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Life after a full recovery
« on: January 28, 2014, 12:01:12 AM »

I'm new to this
I'm looking for some questions being answered by ppl who has had LL

What is a full recovery ??

Can you return to normal life

Sports? I do full contact sports
Boxing , Mma , football

Are all these possible after LL
Say like 4-5cm
Is it more likely to make a full recovery

What are ppl experiences with this and how long would it take for a full recovery

Hope you all can help :)
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 12:20:49 AM »

Although we havent seen any exact proof that a full recovery is possible, we havent seen anything conclusive that it wouldnt be possible either.

What we do know is that there are famous athletes that have been able to recover and compete at the highest level after a severe injuries like leg breaks etc, although i guess it is rare and they have access to the best medical equipment and doctors.

it has been proven that the bone recovers to be as strong as before, or even stronger, after a break. However the soft tissue is the question, i have heard people saying that the soft tissue grows new mass to accomodate the longer bone, but some claim the soft tissue is only stretched. If the latter is true then i think the soft tissue wouldnt be able to be as strong as it was before, the muscles can be trained to become bigger but they would still be stretched more than they where before.

I certainly hope a full recovery is possible   :-\
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 02:07:36 AM »

I consider myself pretty much fully recovered.  I can walk normally and run almost as fast as I used to be able to, but my balance and agility aren't what they used to be.  The longer legs are just harder to move quickly.

I'm never was an athlete, so I don't know about playing sports after LL.  Your performance would be reduced, but I'm not sure by how much.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 03:50:41 AM »

If you have the money, go to Dr Guichet for the consultation first and hear what he says.  He is focused alot more on athletic recovery than other Doctors.  I have not done LL but I am considering a few doctors.  Wish you the best.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2014, 12:14:59 PM »

If you have the money, go to Dr Guichet for the consultation first and hear what he says.  He is focused alot more on athletic recovery than other Doctors.  I have not done LL but I am considering a few doctors.  Wish you the best.


I've looked at dr Jamal
Any feed back there ?
Dr Guichet cost just seem abit to out of reach at the moment

Plus at maybe 4 cm I was hoping for less complications and 100% recovery

Thanks for the help
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 02:03:23 AM »

Full recovery varies from individual to individual.

Some people complain of knee-pain. Others have difficulty with regaining full athletic performance. While other have lost their sex drive after returning home (me). I have lost interest in women completely and haven't watch porno for 1 year. So I wonder if that is normal.

As for MMA... if anyone is interested, I can make a mini-video of me, a 5'6 office clerk, doing MMA this weekend. I may not be as agile and explosive as Sweden, but keep in mind that I'm never an athlete to begin with. And all of my MMA experience coming from watching movies and UFC. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 03:08:18 AM »

As for MMA... if anyone is interested, I can make a mini-video of me, a 5'6 office clerk, doing MMA this weekend. I may not be as agile and explosive as Sweden, but keep in mind that I'm never an athlete to begin with. And all of my MMA experience coming from watching movies and UFC. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks.

I'd love to see this. Thanks!
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 11:25:43 AM »

You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 12:22:08 PM »

You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.


Ok that's something to take in
Brutal honesty ! That's what I'm looking for

No ifs or buts or 90%

I compete and sport is a huge part of my life
If performance was seriously affected that would be a big downer on it
Or I was to pick up lot of leg injuries down the line

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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2014, 12:26:29 PM »

Full recovery varies from individual to individual.

Some people complain of knee-pain. Others have difficulty with regaining full athletic performance. While other have lost their sex drive after returning home (me). I have lost interest in women completely and haven't watch porno for 1 year. So I wonder if that is normal.

As for MMA... if anyone is interested, I can make a mini-video of me, a 5'6 office clerk, doing MMA this weekend. I may not be as agile and explosive as Sweden, but keep in mind that I'm never an athlete to begin with. And all of my MMA experience coming from watching movies and UFC. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks.


Post you video
That would be good to watch

It's interesting to know what you've posted
The lost of sex drive ......has other ppl suffered with this ?

Thanks
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 02:20:07 PM »

You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.

