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Want to be 5"10
« on: November 26, 2015, 09:50:57 AM »

Hey guys, so I want to be 5"10 (178cm) I'm currently 168cm.. My measurements are below. Tell me what you think of proportions and whether you think I could pull 5"10 off.

Height 168cm
Arm length 76cm
Inseam 77cm
Wingspan 169.5
Sitting height 90cm

Wing span is a tad shorter due to smaller hands. If I had bigger hands I would gain an extra couple of cms on my total wing span and arm length. People have always told me that my legs look shorter and stumpy compared to my body length. I hit the gym a lot and have fairly broad shoulders.

I look at people that are 5"9 (e.g my Dad) and they don't look that much taller than me. They are definitely taller but I feel that 5"10 is where people start to have a really solid height about them.

Give me your input on what you think would be achievable for me without looking too silly. One part of me says to just go for it, they other says to stick to 176cm due to the smaller wing span.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2015, 10:05:23 AM »

Is this one surgery on the femurs? If so, it's not really matter of whether you want 10 cm or not. At that length, it would be more about how much your body can handle. Once you go past 6 cm on femurs, you entering a risky area where your soft tissue gets very tight from being overstretched. Past 8 cm, and you risk losing your athleticism significantly. I would stick with 8 cm, as I don't think the final 2 cm is worth is the risk and loss in athleticism. Of course that changes if you find out that your body is still growing and can adapt to the changes. At that point, you'd have to find out from your doctor if you can keep going.

If you mean 2 surgeries, then 10 cm is probably more worth your time/money for putting yourself through so much. You probably will not risk much athleticism with 2 surgeries.

Proportion-wise, I think 8.5 cm difference between arm length and height is quite significant. It'll probably look like you're wearing high heels. But I don't think it's significant enough for people to think you look silly.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2015, 11:51:58 AM »

If I go for 178, it'll be 5.5cm fibs, 4.5 tibs.

It's really a matter of my hands being smaller than average.. If I had average sized hands I'd have a total wing span of at least 172cm (if I'm adding around an extra 1.25cm length on each hand).

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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2015, 02:53:19 PM »

I have broad shoulders and small hands too. I can relate.

Just pick a length that makes you feel comfortable and not notice that your hands are shorter etc.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2015, 09:06:40 PM »

If I go for 178, it'll be 5.5cm fibs, 4.5 tibs.

It's really a matter of my hands being smaller than average.. If I had average sized hands I'd have a total wing span of at least 172cm (if I'm adding around an extra 1.25cm length on each hand).
So I went and put on some shoe lifts in my sneakers. And it has a combined height difference of about 6 cm. This makes my wingspan vs my height around 8.5 cm difference. I looked in a full body mirror, and it did look obvious that my legs were longer than the rest of my body proportion-wise. If I pulled my pants all the way up so that the crotch (inseam) area reached my crotch, then it looked silly. It looked like I was wearing high heels or on stilts. However, when I lowered my pants about 2-3 inches, my body looked proportional again. My arms still looked short in comparison, but it was less obvious.

Once I took off my sneakers, I looked proportional and normal with my only 1 or so inch difference in wingspan vs height. You can't tell that I had LL. But with a 8.5 cm difference, it becomes a little bit more obvious that something is off. Not so much that you'd call someone out on it. But enough to be slightly noticeable. You can try to fix it a bit by lowering your pants.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2015, 09:46:29 PM »

So I went and put on some shoe lifts in my sneakers. And it has a combined height difference of about 6 cm. This makes my wingspan vs my height around 8.5 cm difference. I looked in a full body mirror, and it did look obvious that my legs were longer than the rest of my body proportion-wise. If I pulled my pants all the way up so that the crotch (inseam) area reached my crotch, then it looked silly. It looked like I was wearing high heels or on stilts. However, when I lowered my pants about 2-3 inches, my body looked proportional again. My arms still looked short in comparison, but it was less obvious.

Once I took off my sneakers, I looked proportional and normal with my only 1 or so inch difference in wingspan vs height. You can't tell that I had LL. But with a 8.5 cm difference, it becomes a little bit more obvious that something is off. Not so much that you'd call someone out on it. But enough to be slightly noticeable. You can try to fix it a bit by lowering your pants.

Your wingspan is 170cm. You're currently (after LL) 175cm.. Adding 6cm would make you 181cm. That is an 11cm discrepancy. It wouldn't depict my proportions.

.. But I appreciate the effort all the same :)
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 10:22:40 PM »

Weird how my arms are 1 cm shorter than yours and yet my wingspan is 7 cm longer. My shoulders are narrow as well, idk.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2015, 11:16:49 PM »

Your wingspan is 170cm. You're currently (after LL) 175cm.. Adding 6cm would make you 181cm. That is an 11cm discrepancy. It wouldn't depict my proportions.

.. But I appreciate the effort all the same :)
It'd be around 11 cm difference for you too if you wore sneakers. So it's the roughly the same proportions unless you wear shoes with thin soles.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2015, 11:24:42 PM »

It'd be around 11 cm difference for you too if you wore sneakers. So it's the roughly the same proportions unless you wear shoes with thin soles.

