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microman

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0.48mm a day
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:18:20 PM »

I was windering if it is safe to do one less turn a day giving 0.48mm and if there is danger of pre consolidation if i do so.

my dr. said it would be fine but some people on forums say you cant go below 0.66 a day, quite confusing as in the FAQ on anold forum it said 0.66 a day as maximum, which implies you can go lower.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2015, 03:51:06 PM »

I was windering if it is safe to do one less turn a day giving 0.48mm and if there is danger of pre consolidation if i do so.

my dr. said it would be fine but some people on forums say you cant go below 0.66 a day, quite confusing as in the FAQ on anold forum it said 0.66 a day as maximum, which implies you can go lower.

y do you want to go slower than 0.66?? you shouldnt be having problems at0.66.. just keep turning 0.66mm that is the best speed to do.. dont do slower.. theres no point
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 04:23:40 PM »

I think 0.66 mm per day was the recommended max from the Beijing clinic and that was just pasted on the old forum because the previous owner was a patient.

I think 0.75 mm should be fine. That's what I was recommended to turn and I never had any problems with it.

0.48 mm just seems too slow.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 04:42:08 PM »

hmm okay, well i think its scienfitically proven that your soft tissues can't handle above 0.66 and in that  case if you go above that you will not make the process go any faster by doing 1.00 and instead the recovery time just becomes longer.

but anyway yeah i had some issues with extreme stiffness causing me to have to lower the rate for about 2 days as when i turned it made the stifness even worse, i have heard of some cases where people do that for a few days.

that stiffness is gone now so i should be back on track for 0.66.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 06:17:54 PM »

microman, you have absolutely no muscles you should have no problem with 0.66mm per day, you said on your first mm ON DAY 1 that you had extreme pain when lengthening. seriously you need to grow some balls. im just being real with you. im trying to help you.

the pain is because your being a cry baby.

also 0.48mm is not an option on mitkovics device. 3 turns is 0.5mm exactly.

the proof that's this pain is all in your head is because you complained of extreme pain from day 1 of turning. and by pain being only in your head I specifically mean, that you are in the same amount of pain as all of us leg lengtheners who went with mitkovic, in fact no one had more pain than me, mitkovic even said I had complications (temporary) that he had never seen before.

my point is your just experiencing the normal discomfort, your not even experiencing pain. your just being a baby.

if you let the pain be a problem, and you lower to 0.5mm when your at like a few cm only? how much are you at now?

then your fibulas WILL CONSOLIDATE. you should only slow down to 0.5mm when you are at least 3 cm, and even then you should wait till at lest 4.5cm. me, discrete user, and maverick all had to re break the fibula. so yes there is a very real danger that you will reach pre consolidation.

every post you make is about your pain being so extreme that it feels like you are in as much pain as the day after surgery, I will quote you saying this if you want. grow some balls, your not even in pain, your in discomfort, and your not in any special discomfort, your in the same amount of discomfort as every patient went through, in fact even less than what we went through.

the problem is you have a wimpy personality. you need to stop over exaggerating the pain. if you even went through half the pain I did you would have broken in 3 days.

im trying to help you, be a man, stop crying like a kid over nothing.


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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2015, 06:43:23 PM »

the pain was from a complication, was extreme pain, that ha only happened once, no other day has been like that, that was not a normal day.

over past 3 days have had issues with stiff legs, but everything seems fine now so should get back up to 0.66, my current turn rate is below.

0.16   was just a trial turn the night I got discharged from hospital, not official day
0.33
1.00
0.83
1.00
0.83
0.66
0.66
0.66
0.33
0.5
0.5
0.66
0.5
0.33

average rate here is about .62mm, so i hope im okay and will now do 0.66 from now on.

maybe my 1mm days will make up with the .5 days?

maybe i should get an x ray to check?
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2015, 06:57:18 PM »

the pain was from a complication, was extreme pain, that ha only happened once, no other day has been like that, that was not a normal day.

over past 3 days have had issues with stiff legs, but everything seems fine now so should get back up to 0.66, my current turn rate is below.

