are doing great results in bench press, vert jump and brad jump. After about 185 your athleticism is getting worse. Size is not enough because strength comes also from the nerve system(explosiveness) which is getting worse as height increase. I don't even consider very tall people(>190) very attractive.

Uppland have you ever played any sport? Why do you think 191 is the perfect height? Just for the sake of being taller that almost every man? I am just curious.

[Uppland]

I comletely agree with Alittletooshort. Everything above 180 cm is fine. You are taller than approximately 60% of men and you are starting to be considerably taller then almost every woman.

Perfect height for me would be in range 183 - 185 cm. I love sport and I noticed that most best athletes fall into this range. In NFL combine players who have this height are doing great results in bench press, vert jump and brad jump. After about 185 your athleticism is getting worse. Size is not enough because strength comes also from the nerve system(explosiveness) which is getting worse as height increase. I don't even consider very tall people(>190) very attractive.

Uppland have you ever played any sport? Why do you think 191 is the perfect height? Just for the sake of being taller that almost every man? I am just curious.

It's because I'm from Sweden and have an inflated sense of height, a 190 cm man will not tower people where I live but he would be comfortably tall. I do not play sports but aren't many athletes tall as well?

[ShortandStubborn]

The average height for a woman in Australia is 5"3. At 5"6 I'm taller or equal to most women I come into contact with..

I'm not sure how's that possible. I'm 5'5'' and I've interacted with quite a few Aussies in Thailand, a significant amount of Aussie girls were taller than I - 40 to 50% of the girls probably - The tall ones were in the range of 5'6'' to 5'9''. Don't recall EVER coming across an Aussie Man as short as I, i.e. 5'5''. Most of the Men were well built and in the range of 5'11' to 6'. Girls, generally, were beautiful and slim. Although the Aussie guys, in general, were tall but there was this guy, a Plumber from some town near Melbourne, standing at 6'2''(I asked him) and when I compared him to other guys(Russians, Germans, Britons and Aussies), the guy stood out among the crowd. Ad I agree with the rest of your post. As long as I'm as tall as the girl, I'm least bothered by her height. Problem is the heels girls wear. Girls, on average, wear heels 6 to 10 CM - Men's shoes lift them 1 to 2 CM at most - So to be as tall as the girl outdoors, guy must be 2 to 3" taller than the girl and considering the average height of young western girl, I'd say my minimum target-height would be 5'10".

[Deads]

I'm not sure how's that possible. I'm 5'5'' and I've interacted with quite a few Aussies in Thailand, a significant amount of Aussie girls were taller than I - 40 to 50% of the girls probably - The tall ones were in the range of 5'6'' to 5'9''. Don't recall EVER coming across an Aussie Man as short as I, i.e. 5'5''. Most of the Men were well built and in the range of 5'11' to 6'. Girls, generally, were beautiful and slim. Although the Aussie guys, in general, were tall but there was this guy, a Plumber from some town near Melbourne, standing at 6'2''(I asked him) and when I compared him to other guys(Russians, Germans, Britons and Aussies), the guy stood out among the crowd. Ad I agree with the rest of your post. As long as I'm as tall as the girl, I'm least bothered by her height. Problem is the heels girls wear. Girls, on average, wear heels 6 to 10 CM - Men's shoes lift them 1 to 2 CM at most - So to be as tall as the girl outdoors, guy must be 2 to 3" taller than the girl and considering the average height of young western girl, I'd say my minimum target-height would be 5'10".

I got that info from the Australian Bureau of Statistics. It made sense to me cause I'm 5"6 and around 80% of women are shorter or of equal height to me. You get a good number of 5"7 to 5"8 girls but they and I don't really notice a height difference... Then there are the 5"9 to 5"10 girls, but they aren't as common.

Come to Queensland, Australia sometime. You'll see what I mean. Plenty of shorties.

[Adam.bax]

Just to add my bit in here,

I'm 201cm and that means that any tall girl 5ft10+ I've automatically got a date "I can wear heals with you" is the usual one.

Fortunatly for me my type of girl is 6ft blonde big boobs and I don't have any trouble pulling that at all.

The downside is that the average girl is about 5ft6 and I can often intimidate them. I've had a few girls 5ft1 sort of size say they could never date someone my size..

The thing where it comes in most though is with the other guys (no I'm not gay).. The bigger you are around a bunch of lads the more "respect" you get. It depends on the extent.. No one ever starts a fight with me.. Infact people deliberately walk over to tell me they wouldn't fight me.. Great if you wanna scare of other blokes but if your a 5ft4 petite girl it can be very intimidating..

On the other side there are still girls who love that I'm so huge.. On a night out I often get aproached and have girls ask how tall I am.. Then my hands size.. Then feet.. Then... Well you can guess.

Depends what your after..

As for athletics it depends on the sport.. I'll never be a gymnast or a body builder.. But worlds strongest man or basketball player? No problem.

Downside to being tall.. Putting on weight.. A shorter guy can go to the gym and get massive in no time and have a great squat/bench.. At my height it takes ages to get any noticeable gains in muscle and I often have to dirty bulk just to put any weight on at all.. My bench is crap (120kg) but my deadlift is fantastic (350kg)

[Alittletooshort]

The biggest downside of being tall is probably the significantly reduced lifespan. I've read that 10cm's above average equal to 6 years less. That's baisically the only real advantage of being short.
I'm sure that it must be pretty awesome to tower above everyone else, although I'd rather be 1,85 than 2m.

[Adam.bax]

Cheers for that...


Although I'm sure there's plenty of really tall old people..

[aspirant185]

Tennis stars Grigor Dimitrov (190) and Maria Sharapova (188) seem like a perfect couple. nevertheless, Maria still cannot wear heels because she would be taller than him .. I believe 190 is the perfect height for any man. Above that, sharply decreasing marginal returns.