There is no concrete proof that full recovery is impossible. One has to consider that the movement and functionality of a longer leg will always be different from a smaller one, so if you cannot move exactly the same way like you could while shorter, then that doesnt necessarily indicate that you are worse now, it might just feel different.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2014, 03:04:42 PM »

There is no concrete proof that full recovery is impossible. One has to consider that the movement and functionality of a longer leg will always be different from a smaller one, so if you cannot move exactly the same way like you could while shorter, then that doesnt necessarily indicate that you are worse now, it might just feel different.

Yea true
Things like
Muscle tares in training due to an already stretched muscle
And can your legs cope with impacts and things like explosive movements
There my worries

Obviously things will feel different and have to adjust

I'd like to hear from ppl who have had LL
And have returned to sports successfully

Thanks
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 04:57:18 AM »

You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.

You should definitely take Sweden's comment seriously. He is probably the only true athlete who has done LL on this forum.

I'm more of a gym hobbyist than an athlete. Before LL I was a couch potato. The only sport I watch is MMA/Boxing, so I will be showing you my MMA this weekend (I work full-time during weekdays). I will try my best to perform and not disappoint! :D

When you are taller, you definitely have more advantages in fights. It's a lot easier attacking downward than upward. However, if the guy launch at your legs, you will have a hard-time maintaining your balance. But if any guys want to pick on me now, I don't mind standing my ground.

Regarding your question about sex drive, I have lost it. Before LL, I always go out on dates, but now I don't. So that's the only difference. I haven't felt any pain anywhere in the body since the frames were removed last summer. So the issues varies between individuals.

So the video will be made this weekend, stay tune!


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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 10:24:03 AM »

You should definitely take Sweden's comment seriously. He is probably the only true athlete who has done LL on this forum.

I'm more of a gym hobbyist than an athlete. Before LL I was a couch potato. The only sport I watch is MMA/Boxing, so I will be showing you my MMA this weekend (I work full-time during weekdays). I will try my best to perform and not disappoint! :D

When you are taller, you definitely have more advantages in fights. It's a lot easier attacking downward than upward. However, if the guy launch at your legs, you will have a hard-time maintaining your balance. But if any guys want to pick on me now, I don't mind standing my ground.

Regarding your question about sex drive, I have lost it. Before LL, I always go out on dates, but now I don't. So that's the only difference. I haven't felt any pain anywhere in the body since the frames were removed last summer. So the issues varies between individuals.

So the video will be made this weekend, stay tune!

When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height

If I train in a pair of Nike airs
Or where boots my balance is fine
I would only look to lengthen this amount you see

It  will be good to here more from Sweden what sort of training he does how things have been effected if possible :)

What is the best way forward frames or internal
I've heard of knees problems with internal ?


I'm not an expert but in training I have a lot of knowledge

With your sex drive
Maybe your body is still recovering plus with the Mma your doing and maybe more it could be pushing your body hard and mentally
Almost like over training affect
Which will affect sex drive

Try plenty of protein in your diet and enough carbs also try a natural test producer might kick you into gear  anabol 19 USN is quite good

Hope it helps

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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 08:47:59 PM »

You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.

I agree.

I would have never done LL in my twenties because of all the sports that I was competing in.
Once you do LL you can forget about the level you had reached before LL.
I decided to do LL at the age of 45. Sure, I didn't know about LL before that age. But still, when I was thinking about doing LL in april 2013, a huge worry of mine was whether I could do sports at an acceptable level again.  I came to the conclusion that this will not be possible but Iwent for LL anyhow because my body was already completely fked up after 30 years of sports.
For example, I can't really play good tennis any more because 30 years of tennis have fked up my right shoulder, ellbow and wrist. Soccer is over, too. If you play soccer at the age of 40 plus, you are constantly gonna have injuries (unless you avoid fast running).
I completely fked up my right knee in a horrible accident in the mountains 8 years ago.
So, I guess you get the conclusion: the sports life that I loved so much was over anyway, so I might as well do LL.

If you are under 30 and sports is a huge part of your life: do not do LL.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 08:51:18 PM »

What about gym and street workout? Is it possible to pimp your body seriously after LL? Or there could be problems with leg days? Ty.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2014, 09:40:23 PM »

Dude, You should be happy if you can walk normally again after the surgery. Nevermind putting 90 kilos on your back and doing 12 reps. wtf?
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2014, 10:00:31 PM »

 :) I don't do that now when I'm fit, just using my body for almost every single excercise.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2014, 10:09:42 PM »

What about gym and street workout? Is it possible to pimp your body seriously after LL? Or there could be problems with leg days? Ty.