Touché. It had crossed my mind that if I lengthened 10cm that I would have to wear very flat shoes to avoid extra discrepancy in proportions.

I doubt that I will go to this extreme.. but with humerus lengthening, l was wondering what recovery times were like, as well as safe lengthening anounts? If any of you happen to know.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2015, 11:31:43 PM »

Weird how my arms are 1 cm shorter than yours and yet my wingspan is 7 cm longer. My shoulders are narrow as well, idk.

I noticed that myself actually.. I thought maybe you had a broad back and shorter arms.. I will double check.. Just to clarify, you measure from the boney bit that sticks out at the top of your shoulder right?
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2015, 01:58:13 PM »

I noticed that myself actually.. I thought maybe you had a broad back and shorter arms.. I will double check.. Just to clarify, you measure from the boney bit that sticks out at the top of your shoulder right?

Arm length is from the acromion bone (google it) to the tip of the middle finger.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2015, 03:28:04 PM »

Arm length is from the acromion bone (google it) to the tip of the middle finger.

Initially I got my gf to measure my arm from the Acromion Bone with my arm by my side standing up. This still yielded 77 cm.. I then decided to try measuring my arm with it out straight, parallel to the floor. This took me down to around 71cm... I have large shoulders and I think the extra size is taken out of the equation once I lift my arms parallel to the floor... Ever seen cases of measurements being out because of additional muscle mass?

Either way, I think 71cm makes more sense because if I had 78cm arms it would mean my back would be quite scrawny.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2015, 03:57:13 PM »

I found something that was 9cm tall. I stood on it while looking in the mirror. I look absolutely fine. I think that as well as heights we also look at wingspans as a number rather than how it actually looks. Different people have different builds and other factors which affect how the overall height increase is perceived. I got my gf to look at me and give me her honest feedback. She said that i looked fine.. I have a big back and shoulders on me, so I think that really helps with the perception also.

Lesson learned: everyone is unique. Let's stop analysing proportion numbers and actually look at real life mock-ups. Proportion numbers should only be used as a guide IMO.

Upperland: find something 4cm and stand on it. I'm sure you'll find that you look absolutely fine.. Forget the numbers and actually SEE what you're working with.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2015, 04:22:12 PM »

Btw. I got my gf to measure my arms again. The other day she was at work and I was trying to measure it myself (nearly impossible).

At resting length (by my side) the measurement was 75.5cm, and then parallel to the floor was 73cm. So I've averaged it down to 74.25cm.

I don't know what is considered long or short for arm length in relation to your height, but if I'm close to Upperland who is naturally 5"10 then I consider that a good thing.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2015, 04:55:39 PM »

I found something that was 9cm tall. I stood on it while looking in the mirror. I look absolutely fine. I think that as well as heights we also look at wingspans as a number rather than how it actually looks. Different people have different builds and other factors which affect how the overall height increase is perceived. I got my gf to look at me and give me her honest feedback. She said that i looked fine.. I have a big back and shoulders on me, so I think that really helps with the perception also.

Lesson learned: everyone is unique. Let's stop analysing proportion numbers and actually look at real life mock-ups. Proportion numbers should only be used as a guide IMO.

Upperland: find something 4cm and stand on it. I'm sure you'll find that you look absolutely fine.. Forget the numbers and actually SEE what you're working with.

I've spent so much time on my toes that I've almost gotten used to being 4-5 cm taller. I do look fine at 182 cm but 185 is starting to look a bit off -and that's how tall I'll be in shoes.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2015, 05:01:27 PM »

You wear shoes with 3cm?? That's how much height my formal leather shoes give me. They have a bit of a heel on them too.. Just wear flatter shoes

I honestly think it's all in your head.. Give us some mock-ups
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2015, 05:37:45 PM »

You wear shoes with 3cm?? That's how much height my formal leather shoes give me. They have a bit of a heel on them too.. Just wear flatter shoes

I honestly think it's all in your head.. Give us some mock-ups

I don't have a camera but I'll buy one and post, also lack a full body mirror but I'll find one.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2015, 05:47:41 PM »

Can't get someone to take it for you? I guess if you get a camera with a timer on it you could set it on a chair or something.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2015, 06:24:10 PM »

Can't get someone to take it for you? I guess if you get a camera with a timer on it you could set it on a chair or something.

I just think it's kinda awkward, btw do you have any tips on how I can make antural lifts that give me 4 cm?

I'm thinking of just stuffing some boots with additional insoles.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2015, 06:50:02 PM »

Is this so you can see how you feel with 4cm extra or just to wear all of the time instead of getting surgery?

You can buy insoles with specific cms.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2015, 08:11:07 PM »

Is this so you can see how you feel with 4cm extra or just to wear all of the time instead of getting surgery?

You can buy insoles with specific cms.

I just want to try it out, don't feel like buying since it isn't going to be a habit.
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Re: Want to be 5"10
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2015, 08:21:46 PM »

Well you could measure anything out to 4cm and jam it in your shoes, but it won't be very comfortable.. I've never worn lifts or insoles... But I've looked into them. Insoles are very cheap. If you want to be comfortable during this experiment then I would fork out the small amount so that you can fully focus on how you feel at your new height. Go to work, see your friends/family and see how you experience the world at 185cm.
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