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[Deads]

So I posted a pic on Imgur as suggested. I was wondering if someone could whip up a mockup pic for me? 5cm Fib, 4cm tib.

http://imgur.com/FBpuRlm

[Ghostfish]

Hi Deads

You have a great muscle and a good upper body! dude!
I think if you do ll within 10 cm on two segments or 7 cm on one segment (especially femurs), you will look great. 
Go for it!

[Penguinn]

This pic seems to have been taken from your upper body area and makes your legs look short. If this were your actual body, you could do 4 inches.

Awesome muscles by the way. I envy you.

[Alu]

At what level and angle was this picture taken at Deads? The best position to place a camera for this sort of thing would be at the waist level area to show a balance between legs and torso.

But based on the pics you do have a slight (emphasis on slight) long torso compared to your legs. At the same time your broad shoulders certainly help your image out as it won't make you look like a lanky dude. It makes it seem like your legs could handle a good amount of lengthening. But, when it comes to your arms I'm not to sure. Again all subjective, but in this picture your upper body certainly looks like it can handle LL.

[Deads]

Ghostfish; Thanks Ghost the picture actually makes my chest look flatter than it actually is. But based on my shoulders and back I feel like I could handle the 10cm too. Initially I was going to lengthen 5.5 fib and 4.5 tib.. Although for recovery reasons I'm leaning more towards 9cm (5cm fib and 4cm tib) so that I can stay at within the 5cm safe range for the fibs and keep my tibs on the lower end of the scale also.

Penguinn: I had my girlfriend get on her knees......... AND TAKE A PICTURE level with my crotch/hip area. We also made sure that the camera was facing straight on and wasn't at any angles. Believe it or not it is the most accurate depiction of my body. I've been told in the past I have short stumpy legs for my body.

Alu: yes definitely taken at hip height with no angles. My broad shoulders and back along with the slightly longer torso really give the perception that my legs are short and stumpy... When I'm at the gym and I catch a glance of myself in the mirror I feel like my height doesn't match my width.

[theuprising]

Torso length is great for LL. Arm length is the major concern.

[Deads]

Torso length is great for LL. Arm length is the major concern.

I took Doingitforme's advice and stood on something 9 cm tall.. My arms looked fine with the extra height.. Because everything else seems built for the extra height, the overall perception is good.

[DoingItForMe]

I took Doingitforme's advice and stood on something 9 cm tall.. My arms looked fine with the extra height.. Because everything else seems built for the extra height, the overall perception is good.

I think you will look great after 9 cm. Your proportions look like mine prior to my LL, and I only gained 8 cm. Your legs do look short and stumpy like mine used to be. They will look better after LL in my opinion. Also, instead of deciding your lengthening amount beforehand, just play it by the ear when you are actually lengthening. Your body will tell you when you are starting to get too tight. For me, I noticed it around the 5 cm mark on femurs. It could be different for you. Your safe range is what your body tells you it is. I noticed that I passed the safe range when my flexibility took a nosedive at around 6 cm. That's around the point where I knew that I probably did long term/permanent damage to my athleticism/flexibility. But, a lot of my flexibility did return to me 5 months post-op. So I do hold some hope that I could at least do some sports, even if I'm not going to be as good at it as I used to be.

[Alu]

I have to ask you then mate, disregarding the obvious fact that it's all subjective and not to get to caught up in a number game; what is your true inseam length?

[Deads]

77cm

[Infinity]

You are a good candidate for LL with long torso and short legs.

[Deads]

I think you will look great after 9 cm. Your proportions look like mine prior to my LL, and I only gained 8 cm. Your legs do look short and stumpy like mine used to be. They will look better after LL in my opinion. Also, instead of deciding your lengthening amount beforehand, just play it by the ear when you are actually lengthening. Your body will tell you when you are starting to get too tight. For me, I noticed it around the 5 cm mark on femurs. It could be different for you. Your safe range is what your body tells you it is. I noticed that I passed the safe range when my flexibility took a nosedive at around 6 cm. That's around the point where I knew that I probably did long term/permanent damage to my athleticism/flexibility. But, a lot of my flexibility did return to me 5 months post-op. So I do hold some hope that I could at least do some sports, even if I'm not going to be as good at it as I used to be.

