Topic: Clavicle lengthening (Read 22393 times)

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #31 on:** July 30, 2015, 06:31:42 PM »

Quote from: Sean Connery on July 30, 2015, 06:21:36 PM

This whole idea is terrible. Develop arthritis and chronic pains in your clavicles and you'll be living in nightmare mode the rest of your life.

This has been done on patients before who didn't have these issues post surgery, every procedure has its risks, I understand the risk might be high but that's why I'm open to other ideas such as implants if they gave the illusion of broad shoulders.

Uppland · « **Reply #32 on:** July 31, 2015, 12:14:46 PM »

Quote from: Clavicleboi on July 30, 2015, 05:58:59 PM

I emailed Dr. Leif Rogers yesterday and have yet to get a reply, keep me updated, I've looked up that silicone implants can add 5 cm on each side, but im still interested in this surgery, I know lengthening can technically be done to any bone, but the problem is finding someone to do it.

Silicone implants will only give the illusion of larger pectorals, you might as well build muscles -it'll also be much healthier. To actually broader your shoulder you need to widen the clavicles. We know that a 2-3CM increase is possible, the question is how safe it is?

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #33 on:** August 01, 2015, 12:12:02 PM »

Quote from: Uppland on July 31, 2015, 12:14:46 PM

Silicone implants will only give the illusion of larger pectorals, you might as well build muscles -it'll also be much healthier. To actually broader your shoulder you need to widen the clavicles. We know that a 2-3CM increase is possible, the question is how safe it is?

yeah you're right, most deltoid augmentations do that, I saw this doctor in either New York or Boston who looks like he shaped the implants to add width to each clavicle as I saw the pics, I'd appreciate it if the people who have done LL if they could ask their surgeons
If they would do this type of procedure.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #34 on:** August 01, 2015, 12:21:09 PM »

I'm currently looking for answers myself on this OP, you could help us research as I've been trying to contact surgeons.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #35 on:** August 02, 2015, 04:41:44 PM »

I wish I could literally break my fkin shoulder and get an artificial clavicle srs

MRbones · « **Reply #36 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:05:31 PM »

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claviboy
I wish I could literally break my fkin shoulder and get an artificial clavicle srs

clavi boy, you have some serious mental problems.

I recommend seeing a psychiatrist.

you have body dimorphic disorder where you have an OCD on your clavicles. when in reality in one gives a fk about your clavicle.

this supposed clavicle problem you have is all in your head.

there is a reason no doctor will do it cosmetically.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #37 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:10:00 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 02, 2015, 06:05:31 PM

clavi boy, you have some serious mental problems.

I recommend seeing a psychiatrist.

you have body dimorphic disorder where you have an OCD on your clavicles. when in reality in one gives a fk about your clavicle.

this supposed clavicle problem you have is all in your head.

there is a reason no doctor will do it cosmetically.

Everyone here has some of bdd wether they deny it or not, I wish you were right but having a small frame isn't healthy in general, it's harder to stand up straight and you look like a fking child, listen man I wouldn't even want this surgery if I could wear shoulder pads that make them look broad, but I don't think they make casual shoulder pads for men, I'd rather be below average height than having narrow shoulders anyday, you want to break your legs and be a cripple for months while having long term risks just to grow taller, and that isn't bdd? Ok man

Uppland · « **Reply #38 on:** August 02, 2015, 07:55:03 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 02, 2015, 06:05:31 PM

clavi boy, you have some serious mental problems.

I recommend seeing a psychiatrist.

you have body dimorphic disorder where you have an OCD on your clavicles. when in reality in one gives a fk about your clavicle.

this supposed clavicle problem you have is all in your head.

there is a reason no doctor will do it cosmetically.

Please quit with these arbitrary mental diagnoses, having short clavicles may not be a functional issue but it absolutely looks quite bad. Clavicleboi sounds like he has unusually narrow clavicles, if that hurts his quality of life then that is completely normal -and who are any of us on here to speak? We're preparing to break and alter the anatomy of our legs to gain just a few CM, that's just as crazy.

