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[Penguinn]

I plan on doing Krav Maga sometime after LL. Maybe a year or two after. Do you think I'll be able to?
It's not a big deal but just something I might want to try.

[Cartman]

I think that after some months you'll be fine to do any sport, martial arts too: human body is a perfect machine.
But I know that Krav Maga is hard to learn: don't you prefer Judo or Aikido to start? 

[Penguinn]

I think that after some months you'll be fine to do any sport, martial arts too: human body is a perfect machine.
But I know that Krav Maga is hard to learn: don't you prefer Judo or Aikido to start? 

In a good case scenario, I guess I should be able to do it after LL.

No, I want a pure, lethal self-defense art. Krav Maga seems to be the best. I'm only worried about the training facility in my city not being upto mark, and I don't trust "Krav Maga Online Courses".

[ramujp17]

try kravmagaglobel.in

[Cartman]

Don't worry... After a fracture the bones become stronger than before, it's well known ;-)

[Uppland]

Yeah I've been wondering this myself actually, will I be physically helpless after ll, unable to compete with a normal healthy adult?

Your bones will be as strong as ever but your muscles will be weakened as far as I understand, so it should be tough I'm afraid.

It's simple when you think about it, your muscles will have to move a larger leg than they were meant to. Sort of like swinging a bigger stick is harder than swinging a smaller one.

[Alu]

Yeah I've been wondering this myself actually, will I be physically helpless after ll, unable to compete with a normal healthy adult?

Your bones will be as strong as ever but your muscles will be weakened as far as I understand, so it should be tough I'm afraid.

It's simple when you think about it, your muscles will have to move a larger leg than they were meant to. Sort of like swinging a bigger stick is harder than swinging a smaller one.

Yes but wouldn't the muscles also stretch along with the bone, so long as the lengthening process isn't too rapid or too extreme in length? At the same time wouldn't you just be able to work on strengthening those muscles to adjust to the new bone, which if recovered properly, would have already been well healed? I'm just sort of curious about this is all.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

I found that my muscles did grow in response to the lengthening, but they didn't grow quite enough.  It's like they hit their growth capacity.

I'm a naturally skinny guy who has trouble putting on much muscle, so maybe there's a chance you endomorphs/mesomorphs might not experience this.

[Uppland]

Yes but wouldn't the muscles also stretch along with the bone, so long as the lengthening process isn't too rapid or too extreme in length? At the same time wouldn't you just be able to work on strengthening those muscles to adjust to the new bone, which if recovered properly, would have already been well healed? I'm just sort of curious about this is all.

Yes to an extent perhaps, but remember that the muscle cells will only increase in size not in numbers. Your strength might increase but your muscles will always be too small for your skeleton, a taller man would have longer muscles to match the longer bone.

If you lengthen too far beyond your natural state there will be no complete recovery more or less by definition.

[KiloKAHN]

I'm looking to get back into combat sambo. Did a lot of it in high school along with judo and wrestling. I think I'll be able to get back into it in due time, although it's going to be a lot more difficult to have a solid takedown defense than before due to the higher center of gravity and less explosiveness.

[Penguinn]

Yes to an extent perhaps, but remember that the muscle cells will only increase in size not in numbers. Your strength might increase but your muscles will always be too small for your skeleton, a taller man would have longer muscles to match the longer bone.

If you lengthen too far beyond your natural state there will be no complete recovery more or less by definition.

Does 3 inches stand as "too far"? Or just borderline "too far"?

[Uppland]

Does 3 inches stand as "too far"? Or just borderline "too far"?

There is no fixed limit, your body will experience successively worse tolerance the more you lengthen. The further your body is altered beyond its natural state the more prominent the effects of a change in biomechanics will become.

Depending on how much athletic ability you are willing to sacrifice 7,5CM may indeed be too much or perhaps it will be acceptable in the context of your expectations. However, you will suffer a decrease in athletic ability -prepare yourself for that fact.

EDIT- The closest one gets to a fixed limit is, from a medical standpoint, your tibia to femur ratio. Your tibiae can not be longer than your femur or your gait will suffer. Not sure what the max recommended deviation is on the other end though.

[Penguinn]

There is no fixed limit, your body will experience successively worse tolerance the more you lengthen. The further your body is altered beyond its natural state the more prominent the effects of a change in biomechanics will become.

Depending on how much athletic ability you are willing to sacrifice 7,5CM may indeed be too much or perhaps it will be acceptable in the context of your expectations. However, you will suffer a decrease in athletic ability -prepare yourself for that fact.

EDIT- The closest one gets to a fixed limit is, from a medical standpoint, your tibia to femur ratio. Your tibiae can not be longer than your femur or your gait will suffer. Not sure what the max recommended deviation is on the other end though.

My tibia and femur look almost the same size. If I didn't know femurs were supposed to be longer, I'd say my tibia was longer or as long as my femur. Looks good with 3 inches of lengthening, but I doubt looking good and being physically fine are the same exact thing.

I'll miss my centre of gravity. Lol. I've always had confidence that no one could knock me down easily in a fight.

[Uppland]

My tibia and femur look almost the same size. If I didn't know femurs were supposed to be longer, I'd say my tibia was longer or as long as my femur. Looks good with 3 inches of lengthening, but I doubt looking good and being physically fine are the same exact thing.

I'll miss my centre of gravity. Lol. I've always had confidence that no one could knock me down easily in a fight.