Yeah I'll definitely play it by ear while lengthening.. I always told myself that I never wanted to go over 5cm for fibs and 4 for tibs. If I was unable to push myself in the gym due to limitations caused by lengthening, I would never forgive myself.

Thanks for the encoragement. I feel as though my thoughts on this have been reaffirmed.

[DoingItForMe]

Yeah I'll definitely play it by ear while lengthening.. I always told myself that I never wanted to go over 5cm for fibs and 4 for tibs. If I was unable to push myself in the gym due to limitations caused by lengthening, I would never forgive myself.

Thanks for the encoragement. I feel as though my thoughts on this have been reaffirmed.

If reading all these diaries including mine, OldieButGoldie, and ProgramDude doesn't stop you from doing LL, then go for it. You won't regret it. Maybe while lengthening, you might. But after it's all over and done with, most people are happy with the surgery.

[Deads]

You won't regret it. Maybe while lengthening, you might.

Ha that made me laugh.. I'm definitely going for it. I'm just in the process of starting up my online business. The goal is to have the funds within the next 12 months.

Thanks for the support

[DoingItForMe]

Ha that made me laugh.. I'm definitely going for it. I'm just in the process of starting up my online business. The goal is to have the funds within the next 12 months.

Thanks for the support

It's true, though. In a few of the diaries I read, there's a moment of regret during the lengthening or recovery period. I'd be lying if I didn't have that moment as well. There's this point where you wonder if you threw away a lot of money and time that you could have spent doing something else. A lot of my friends are out having vacations while I'm sitting at home waiting to be able to walk again. You feel like you're missing out on life. But then I remember that I'm no longer short anymore and then I'm happy again. What's also nice is that I have a greater appreciation of life and working legs. People tend to take things for granted until they lose them.

[Penguinn]

Here are your mockups.
http://i.imgur.com/Hyj4s67.jpg

Note: Remember not to compare them next to each other, that's because their alignment isn't in sync. Some pictures start off higher than others, so only examine them individually.

I also added an 8cm femur mockup which I think looks the best. Instead of doing 9cm in 2 surgeries you could easily do 8 in one, with short femurs like that.

Your arms look a bit short(but nothing you should worry about, seriously. Nobody will give a  ) but you haven't stretched them all the way down like others do in their pictures.

[Deads]

Here are your mockups.
http://i.imgur.com/Hyj4s67.jpg

Note: Remember not to compare them next to each other, that's because their alignment isn't in sync. Some pictures start off higher than others, so only examine them individually.

I also added an 8cm femur mockup which I think looks the best. Instead of doing 9cm in 2 surgeries you could easily do 8 in one, with short femurs like that.

Your arms look a bit short(but nothing you should worry about, seriously. Nobody will give a crap) but you haven't stretched them all the way down like others do in their pictures.

My man Penguinn! Thank you.

Hmm interesting. The 8cm mock-up looks surprisingly okay.. My fibs seem to lengthen well. Tibs look a touch off to me. But if I'm not looking backwards and forwards scrutinising the two pictures then the 9cm begins to look normal. In clothes it would look even better.

I wouldn't lengthen 8cm on one portion. I won't exceed 5cm on either portion.. I feel like tibs at 3cm would look perfect, but I find it hard justifying surgery for just 3cm on one portion.

Tell me what you guys think.

[Deads]

Penguinn, I was wondering if you could humour me and do a 5 fib 3 tib? I would very much appreciate it.

[Deads]

Penguinn, I was wondering if you could humour me and do a 5 fib 3 tib? I would very much appreciate it.

Actually, don't worry about it. I think I look fine at 177. When I put some size on my legs it will reduce how long and lanky they look... And of course I'll add extra size to my upper body.. Believe it or not, I don't currently train my shoulders, they get trained indirectly by everything else that I do.. I will work on widening my shoulders so that I can truely own the height.