0.16   was just a trial turn the night I got discharged from hospital, not official day
0.33
1.00
0.83
1.00
0.83
0.66
0.66
0.66
0.33
0.5
0.5
0.66
0.5
0.33

average rate here is about .62mm, so i hope im okay and will now do 0.66 from now on.

maybe my 1mm days will make up with the .5 days?

maybe i should get an x ray to check?

the pain u had at the start wasnt a complication... it was your bone hadnt pulled apart yet, exactly what i told u.. that is not a complication.. ur legs are going to get stiff.. even my legs are still stiff which ive also told u so im not sure why you are shocked your legs are stiff.. you need to start listening to me because i have told u alot of these things and u ask about them again on the forum to people that know nothing about mitkovics advice...... its not suppose to be easy, ur lengthening your bloody legs.. slowing down your lengthening achieves nothing, its just putting u at risk of premature consolidation of the fibula.. which ive also told you more than once..
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2015, 07:01:07 PM »

and yes i told you that i would ask mitkovic and he has told me that 3 turns would be safe and i would not get pre consolidation.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2015, 07:05:55 PM »

3 of the last 4 patients got pre-consolidation of the fibula. they were going faster than 0.5mm per day.

this is primarily due to no screw for the top of the fibula. this causes the fibula to get pulled down. and consolidates early as the bone gap is shorter.


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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2015, 07:14:44 PM »

okay so this is something that just happens anyway even when you do the recomended lengthening?

should i get an x ray each week to check its not consolidated, and say after the 4th week if it hasn't consolidated we know it wont happen as the gap is large enough.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2015, 07:21:15 PM »

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0.16   was just a trial turn the night I got discharged from hospital, not official day
0.33
1.00
0.83
1.00
0.83
0.66
0.66
0.66
0.33
0.5
0.5
0.66
0.5
0.33

your not even 1 cm yet.............. your tissues are not even taut.

you really need to stop with all this pain rubbish. your not even 1 cm into it.

at less than 1cm you should not be doing 0.5mm per day, or have days at 0.16mm, 0.33mm, you need to stop this silliness.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2015, 07:26:54 PM »

0.16 wasn't a real day, it was just mitkovic showing me how to turn, he said it would start the day after, as i said that day doesnt count but he did turn the device.

on average i have done 0.66, as i had many days at 1.00 which is above the standard 0.66, is it not common for people to do 1.00 for 3 days then 0.5 for 3 days? things such like that?
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2015, 07:32:15 PM »

your argument is nonsensical.

1 your completely missing the point, your less than 1 cm into this. you just don't get it.

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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2015, 07:38:23 PM »

no its 0.64

0.5 +1.00+0.83+1.00+0.83+0.66+0.66+0.66+0.33+0.5+0.5+0.66+0.5+0.33

and include today of 0.66 it becomes 0.64 in total of 15 days

but anyway how did the other people get pre consolidation if they did a correct lengthening rate?
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2015, 07:48:36 PM »

microman. you should not be going this slow if you have not even passed the 1cm mark is my point.

how do you expect to slow down later if you travel at snails pace before the first cm.
0.33mm days is just silly when under 1cm.

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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2015, 08:04:07 PM »

i thought it was standard stuff to change lenthening rate, for example taking these days

0.66+0.66+0.66+0.33+0.5+0.5

the average rate is 0.55, that is only 20% lower than the recomended 0.66, how is this 'snails pace'.

but from now on i will try 0.66.

can i try 2 surface turns in one go, what has been your results of that.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2015, 08:06:00 PM »

i thought it was standard stuff to change lenthening rate, for example taking these days

0.66+0.66+0.66+0.33+0.5+0.5

the average rate is 0.55, that is only 20% lower than the recomended 0.66, how is this 'snails pace'.

but from now on i will try 0.66.

can i try 2 surface turns in one go, what has been your results of that.

y r u complicating it.. TURN 4 TIMES A DAY .. SIMPLE
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2015, 08:13:01 PM »

You will not be getting those exact amounts anyway.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 08:23:42 PM »

y r u complicating it.. TURN 4 TIMES A DAY .. SIMPLE

many people change their lengthening rates, this is common.

spoke with mitkovic he said slowing down for a few days will not cause pre consolidation.
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Re: 0.48mm a day
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2015, 08:28:47 PM »

The first 2-3cm is a little bit critical I believe. But if your doctor tells you it's not then you should listen to him.
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