OverrideYouGenetics · « **Reply #39 on:** August 02, 2015, 08:11:02 PM »

whoever runs this forum need to clamp down on this kind of crap thread along with the other silicon implants in your heels.. sickening..

if you want to look like a man.. hit the gym ffs. it will give you the back of a man and greater shoulder width

crimsontide · « **Reply #40 on:** August 02, 2015, 08:19:19 PM »

this forum has become basically useless

unless one is posting about lengthening 15 cm, or some other crazy procedure, it's impossible to get a discussion going

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #41 on:** August 03, 2015, 05:36:23 AM »

Quote from: kusop on August 02, 2015, 08:11:02 PM

whoever runs this forum need to clamp down on this kind of crap thread along with the other silicon implants in your heels.. sickening..

if you want to look like a man.. hit the gym ffs. it will give you the back of a man and greater shoulder width

I don't the hatred in this thread, we're all insecure about something and mine happens to he my shoulders and yours is your height, I don't belittle you and you shouldn't belittle anyone else who wants to alter their appearance, I have stated before that it's a proven fact that weightlifting does not make your skeleton bigger, people with small frames like me can't build that much muscle in the first place cause our skeleton can't support that much muscle, having narrow shoulders, or a small skeleton is absolute bull

MRbones · « **Reply #42 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:36:30 PM »

clavicle lengthening is a joke. leg lengthening is not a joke.

the 2 are not comparable. different patients have different reasons, some face external discrimination from society, some face internal discrimination.

if external discrimination if the only reason for wanting leg lengthening then that means the person is not insecure.

clavicle lengthening which no orthopedic surgeon will perform is only internal discrimination, internal discrimination means its a mental condition internally only inside your head. and the outside world does not discriminate against you.

stop your rubbish of trying to equate all cosmetic procedures to equally valid to leg lengthening simply because the share a common word "cosmetic".

this is stupid argument.

your clavicle lengthening could be compared to someone who is insecure abut having long toes, and so he wants to break all his toes and shorten them. it does nothing for the external discrimination because there is none its all In your head. where as for leg lengthening there is a very real external discrimination and is scientifically documented with actual research.

if a 7 foot tall man wants leg lengthening, he would have no external discrimination and so we would also tell him he is as mental as you.

you have no grasp on the concept of similarity for these 2 procedures. it is all dependent on whether the person receives internal or external discrimination or both. and this is largely due to the starting height of the leg lengthener, and the average height of his area.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #43 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:49:48 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 03, 2015, 02:36:30 PM

clavicle lengthening is a joke. leg lengthening is not a joke.

the 2 are not comparable. different patients have different reasons, some face external discrimination from society, some face internal discrimination.

if external discrimination if the only reason for wanting leg lengthening then that means the person is not insecure.

clavicle lengthening which no orthopedic surgeon will perform is only internal discrimination, internal discrimination means its a mental condition internally only inside your head. and the outside world does not discriminate against you.

stop your rubbish of trying to equate all cosmetic procedures to equally valid to leg lengthening simply because the share a common word "cosmetic".

this is stupid argument.

your clavicle lengthening could be compared to someone who is insecure abut having long toes, and so he wants to break all his toes and shorten them. it does nothing for the external discrimination because there is none its all In your head. where as for leg lengthening there is a very real external discrimination and is scientifically documented with actual research.

if a 7 foot tall man wants leg lengthening, he would have no external discrimination and so we would also tell him he is as mental as you.

you have no grasp on the concept of similarity for these 2 procedures. it is all dependent on whether the person receives internal or external discrimination or both. and this is largely due to the starting height of the leg lengthener, and the average height of his area.

Stop trying to validate your insecurity, I think you're the one who is somewhat mental, I want my clavicle lengthened for a number of reasons 1. A bigger frame makes it easier for one to stand up straight 2. A bigger skeletal frame allows you to carry more muscle than someone with a smaller frame 3. Narrow shoulders make you look like a little kid 4. Cosmetic purposes
You're insecure about your height no matter what you say, I'm insecure about my skeletal frame size, internal discrimination? Can you even grasp what that even means? Spending thousands of dollars to break your leg for a few inches is not internal discrimination? If you judge someone based on their height you're just as shallow as they are, I don't judge people on their height or their shoulder width, I want this surgery done for ME. You're probably one of those people who will get LL then judge someone for being the height you used to be, please check yourself. You claim your problem is external discrimination from others; give me a break lol do people come up to you with a tape measure and see how tall you are? I'm not judging you for wanting LL and you shouldn't be judging me for his, clavicle lengthening has been done before and has been very successful, I reccommend you don't comment on if it's impossible if you're not a surgeon

microman · « **Reply #44 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:54:13 PM »

actually you DO judge men on there height, everyone does, it is biological, we can't help it.

no one has any bias on men based on their shoulder width, unless it is of course with something far outside the norm.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #45 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:57:14 PM »

Quote from: microman on August 03, 2015, 02:54:13 PM

actually you DO judge men on there height, everyone does, it is biological, we can't help it.

no one has any bias on men based on their shoulder width, unless it is of course with something far outside the norm.

there are shallow people in this world I agree and I know it sucks, but having a small frame fking sucks and people including me have gotten judged for it.