[Penguinn]

Why would you not lengthen 8cm in one portion? A lot of problems(medical and visual) come because the femur becomes much longer than the tibia but that isn't a problem for you.

[Deads]

Why would you not lengthen 8cm in one portion? A lot of problems(medical and visual) come because the femur becomes much longer than the tibia but that isn't a problem for you.

I don't want to lengthen more than 5cm on any portion. Recovery after 8cm sucks and I need to regain as much athleticism back in my legs in order to achieve my goals in the gym.. I will have the money to do two surgeries so I'm going to put my health first and spread the lengthening out over the two portions.

[Alu]

I can completely agree with that goal. It's mine as well. I then have to ask you which doctor are you considering for this. I myself was wholeheartedly considering going the route Iamready is going with of QL with Palely, but considering the cost and the proven credibility of other doctors I'm not quite sure the cost would be worth it honestly. 

[Deads]

I can completely agree with that goal. It's mine as well. I then have to ask you which doctor are you considering for this. I myself was wholeheartedly considering going the route Iamready is going with of QL with Palely, but considering the cost and the proven credibility of other doctors I'm not quite sure the cost would be worth it honestly.

Dr Alex Monegal. Prices are great, the guy cares, he attends regular training and seminars with the manufacturers of Fitbone. Many success stories (haven't read anything bad yet). The hospital is practically brand new... And I guess I just get great vibes from him.

Two of his surgeries are only a little more than the cost of one surgery with Paley.. You also get more one on one time with Alex where as Paley is so successful that everyone wants a piece of him. Usually you are only talking to people who work under Paley.

[Devildog 0331]

My personal belief is that you could probably just lengthen 6.5-7cm in one segment and still look great.

[Sweden]

My personal belief is that you could probably just lengthen 6.5-7cm in one segment and still look great.

That is pushing it to the limit.

5cm looks alright, not good, in tibias.

With 7cm, your calf muscles will explode and if you ever have to sit on your knees you will sit on your calf muscles and your feet will stick out behind your butt.
It won't look good.

[Uppland]

All mock ups look bad, do one of 4 cm and one of 3 and see how it looks.

[Deads]

All mock ups look bad, do one of 4 cm and one of 3 and see how it looks.

I've already thought about that combination. It would probably look perfect.. But I know when I fill my legs out that they won't look so long and lanky with the 9cm.

Devil dog; if I was going to do one portion it would be 6 on the fibs.. But opted for 2 portions

[Uppland]

I've already thought about that combination. It would probably look perfect.. But I know when I fill my legs out that they won't look so long and lanky with the 9cm.

Devil dog; if I was going to do one portion it would be 6 on the fibs.. But opted for 2 portions

No I meant one where you lengthen 4 cm in one segment and another where you lengthen 3 cm.

This surgery will make you lankier but what I find to be the worst issue proportions wise is that your torso starts to look small even after just a few cm.

[Deads]

No I meant one where you lengthen 4 cm in one segment and another where you lengthen 3 cm.

This surgery will make you lankier but what I find to be the worst issue proportions wise is that your torso starts to look small even after just a few cm.

Yeah I know you meant a total of 7cm over two portions. I honestly think that 9cm will be fine. Especially when I build up my legs.. Torso looks ever so slightly short to me but not enough for people to point it out. Not even enough for me to be dissatisfied.

So.. I'm coming for you Uppland. You and me 5"10. (I know 177cm isn't 5"10. It's close enough though)

[Uppland]

Yeah I know you meant a total of 7cm over two portions. I honestly think that 9cm will be fine. Especially when I build up my legs.. Torso looks ever so slightly short to me but not enough for people to point it out. Not even enough for me to be dissatisfied.

So.. I'm coming for you Uppland. You and me 5"10. (I know 177cm isn't 5"10. It's close enough though)

One picture where you are 4 cm taller and one where you are 3 cm taller. 7 cm will screw with your proportions and athleticism my friend.

[aspirant185]

I think the middle picture (5+4) look the best.

What is your initial height btw ?