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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #93 on: November 02, 2015, 08:05:42 AM »

Bohemia,

Your legs look nice, When you see a person dont see the legs, first you see the face, the height and the body shape.

I think that you have to achive your goal, just one month more.

In other hand, what kind of physical activiti can you do now?

Can you walk with crutches? how many steps? how is your pain?

Many thanks and cheers
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2015, 11:06:43 AM »

hello
yes 8 cm is perfect 173CM 
normal size    in france is 175cm   
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2015, 11:52:14 AM »

Honestly do u feel 7cm is good enough for me I'm 163cm slightly shorter than u. Why did u decide 8cm is there a logic behind this

No one can answer that question but you.. He obviously wants as much height as he can get... And at 172.5 he'd practically be a 5"8 beast!

But I would stop at 6cm also for recovery, proportions and performance reasons.... And have a second surgery done later down the track.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #96 on: November 02, 2015, 01:40:45 PM »

Honestly do u feel 7cm is good enough for me I'm 163cm slightly shorter than u. Why did u decide 8cm is there a logic behind this

I believe that 7 cm will revolutionize your psychology forever. Add in a pair of Doc Martins (4 cm heel) and also a shoe lift sole (2.5 cm) and you now stand at 176 cm—quite sizable. I personally will always wear one-inch lifts in my boots, because I consider it a harmless, discreet accessory.

I selected 8 cm because Fitbone hits that figure at its maximum.

Bohemia,

Your legs look nice, When you see a person dont see the legs, first you see the face, the height and the body shape.

I think that you have to achive your goal, just one month more.

In other hand, what kind of physical activiti can you do now?

Can you walk with crutches? how many steps? how is your pain?

Many thanks and cheers

I agree. We tend to detect overall shape moreso than appendage proportions.

I escape the wheelchair tomorrow, and finally switch to crutches indefinitely. Walking in the pool always caused minor aggravation in the middle of the night, so I suspect that will recur for the first few days. I have walked freely and unaided several times for about 10 feet, and handled it decently.

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I leave MIC and Barcelona tomorrow morning at 8:30 am. It feels very sad, and I will miss the people here. I cannot emphasize how friendly and patient everyone acted with me. For example, the weather turned cold, and the lady who oversees the restaurant asked why I wear t-shirts in the chilly temperature. I explained I could not fit a sweater or sweatshirt into my carry-on bags; so the next day she brought me two heavy tops from her son's old closet. Also, I have become extremely fond of Dr. Monegal and Claudio; they quite literally helped my dream come true so far. (And holy fk, those two guys cracked me up with their jokes, both very cool and funny men)

For anyone considering this destination for their leg lengthening, I grade it an A+ for its convenience, safety, and reasonableness.

I will post a few more times as I complete the last 1.5 cm back in the USA, but I believe I have created a comprehensive journal for anyone in my position several months ago. The diaries I read earlier in the year certainly inspirited me to do this, so may it assist you to do the same!
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #97 on: November 02, 2015, 02:45:36 PM »

hello
yes 8 cm is perfect 173CM 
normal size    in france is 175cm

Where have you been for a long time?
Another videos please
especially on tread mill
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #98 on: November 02, 2015, 03:11:33 PM »

Bohemia, if I wanted to carry out full distraction in my home country with the Fitbone about a week after surgery, is this an option??
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2015, 03:47:50 PM »


Bohemia,

Have a nice trip.

If it is possible, please let us know how its your recovery, in the consolidation phase and when you start to walk because I had a lot of question about leg bow, and the full recovery.

You have done a good work for us

Many thanks for your time.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2015, 02:27:26 AM »

Hey Bohemia,

Wanted to say thanks for the detailed diary and hope you finish your 8cm without issue. I've been following you from the beginning and can say your and the other Monegal diaries gave me the peace of mind to follow through LL in Barcelona.

Good luck!
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #101 on: November 04, 2015, 03:19:38 PM »

Bohemia, if I wanted to carry out full distraction in my home country with the Fitbone about a week after surgery, is this an option??

Ask Dr. Monegal.

Bohemia,

Have a nice trip.

If it is possible, please let us know how its your recovery, in the consolidation phase and when you start to walk because I had a lot of question about leg bow, and the full recovery.

You have done a good work for us

Many thanks for your time.

I will.

Hey Bohemia,

Wanted to say thanks for the detailed diary and hope you finish your 8cm without issue. I've been following you from the beginning and can say your and the other Monegal diaries gave me the peace of mind to follow through LL in Barcelona.

Good luck!

For when did you schedule it?

I consider Barcelona the #1 location in the world for lengthening besides the American destinations. While I have not tried the German or Turkish locales (and would never do a third world country), I know for a fact that Dr. Monegal remains in constant contact with the general manager at Wittenstein (engineers of Fitbone) and he undergoes annual training and lectures at their yearly conferences.

