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[Uppland]

Now I don't want to sound defeatist but us forum members are not just short, we are small. That's right no matter how much we raise ourself by elongating our legs we will not grow in size. This is important because in real life we percieve others in three dimensions not just in one vertical measurment, the whole point of being tall(er) is rendered mute if one has the frame of a shorter person. Why? Because the fundamental problem is still unsolved, you're still small.

A person who is 5CM taller than you will have longer clavicles, bigger hands, thicker bones longer and broader torso etc. but it's usually neglieable. A person who is 10CM taller, however, will most likely be noticeably bigger in every way and no amount of leg lengthening is ever going to change that.

If you think you can "get away with" 5 or 6CM in each segment or "pull off" an increase of 9CM, think again, a bit more carefully. Yeah you might look passable to the uninitiated but you will never look very good nor will you instill much respect if that's your goal.

I believe very few of us can do more than 6-7CM whilst still looking good -not tolerable or adequate- but actually having a good looking body. Now some of you might say that you do look good even after a 10CM increase, that people can't see anything wrong with you mock-ups. Perhaps but that is only because there is no reference, put youself next to someone who is naturally tall and the size difference will become painfully apparent.

Remember, height varies a lot but shape doesn't.

[KrP1]

You are wrong. Go to the gym and get muscular. You will be bigger

[microman]

a person 10cm taller than me can have shorter clavicles, smaller hands, thinner bones shorter and narrower torso.

I don't see your point, but wingspan matters.

[Uppland]

a person 10cm taller than me can have shorter clavicles, smaller hands, thinner bones shorter and narrower torso.

I don't see your point, but wingspan matters.

Highly unlikely, can we please skip this kind of anecdotes and just agree that taller people are also bigger overall?

[Uppland]

You are wrong. Go to the gym and get muscular. You will be bigger

Yes yes, but your frame won't grow. You will still be a short(er) muscular man on long legs.

[microman]

Highly unlikely, can we please skip this kind of anecdotes and just agree that taller people are also bigger overall?

no, because I have seen people taller than me with the same frame.

its especially common to see a super tall thin framed guy, which you almost never see in short men, should that super tall thin guy not therefore be shorter in your mind because he simply isn't wide enough for his height?

[Taller]

I would have to disagree. From what I've seen, short mesomorphs and endomorphs tend to have much broader shoulders and torsos than ectomorphs who are ~10 CM taller. Personally, I am very mesomorphic in build, and stand around 10 CM shorter than my own father, but my shoulders are broader, and my neck is longer. My torso is a CM or so shorter, which is hardly noticeable. My arms are about 2-3CM shorter each, again hardly noticeable. My legs are like 7-8 CM shorter, which is an objective measurable difference, and my hands are noticeably smaller, but not drastically so, just a CM or so shorter. But my knees and joints are of exactly the same size. My legs stopped growing when I was around 14 years old while the rest of me grew for a while more. I used to be very long legged as a child between the ages of 9 and 14, but my legs stopped growing much earlier than the rest of my body.

What's more, my grandfather (father of my 188 CM father) is 176 or 177 CM and has bigger hands than ALL of his sons and grandsons. His sons are 188CM, 191CM, and 195CM. All have very big hands but my 176 CM grandfather's hands are bigger. I don't think he was ever taller than 180 CM during his youth.

I have a neighbor who is 178 CM and 26 years old and has bigger hands than another neighbor who stands 194 CM tall.

I have a 167 CM tall friend who has hands exactly the same size as mine and arms nearly the same length. He has a much smaller torso, frame, and head, though.

I know it's anecdotal, but, to me, this disproves what you are saying in a strict sense, although I agree that, generally speaking, shorter people are smaller framed. Yet, there are many more exceptions than you might think, and there is quite a range of proportions throughout the human population. Ask any tailor this (I have) and he or she will confirm that proportions vary a whole lot from person to person!

[Uppland]

@Taller

Is your father unusually narrow and how wide are your shoulders from clavicle to clavicle?

[G-Man]

I get your point but height matters more than width.

[Taller]

@Taller

Is your father unusually narrow and how wide are your shoulders and most suits are fairly tight at the shoulder despite fitting well everywhere else. from clavicle to clavicle?

Not sure how to accurately measure clavicle to clavicle distance. I do got compliments for my shoulder width though. My fathers are about a narrow as you can have to still look normal in every way as a 188 CM man.

I look very, very good in clothes while wearing lifts to reach 188 CM. however, my tibia to femur ratio is then way off (nobody has noticed though, or at least said anything), and I can't safely get to that height in one surgery so I'm going to go with less, which is fine.

[Descreteuser]

i was at the gym today and was sitting next to some dude on separate benches.. i looked at him and compared him to me,, he looked way bigger than me but when i just looked at our clavicles mine were broader....  ive got chicken legs and small waste, but shoulder width of a mesomorph but u dont even notice that if theres not alot of mass.. because without thickness u dont look big at all and im a good example . it proves that shoulder width isnt everything if u dont have much thickness to back it up.. the funny thing is when we were both standing he went from looking massive to not looking big at all cause i had 6 inches on him.. everyone will benefit from being 2 or 3 inches taller depending on your proportions..

The user ewf is a good example.. his shoulder width is similar to mine but he looks way bigger because he has mass everywhere else...

[supergirl]

Proportions are very important so long as they look normal to the nked trained eye. It is obvious that with measurement, things will not be ideal. Plastic surgeons, for example, mostly use their eyesight, instead on relying on tools like the golden ratio, and the phi mask. These will help, yes, but they are not essential.

[Taller]

i was at the gym today and was sitting next to some dude on separate benches.. i looked at him and compared him to me,, he looked way bigger than me but when i just looked at our clavicles mine were broader....  ive got chicken legs and small waste, but shoulder width of a mesomorph but u dont even notice that if theres not alot of mass.. because without thickness u dont look big at all and im a good example . it proves that shoulder width isnt everything if u dont have much thickness to back it up.. the funny thing is when we were both standing he went from looking massive to not looking big at all cause i had 6 inches on him.. everyone will benefit from being 2 or 3 inches taller depending on your proportions..

The user ewf is a good example.. his shoulder width is similar to mine but he looks way bigger because he has mass everywhere else...

So you went to the gym with your monorails on? What did people say or how did they react? I imagine you probably had pants over them. How noticeable are they?

[Descreteuser]

So you went to the gym with your monorails on? What did people say or how did they react? I imagine you probably had pants over them. How noticeable are they?

i had track pants over them.. u can hardly notice them... cause i have crutches it just looks as tho i have a sprained ankle or something.. no one really thinks its anything too wierd.. its a very easily device... sometimes i forget i even have them on..

[microman]

can you fully stand up to view your new height in your current state?