Your femurs are longer, otherwise you'd be deformed. It's nice that your proportions look good even after adding 7,5CM, the only two things that really worry me about leg lengthening are athletic recovery and proportions in that order. If you got one out of two settled then that's not so bad.

[Penguinn]

Your femurs are longer, otherwise you'd be deformed. It's nice that your proportions look good even after adding 7,5CM, the only two things that really worry me about leg lengthening are athletic recovery and proportions in that order. If you got one out of two settled then that's not so bad.

Decide for yourself. Here's a picture of me. http://imgur.com/qfVtOIw
Notice how terrible I look with tibias lengthened? Everyone including me seems to think I look fine with lengthened femurs. I don't even care about proportions long as they're not abnormal or noticeably weird.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

You stretched out the ankles in the tibia mockup.  In the surgery, the break will be close to the knee so the thickest part of the leg gets lengthened.  That's contributing to why it looks so bad.

[Penguinn]

You stretched out the ankles in the tibia mockup.  In the surgery, the break will be close to the knee so the thickest part of the leg gets lengthened.  That's contributing to why it looks so bad.

Got it. But still, lengthened tibias will still look very off for me.

[Cartman]

Why don't you try to play Krav Maga before ll ? Height and weight are not important for martial arts. I've seen short women (yes, WOMEN) fighting against tall and bulked men and they frequently won.

[Penguinn]

Why don't you try to play Krav Maga before ll ? Height and weight are not important for martial arts. I've seen short women (yes, WOMEN) fighting against tall and bulked men and they frequently won.

1. I have to study. My 12th grade exams are very important this year.
2. What's the point if I'm gonna take a 1-2 year break after half a year of Krav Maga?

[Overdozer]

I've lengthened 15 cms and I feel like I won't be doing any martial arts in a long time except Mortal Kombat.

[Penguinn]

I've lengthened 15 cms and I feel like I won't be doing any martial arts in a long time except Mortal Kombat.

15cms is a LOT!! That's 6 inches, like that crazy+6 from the old forum. Could you post a picture of your proportions?

I'm going to lengthen half that amount and it's still quite a lot.

[V]

Yes to an extent perhaps, but remember that the muscle cells will only increase in size not in numbers. Your strength might increase but your muscles will always be too small for your skeleton, a taller man would have longer muscles to match the longer bone.

If you lengthen too far beyond your natural state there will be no complete recovery more or less by definition.

'If you lengthen too far beyond your natural state there will be no complete recovery more or less by definition.'

How much would be considered beyond your natural state?

[permanentlybanned]

'If you lengthen too far beyond your natural state there will be no complete recovery more or less by definition.'

How much would be considered beyond your natural state?

Femur more than where tibia femur ratio is very small like less than .68 so like a 10cm femoral lengthening

Tibia more than Achilles allowed so like a 8cm tibia lengthening

Basically anything that makes you look like dwarf on stilts where it clearly is so freaky is probably too much and don't expect to have same biomechanics as pre LL

[Jamesy998]

Femur more than where tibia femur ratio is very small like less than .68 so like a 10cm femoral lengthening

Tibia more than Achilles allowed so like a 8cm tibia lengthening

Basically anything that makes you look like dwarf on stilts where it clearly is so freaky is probably too much and don't expect to have same biomechanics as pre LL

My femur was extremely short in the first place, reason for getting LL in fact so I think in terms of biomechanics there should be no issues but combat sports would probably need at least 2 years post LL for commencement.

[Serilium]

I'm looking to get back into combat sambo. Did a lot of it in high school along with judo and wrestling. I think I'll be able to get back into it in due time, although it's going to be a lot more difficult to have a solid takedown defense than before due to the higher center of gravity and less explosiveness.

Hi Kilo.

Did you ever try that combat sambo since then? Curious if it went okay long after LL and if it was even decent or just horrible in regards to martial arts post-LL. About 6-7 years post LL now.

Thanks Kilo

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I think Brazillian Jiujitsu would be the best option, because you can just fight from the ground where it requires no balance on your feet.

[Future Skycraper]

Yes, agreed.
Taekowndo is awesome for those with longe legs, but it needs balance af, and there's a lot of impact. If you overcome all the complications, taekowndo is sick

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Yes, agreed.
Taekowndo is awesome for those with longe legs, but it needs balance af, and there's a lot of impact. If you overcome all the complications, taekowndo is sick

Even for long-legged people, it isn't very practical and effective. There is a reason why you don't see any Taekwondo fighters in MMA, let alone in street fight.

[short]

Even for long-legged people, it isn't very practical and effective. There is a reason why you don't see any Taekwondo fighters in MMA, let alone in street fight.

This. I studied taekwondo for a few years myself and it is useless especially the WTF version. You need a lot of space that you don't have in the boxing ring.

[Future Skycraper]

Even for long-legged people, it isn't very practical and effective. There is a reason why you don't see any Taekwondo fighters in MMA, let alone in street fight.

True, jiu-jitsu is one of the best. I thought the question was about just as an sport, but for self defence, box and jiu-jitsu are awesome

[Future Skycraper]

True, jiu-jitsu is one of the best. I thought the question was about just as an sport, but for self defence, box and jiu-jitsu are awesome

Really? Me too! WTF is the best one I think. But true af, if someone gets you on the floor (what is easy) you're in treable