Also, I personally emailed Wittenstein to ask a question about Euro-to-USA electricity conversion and they replied within 24 hours—they provided a 3-inch converter box that plugs into the American power outlet, because Fitbone has a European plug.

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Holy fk! My flight back to the USA brutalized my legs. 8 hours in the same chair caused severe discomfort. The whole airport experience felt surreal; they escorted me through a streamlined security and customs check. Then they gave me priority access to the plane, and wheeled me on a little scooter to my seat. LOL

Today I commenced the use of my crutches, and I immediately realized how convenient the wheelchair is in comparison, since both hands need to hold the bars on the crutches for support, it eliminates the freedom to carry anything on my lap. Furthermore, my house has stairs and such, which has become annoying. But it will all normalize soon.

Lastly, I drove this morning to a coffee shop, and I currently sit there right now. No hassles with driving at all.

My dear friend owns the shop, and she always stood at about the same height as me. And today when we hugged hello, I *towered* over her, and her face pressed against my neck and shoulder. She commented "Wow, you boosted!" (She knows about the procedure) The dramatic contrast definitely surprised me!

I have not surveyed how random strangers generally stand in comparison to me height-wise yet, since I am on crutches and cannot walk through town freely yet, but I already recognize a difference.

When I complete 8 cm in 2+ weeks, I will hit 174 cm, which equates to 5'8.5" exactly. Factor in a one-inch lift (I will wear lifts until I die), and also the 1.5 inch sole on normal boots, and I will stand at approximately 5'11". (Technically, a centimeter less due to the femur bone angle) In other words, I will refer to myself as 5'9" to people once this terminates.

I have no idea whether I would do tibia lengthening; I almost feel like it would be greedy to do so; like it would "test my luck."
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2015, 12:03:48 PM »

Bohemia,

Have you thought about to do tibias too?? internal o external? how many cms?

or do you think that the pain for a new operation will be worst than your confidence?

Good recovery
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2015, 09:47:03 PM »

Hey hope all is well

Do u have another physical therapist in Phili or are you doing PT on your own?

How is it being back home?
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #104 on: November 06, 2015, 11:09:06 PM »

Bohemia,

Have you thought about to do tibias too?? internal o external? how many cms?

or do you think that the pain for a new operation will be worst than your confidence?

Good recovery

Yes, but in no way can I determine whether I would do it right now.

Hey hope all is well

Do u have another physical therapist in Phili or are you doing PT on your own?

How is it being back home?

Nah, only me.

Feels weird. Now I need to walk up and down stairs, use normal bathrooms, climb in and out of my car and  . It has added like 10 minutes to everything I do. But I feel my leg muscles orienting to it all day by day.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2015, 09:42:32 AM »

Bohemia,

Can you walk up And down stair with crutches?? How??
You have to put all the weight in just one leg??

Could you upload a vídeo??

I thought that you can dont climb stairs in the first 4 month Or similar

Many thanks, i dont know how many things can you do in the first stages of the LL  :(
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2015, 05:14:01 PM »

Bohemia,

Can you walk up And down stair with crutches?? How??
You have to put all the weight in just one leg??

Could you upload a vídeo??

I thought that you can dont climb stairs in the first 4 month Or similar

Many thanks, i dont know how many things can you do in the first stages of the LL  :(

I place both crutches in one hand, hold the rail in my other hand, and lift myself up so I can step one leg at a time without any full weightbearing on any one leg.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2015, 11:12:21 PM »

Setting on my crutches, believe it or not.

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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #108 on: November 09, 2015, 04:29:15 PM »

Wow congrats

Do you know about how long u have to be on crutches after you have finished lengthening?

 What is your typical day like?
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #109 on: November 11, 2015, 12:01:53 AM »

Wow congrats

Do you know about how long u have to be on crutches after you have finished lengthening?

 What is your typical day like?

Dr. Monegal says I complete the crutches mid-December, which amounts to one month post-lengthening and four months post-treatment.

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I hit 7 cm today. At the request of the doctor, I lengthened only .66 mm per day for a week instead of 1 mm in order to become acquainted with the crutches. However, from yesterday until I complete 8 cm I will do 1 mm again at my own discretion.

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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #110 on: November 11, 2015, 12:21:11 AM »

How has lengthening been past 5 cm? Is the tension much stronger and prevalent? If so when did you start noticing it?

Keep it up man you're almost there, quite amazing really!
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #111 on: November 11, 2015, 12:25:14 AM »

Hey Buddy!

I guess you won't know yet until it happens, but how will you know when you max out the nail? Does the distraction machine cease to work, or does the counter cease to increment, or the motor just stops?
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #112 on: November 12, 2015, 07:04:31 PM »

How has lengthening been past 5 cm? Is the tension much stronger and prevalent? If so when did you start noticing it?

The second half of lengthening has given me less soreness and discomfort than the first half. Perhaps because of my stretching.