I will resume workout immediately after standing up on crutches. I will only train my upper body, core and back, however, and I am allowed to do leg extension (quadriceps) and leg curl (hamstrings). I won't go under heavy weights afoot. Squat, for instance, is out of the question until full consolidation. So is leg press (as it places a vertical pressure on the bone, which should be avoided).
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2014, 11:02:35 PM »

Let's say the normal test of fitness ability

Push Up, 2.4Km Run,  Sprint 200M, Standing Broad Jump
Climbing Stairs, Skipping Rope, Climbing Gym Wall

All these are measurable fitness conditions that you can put numbers to.  Will it be possible to do all these after recovery?  How many % of pre op recovery is possible?
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2014, 01:09:19 AM »

What about gym and street workout? Is it possible to pimp your body seriously after LL? Or there could be problems with leg days? Ty.

Yes. It is possible. I've been doing the superman lift... standing up and pushing 90lb over my head.

Unfortunately, I've been doing it the all natural way.. no steroid or any other shortcut.. so I look kind of skinny.

I will be putting a video up this weekend.. but right now, I'm trying to figure out how to blur my face.. as I don't want everyone in my city to know that I have done LL.. lol
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2014, 02:04:36 AM »

When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height

If I train in a pair of Nike airs
Or where boots my balance is fine
I would only look to lengthen this amount you see

It  will be good to here more from Sweden what sort of training he does how things have been effected if possible :)

What is the best way forward frames or internal
I've heard of knees problems with internal ?


I'm not an expert but in training I have a lot of knowledge

With your sex drive
Maybe your body is still recovering plus with the Mma your doing and maybe more it could be pushing your body hard and mentally
Almost like over training affect
Which will affect sex drive

Try plenty of protein in your diet and enough carbs also try a natural test producer might kick you into gear  anabol 19 USN is quite good

Hope it helps

Thanks for the advice. However, I'm quite happy with the single life where I can just concentrate on myself and not others.

"When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height "

- it has to do with muscle strength and ankle strength. And because your legs are longer than you used to, you also have to deal with maintaining of a pair of lanky long legs which have been weakened through several surgeries and stretching of the muscle.

However, I lengthened a whole 8cm. If you just seek 4cm, then your result should be different.

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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2014, 12:28:49 AM »

Thanks for the advice. However, I'm quite happy with the single life where I can just concentrate on myself and not others.

"When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height "

- it has to do with muscle strength and ankle strength. And because your legs are longer than you used to, you also have to deal with maintaining of a pair of lanky long legs which have been weakened through several surgeries and stretching of the muscle.

However, I lengthened a whole 8cm. If you just seek 4cm, then your result should be different.

Smallguy, what do you think happens to the muscles after they get stretched out from LL? do the muscles adapt eventually and get longer (adding more mass)? Thats what i heard the guys over at old forum  say. But im not sure.

also the bone itself should be stronger where it was broken than before as the body adapts. I guess it puts more pressure on the ankles compared to before but the extra pressure is the same as it would have been if you where born with taller legs to begin with.
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2014, 01:22:05 AM »

Smallguy, what do you think happens to the muscles after they get stretched out from LL? do the muscles adapt eventually and get longer (adding more mass)? Thats what i heard the guys over at old forum  say. But im not sure.

also the bone itself should be stronger where it was broken than before as the body adapts. I guess it puts more pressure on the ankles compared to before but the extra pressure is the same as it would have been if you where born with taller legs to begin with.

Your muscle gets severely weaken from LL. That's for sure. However, I feel like I can get back 100% of my pre-LL agility if I try.

1. Yes, the muscle increases as you do more running and other exercises. Combine with eating healthily, your body adapts to your routine. That why I think indian patients have a slower time recovering (eg. Crazy 6?) compare to someone who lives in a 1st world city like me. I eat the most fresh food on the planet and live in the most clean environment.