MRbones · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:58:21 PM »

I don't think you have the mental capacity to understand the difference between internal and external discrimination.

I already have had 2 ll surgeries. I am 6"0 tall. and no I was amazing before I became taller. I had already achieved everything in life and everyone respected me and I look like a model.

you on the other hand are 6"1 and you think your a looser and you equate yourself to being better off than your current condition if you were 5"5, you think of yourself as more pathetic than a 5"5 man with large clavicles. that is about as internally insecure as a person can get.

not everyone who gets LL is insecure. a lot of people are but not everyone. in my case I am very competitive and successful.

you need to see a psychiatrist for your insecurities. no one cares about your clavicles. its all in your head.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #47 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:59:45 PM »

"I look like a model" lol so you grew 6 inches and now you're cky as fk? Exactly what I mean, you're just a shallow person in general I really didn't mean I would want to be be 5'5 with larger shoulders, but id give up a few inches to have a bigger skeletal frame

MRbones · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:00:22 PM »

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actually you DO judge men on there height, everyone does, it is biological, we can't help it.

no one has any bias on men based on their shoulder width, unless it is of course with something far outside the norm

good point microman, another aspect is the fact that height is an evolutionary genetic trait. and that is why everyone notices it.

MRbones · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:02:51 PM »

my "look like a model" quote was reference to my body before leg lengthening. namely that I had an 8 pack and a lot of muscles.

you mistake confidence for arrogance incorrectly. I am amazing so naturally I would be confident.

this is foreign to you because you are not confident, you hate yourself. stop hating yourself and become confident. only then can you be happy clavyboy.

Overdozer · « **Reply #50 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:03:07 PM »

Sorry, but you should rename to Fantasyboi. To actually make your shoulders wider you need to lengthen both clavicle and scapula bones and there is not a single surgeon in the world who does that.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #51 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:06:20 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 03, 2015, 03:02:51 PM

my "look like a model" quote was reference to my body before leg lengthening. namely that I had an 8 pack and a lot of muscles.

you mistake confidence for arrogance incorrectly. I am amazing so naturally I would be confident.

this is foreign to you because you are not confident, you hate yourself. stop hating yourself and become confident. only then can you be happy clavyboy.

you obviously hated yourself before you did LL, you keep contradicting yourself I know clavicle lengthening has risks just like every other surgery, but if there was a thing for your shoulders like there is for height (lifts) I wouldn't even want surgery, I already said having narrow shoulders hurts my confidence a little I don't deny that, but you act like you were forced to do LL and you didn't feel insecure about yourself at all and it's because "society made me do it" that's bull lmao

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #52 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:08:24 PM »

Quote from: Dozer on August 03, 2015, 03:03:07 PM

Sorry, but you should rename to Fantasyboi. To actually make your shoulders wider you need to lengthen both clavicle and scapula bones and there is not a single surgeon in the world who does that.

Actually a surgeon by the name of Leif Rogers advertises it on his site and if I don't get them lengthened I won't feel that bad, I understand it could be worse but since it is possible and has been done before I want to keep my options open

MRbones · « **Reply #53 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:11:50 PM »

nope I didn't need surgery, the quality of my life was already very good. it will simply make for a much better quality of life. you make a lot of accusations based on nothing.

you must be desperate to defend yourself if you start making baseless accusations. try to read what a person types, and then respond to it, instead of making it up as you go along.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #54 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:14:11 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 03, 2015, 03:11:50 PM

nope I didn't need surgery, the quality of my life was already very good. it will simply make for a much better quality of life. you make a lot of accusations based on nothing.

you must be desperate to defend yourself if you start making baseless accusations. try to read what a person types instead of making it up as you go along.