In fact, I prefer how my legs feel when I do 1 mm per day as opposed to anything less.

Hey Buddy!

I guess you won't know yet until it happens, but how will you know when you max out the nail? Does the distraction machine cease to work, or does the counter cease to increment, or the motor just stops?

I asked Doc today and he said the nail will simply stop and become silent, and the screen will no longer count iterations.

Would be cool if it had a feature that indicated max lengthening.

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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2015, 07:45:00 PM »

when will you have to return back to spain to get nail removed?
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2015, 02:39:55 AM »

when will you have to return back to spain to get nail removed?

12-15 months.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2015, 04:54:27 AM »

Currently at 7.3 cm — this might cease in 7 days.

Cannot fathom it.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2015, 06:28:59 AM »

man your going twice as fast as i am, once i hit 6cm my doctor advised me 0.5mm a day, obviously im doing tibia so it will be slower but yeah.

it's going to be so awesome for us going from 5 5 to 5 8.

did the doctor mention anything different between 7.5 and 8.0cm, it seems some doctors say 7.5 is safe limit, and others say 8.0, it's hard to get a straight answer.

i also read that you don't get the full height you lengthen with femur, due to angle, so if you stop at 8cm you will actually get 7.3cm or something, this is due to the fact that the femur done is not straight like the tibia bone is, have you asked the doctor about anything like that.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #117 on: November 18, 2015, 12:23:56 AM »

man your going twice as fast as i am, once i hit 6cm my doctor advised me 0.5mm a day, obviously im doing tibia so it will be slower but yeah.

Dr. Monegal asked me to decrease the amount for a couple days; I did, but increased to .99 again.

Honestly, I have become desperate. I need to complete this crap as soon as possible. It has taken a toll on me psychologically—I feel miserable and handicapped, but also happy for doing this; a strange blend of sentiments.

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it's going to be so awesome for us going from 5 5 to 5 8. did the doctor mention anything different between 7.5 and 8.0cm, it seems some doctors say 7.5 is safe limit, and others say 8.0, it's hard to get a straight answer.

No straight answer exists, as far as I can tell.

Dr. Paley told me the largest lengthening he did passed over 15 inches or a crazy number like that.

That said, I would caution against anything beyond 8 cm personally. My common sense does not like the idea of a bone having a separation greater than 3 inches. Also, the amount of time necessary for the bone to grow over 3 inches becomes unreasonable. (12+ months)

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i also read that you don't get the full height you lengthen with femur, due to angle, so if you stop at 8cm you will actually get 7.3cm or something, this is due to the fact that the femur done is not straight like the tibia bone is, have you asked the doctor about anything like that.

No idea. I will probably pretend that crap does not exist, and that I received a full 8 cm. :)
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #118 on: November 18, 2015, 02:32:06 AM »

What is the estimated time that you will walk without aid? 
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #119 on: November 18, 2015, 03:15:44 AM »

What is the estimated time that you will walk without aid?

Mid December I can walk without crutches.

The idea of it seems incredible. I can barely fathom it right now.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #120 on: November 18, 2015, 09:10:40 AM »

keep you pushing Bohemia!!!

you are going to reach your goal.

In One month can you start to walk unaid it is simply awesome.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #121 on: November 18, 2015, 05:29:23 PM »

That is truly amazing, and blows external out of the water regardless of price.  What is the estimated time you will be able to run and be "fully recovered"?
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #122 on: November 18, 2015, 06:45:40 PM »

Mid December I can walk without crutches.

The idea of it seems incredible. I can barely fathom it right now.
That's quite impressive, given that I did my surgery a month and a half before you and I'm not expected to be able to walk without crutches until end of November or end of December.
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Re: Dr. Monegal / Spain / Bilateral Femurs / Fitbone / August 25, 2015
« Reply #123 on: November 20, 2015, 04:03:21 AM »

keep you pushing Bohemia!!!

you are going to reach your goal.

In One month can you start to walk unaid it is simply awesome.

Thank you!

That is truly amazing, and blows external out of the water regardless of price.  What is the estimated time you will be able to run and be "fully recovered"?

Perhaps once I remove the nail. However due to the tribulations of programdude, I will not do anything strenuous for 16 months. The bone needs to create three full inches of material and then calcify it—I cannot imagine sprinting or jumping hard before then.

That's quite impressive, given that I did my surgery a month and a half before you and I'm not expected to be able to walk without crutches until end of November or end of December.

Yes, it suggests how unstandardized the whole process can be.

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This evening my Fitbone ceased screwing in my right femur. I placed the transmitter on the antenna and it remained silent. I tried five times and nothing. Perhaps I completed the lengthening in my right leg; my numbers say it did 78.15 mm—1.85 less than a full 80 mm. To me that suggests I miscalculated and that the nail did max out. I will however try again for the next few days while I conclude the left leg.
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