2. The pressure on your ankle and knee certainly increase after you have longer bones. Maybe that's why some ppl have pain. But I feel that with enough exercises, like jumping jacks and rope, you can eventually adapt to your longer legs. Right now, I'm trying to increase my explosiveness. That means I will choose for shorter duration but more intense workout.. like trying to run really quickly on the treadmill for 10 mins instead of climbing the steps for 30 minutes.
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Re: Life after a full recovery
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2014, 09:41:36 PM »

I'm new to this
I'm looking for some questions being answered by ppl who has had LL

What is a full recovery ??

Can you return to normal life

Sports? I do full contact sports
Boxing , Mma , football

Are all these possible after LL
Say like 4-5cm
Is it more likely to make a full recovery

What are ppl experiences with this and how long would it take for a full recovery

Hope you all can help :)



There's been some really interesting posts on here ....thanks

But I haven't heard of anyone who has recovered fully and has returned to sports to a good level there happy with
Or if doing only 4 cm would make a big difference

Is there anyone out there that has done just that I wonder and who with and which way they did there LL
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2014, 11:57:06 PM »

lets say f someone s currently in the fire service or police force do you think they could fully recover for the job if they did cll?
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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2014, 12:29:22 AM »

Maybe, but if that's the career you really want I wouldn't take a chance like that.
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2014, 01:09:19 AM »

Like MDW, I think recovery varies on an individual basis.

However, for me, I really messed up. 6 surgeries plus 3 broken bones (pre-consolidate), two nails inserted and one bent plate... I could still perform running speed at 5.5miles/hour after 6 months of recovery.

Regarding the career you mention above., I could be a police man. I could sprint and do different kicks. I could easily tackle a criminal (not to mention use firearm or taser gun). I could be a fireman. I could lift 100lb over my head and do 10 reps. My endurance is also better than most people at my gym.

However, at the moment, I don't think I can be a viable Tae Kwon Do competitor. I can't do a flying side-kick nor perform long jump. I can't dash back and forth as I use to. I can't play soccer, basketball nor footfall. But I can play hockey!

My ortho said I still have a lot of recovery left to do. It's all a matter of time but your recovery is limitless and it depends on yourself.

Is it still worth it in the end? Sure! More happy, less height neurosis, more confident and success at picking up random women in Vancouver have also increased.
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2014, 01:46:41 AM »

Thanks for the detailed response, Smallguy! Do you see yourself being able to play soccer or basketball in the short run? Maybe within a year or so? Man, all those surgeries.. You definitely went through a lot. A family friend told me that she thought I'd have a much more difficult time with LL than I apparently did.. I'm lucky I guess, you're a warrior.
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2014, 01:50:05 AM »

Regarding gym-going by the way, I already feel fit enough to go to the gym and do an upper body workout, swim, and do leg extension. I obviously can't run yet; it's been a week since I've been using the walker but I'm way too enthusiastic for hitting the gym again. If only I had my car.. It's still in service, getting fixed..
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2014, 02:11:18 AM »

Yeah, this summer will be amazing for the both of us.

Before I couldn't get over my height of 5'6 so always have to wear 2.5inches insole. I had this "can't lose" attitude where I stuff as many things in my shoes as humanly possible before going to a club or meeting a superficial girl. Height was normally the biggest reason for rejection. But as you know, with lift you have to hide it by wearing long boot-cut jeans. For the past 5 years, there wasn't a summer gone by where I could wear shorts freely. It's sucks wearing thick rock & republic jeans in a 30+ degrees hot summer.

But this summer, I can wear shorts (and you too). It's a biggest break a short guy can have.

I can play soccer and basketball but will be a bit slower in movement speed. Short guys are usually quite quick with their short legs on the field. We will have to deal with our lanky limbs. But I think if you put your mind to it, then you can play these sports perfectly again. Yeah, your LL case is actually perfect. Congratulation!

Yeah take it lightly at first. Make sure your bones are consolidated well enough before exerting physical force or lift heavier weight.

Today, a girl said she liked my shorts. And I said thank you. Then as I walked away, she said to her coworker that I was hot. I was unfazed. But before I would hear comments like he was "cute" but never he was hot before. If you feel bored, I could write a visualization of your after LL experience (as I did with Sweatpants) :D

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