Cool story man, you serve no purpose to comment here anymore, I talk to multiple people on this forum who are looking for the same thing, no need to hate bro that "looks like a model and has great life"

MRbones · « **Reply #55 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:20:56 PM »

its funny because your spreading your proportion problem to weak minded insecure individuals on this forum. and that cant be allowed to continue without some sanity in retort.

these poor people are so desperate to look for an escape goat for their problems that they are willing to blame anything about themselves for why they think they are inadequate in life. your advice is only preying on the weak.

clavicle lengthening is not the same as LL. no matter what you say. your advice is dangerous, especially when weak minded individuals read it. hopefully those people will pay attention to what me, dozer, and microman have said about this dangerous procedure. as well as shed light on the fact that no one in the world cares about clavicle length to the point of discriminating against it. its all in your head.

microman · « **Reply #56 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:30:36 PM »

ive known a few tall bean pole like types, i've never seen at as much of a disadvantage, remember people compare you against others so in that respect given that your 6 1 with narrow shoulders you will automatically have a massive advantage over half the men in the room who are 5 10 and under irrespictive of their shoulder widths.

we would still need some pictures to assess the impact, it may very be that you have very narrow shoulders to the point where it's very noticable.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #57 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:32:50 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 03, 2015, 03:20:56 PM

its funny because your spreading your proportion problem to weak minded insecure individuals on this forum. and that cant be allowed to continue without some sanity in retort.

these poor people are so desperate to look for an escape goat for their problems that they are willing to blame anything about themselves for why they think they are inadequate in life. your advice is only preying on the weak.

clavicle lengthening is not the same as LL. no matter what you say. your advice is dangerous, especially when weak minded individuals read it. hopefully those people will pay attention to what me, dozer, and microman have said about this dangerous procedure. as well as shed light on the fact that no one in the world cares about clavicle length to the point of discriminating against it. its all in your head.

Lmao, I didn't say clavicle lengthening is the same as LL for a procedure, it's still altering your appearance, and society didn't tell you to go break your legs, you act like LL isn't dangerous at all, you come across as ignorant, I'm not giving "dangerous advice" to anyone, I'm not telling anyone to try to lengthen their clavicles, and yes people do get discriminated for their shoulder width not as much as height but they still do, I don't want to lengthen my clavicles for discrimination I want it for the reasons I stated, people here stress their lives about proportions when no one outside of this forum care about it, all I want is wider shoulder bones or the illusion of it, as far as I know there's nothing I can wear to give that illusion like shoulder pads casually, some of it is in my head I agree but it just sucks to have a small frame in general no matter what your height is.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #58 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:34:58 PM »

Quote from: microman on August 03, 2015, 03:30:36 PM

ive known a few tall bean pole like types, i've never seen at as much of a disadvantage, remember people compare you against others so in that respect given that your 6 1 with narrow shoulders you will automatically have a massive advantage over half the men in the room who are 5 10 and under irrespictive of their shoulder widths.

we would still need some pictures to assess the impact, it may very be that you have very narrow shoulders to the point where it's very noticable.

I'll be honest it's not very noticeable and it used to be worse until I hit puberty and my shoulders broadened a little bit, I don't even want this surgery if there was something I could wear like lifts, only for shoulders I guess it bothers me a little more cause my dads family has wide shoulders if anyone has any knowledge if they make custom shoulder pads like that for male then I'd appreciate it thanks

MRbones · « **Reply #59 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:45:22 PM »

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I guess it bothers me a little more cause my dads family has wide shoulders

the parallels for you and other excuse makers are astounding lol. its quite funny.

Clavicleboi · « **Reply #60 on:** August 03, 2015, 03:59:58 PM »

Quote from: MRbones on August 03, 2015, 03:45:22 PM

the parallels for you and other excuse makers are astounding lol. its quite funny.

Shut the fk up already lol, you said society made you break your legs and you didn't feel bad about yourself at all, get the hell off this thread, since you got two LL's you're big and bad now lmfao

MRbones · « **Reply #61 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:56:39 PM »

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you said society made you break your legs

uh... no I never said that. your just lying now pretending I said something. society never forced me to do anything.
its true society does externally discriminate against short people. my reasons for LL are based on other things.

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and you didn't feel bad about yourself at all,

incorrect, "at all" indicates a black or white approach, I did see discrimination but it was mild, and overshadowed by all my other attributes which more than made up for not being 6"0 tall. however I wanted a better quality of life which I have now. again you don't even comprehend what is going on with me.

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since you got two LL's you're big and bad now

yes I am quite awesome

for once we agree on something

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