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[DreamKamchatka]

some doctors say that for arms they only do humerus lengthening and ulna lengthening is only for unequal arms.

which doctor can lengthen ulna for cosmetic purpose?

[KiloKAHN]

The ones who don't care about their patient's well-being.

[DreamKamchatka]

The ones who don't care about their patient's well-being.

seriously? even clavicles lengthening is possible

[KiloKAHN]

Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's advisable. The forearm is the most dangerous segment to lengthen. Humerus is only performed for cosmetic reasons because it's the easiest of all limb segments.

The only surgeons I've contacted who have agreed to do forearm lengthening for cosmetic reasons are the ones who had negative reports about them to begin with.

[jfk]

The ones who don't care about their patient's well-being.

says the guy who got his legs lengthened for cosmetic purposes...really stupid!

[jfk]

Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's advisable.

But everybody knows that leg lengthening is advisable. Just ask any doctor...

[MRbones]

from jfk
says the guy who got his legs lengthened for cosmetic purposes...really stupid!

jfk listen to kilokahn. he knows what he is talking about.
jfk stop being sarcastic on issues you know nothing about.

if you did 10 seconds of research: you would know:

Pronation and supination are a pair of unique movements possible only in the forearms and hands, allowing the human body to flip the palm either face up or face down. The muscles, bones, and joints of the human forearm are specifically arranged to permit these unique and important rotations of the hands.


do  you have any idea of the danger of lengthening in a straight line bones that curve and bend when you supinate them. you will guaranty loss of function.

you can only lengthen in a straight line, because the bar is straight. you will damage bones that work like this in a really bad way.


I think you should retract your calling kilokahrn stupid, as it now seems jfk that your comment was the uneducated/stupid 1.

[MRbones]

I swear all the freaks are out to play now, they justify their dangerous surgery wants such as clavicle lengthening or forearm lengthening and say how dare we "dis-agree" with their dreams because we did leg lengthening and so are hypocrites.

look guys some surgeries are just dangerous so stop attacking the messenger.

lol it would be like us/leg lengtheners saying don't transplant a head its dangerously and then the guy sais you broke your legs just for a few cm's, how dare you tell me not to transplant my head........... seriously there's a massive difference.

[jfk]

jfk listen to kilokahn. he knows what he is talking about.
jfk stop being sarcastic on issues you know nothing about.

if you did 10 seconds of research: you would know:

Pronation and supination are a pair of unique movements possible only in the forearms and hands, allowing the human body to flip the palm either face up or face down. The muscles, bones, and joints of the human forearm are specifically arranged to permit these unique and important rotations of the hands.


do  you have any idea of the danger of lengthening in a straight line bones that curve and bend when you supinate them. you will guaranty loss of function.

you can only lengthen in a straight line, because the bar is straight. you will damage bones that work like this in a really bad way.


I think you should retract your calling kilokahrn stupid, as it now seems jfk that your comment was the uneducated/stupid 1.

Well I am sure that similar things were said about leg lengthening decades ago. I would not judge anyone who wants to do that just like I dont want anyone to judge me for doing ll. It is just funny that someone who gets their leg broken call another operation dangerous and not advisable. Please be more tolerant. Even if it is dangerous now it doesn't mean it will stay like that forever and that there is no way to make it controlable (like ll).

Who are we to judge other people who want lengthen other things than legs?

I also know that Kilokhan is very popular in this forum so I was expecting these kind of reactions. Problem is that I dont give a fk about names and popularity.

[jfk]

I swear all the freaks are out to play now, they justify their dangerous surgery wants such as clavicle lengthening or forearm lengthening and say how dare we "dis-agree" with their dreams because we did leg lengthening and so are hypocrites.

look guys some surgeries are just dangerous so stop attacking the messenger.

lol it would be like us/leg lengtheners saying don't transplant a head its dangerously and then the guy sais you broke your legs just for a few cm's, how dare you tell me not to transplant my head........... seriously there's a massive difference.

I would not judge anyone who wants to get their head transplanted because they are paralyzed from neck down. I would never be able to feel the same way these guys do. I can imagine that it is horrible to live like that. At least that is not a cosmetic surgery like ll. And I am sure these people are ready to die for their dream. So are we.
Again: Who are we to judge them???

Now these people are crazy and we are normal? Just like "normal" people tell us how stupid and crazy we are? Guys please be more tolerant and dont judge people just because you have no idea what they are going through. Pathetic that these things happen on a LL forum...Shame on you guys!

[MRbones]

look you keep demanding people not judge. but your on a forum where people log in to give opinions.

you don't get it, there is a guarantied huge reduction in function.

you will be told its a dumb idea to get surgery, because you would be mutilating your arms. your reduction in function is 100% going to happen because of the nature of the surgery.

your bones can not be lengthened and retain function at the same time. they are diametrically opposed for forearms. any other bone can be lengthened and still achieve minimal reduction in function, even femur as it is load bearing even though it is curved it will undergo bone remodeling over 7 years. the forearm can not.

[Uppland]

Is clavicle lengthening really as dangerous as ulna osteotomy?

I'm trying to find out.

[jfk]

look you keep demanding people not judge. but your on a forum where people log in to give opinions.

you don't get it, there is a guarantied huge reduction in function.

you will be told its a dumb idea to get surgery, because you would be mutilating your arms. your reduction in function is 100% going to happen because of the nature of the surgery.

your bones can not be lengthened and retain function at the same time. they are diametrically opposed for forearms. any other bone can be lengthened and still achieve minimal reduction in function, even femur as it is load bearing even though it is curved it will undergo bone remodeling over 7 years. the forearm can not.

Why and how do you know that?

I just googled it for 10 seconds like you recommended. The operation was done with children and complications occured with some children. Some were fine. I dont know if it is the same thing with adults. I am not a doctor, but it says that the children that were done successfully were happy with the result. It does not seem impossible to me to do this and I think it can be done successfully. But we have to ask some doctors that have done it.

[greatheight]

oh bro i wouldnt do that. not enough cases yet

[MRbones]

first every single surgeon who has actually performed this surgery said it is a bad idea because of the results their patients got.

second do you have any idea how dumb your argument is............. don't you even know the difference in bone remodeling for children and adults....

you do understand that children's bones can auto heal perfectly where as adults loose that ability. you just don't understand, please educate yourself before asking further questions.

and if you educate yourself you will see why ulna lengthening is a really dumb idea.

let me give you some advice, stop insisting your right when you present information if you are ignorant to the topic. humble yourself. 

[MRbones]

A child’s bones heal faster than an adult’s because a thicker, stronger, and more active dense fibrous membrane (periosteum) covers the surface of their bones.[5] The periosteum has blood vessels that supply oxygen and nutrition to the bone cells. The stronger and thicker periosteum in children causes a better supply of oxygen and nutrients to the bones,[6] and this helps in the remodeling of the fractured bones by supplying. The periosteum in children causes a more rapid union of fractured bones and an increased potential for remodeling.[5] A child’s fractures not only heal more quickly, but are significantly reduced due to the thickness and strength of a child’s periosteum.

[Descreteuser]

its kinda like people who said i wouldnt be able to walk with how my bone was aligned... and when i asked for proof for why i wouldnt be able to walk , they told me the proof is the x ray as if they know how to judge an x ray.. id love to get in a room with all these people and see how dumb they really are in real life..

[Overdozer]

http://journal.rniito.org/journal/2009,1/p5.pdf

It's possible, just risky. Ask Dr. Solomin, I'm not sure he'll agree to perform it on you, most likely not.