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YellowSpike

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Re: I cancelled my surgery. Make sure you are ready for this.
« Reply #93 on: July 12, 2015, 02:24:15 AM »

I do not want to mention my age but I can say that I am a young man so I still have hope.

If LL is something that's still gonna be on your mind, you need to suck it up and do it. Take it from me. I wasted about 6-7 months going back and forth, that's almost a year I could have saved. The therapist who even cleared me for LL said that height neurosis for those who have it usually never goes away completely. And that has been my experience since was 15. I compensated by being good looking, successful, in shape, and for the most part did well in all areas of my life that I wanted to. But, my confidence always had a ceiling over it a a result of my height. Even though at 5'8" I'm still short, it's not God awful like it was before. And I can choose to do a second LL or not.

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« Reply #94 on: July 12, 2015, 07:51:27 AM »

have you mentioned your age yet, maybe you will be up for it next year?
Crappy thing is he blew so much money on this. Such a waste especially seeing as many people on these forums and even people I know in my life would have loved to do it with Paley.
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Re: I cancelled my surgery. Make sure you are ready for this.
« Reply #95 on: July 12, 2015, 09:14:38 AM »

To be honest man I wouldn't sweat it. I flew to Dr. Paley's and had a consultation with him and then decided there was no way I could do it. Who knows what the long term effects are. You only have one body and it would be a lot worse if you became crippled at 50 years old from arthritis or whatnot. There a lot of people who have it worse. Now when I get down about my height I think of someone I saw skateboarding without arms or legs. They were able to persevere and so can we. There is never going to be another one of you ever, so why change it the way go-d made you? Main reason I wanted to this is for women, and then of course just because I would feel more respected being taller and whatnot. It is annoying not getting respected because of my height but honestly who cares about those peoples opinions. I know go-d put me on this earth to do bigger things than worry about my height and try to get with women. Just embrace who you are because there will never be another you. Plus who knows, maybe down the line there will be safer alternatives.
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« Reply #96 on: July 12, 2015, 09:28:59 AM »

To be honest man I wouldn't sweat it. I flew to Dr. Paley's and had a consultation with him and then decided there was no way I could do it. Who knows what the long term effects are. You only have one body and it would be a lot worse if you became crippled at 50 years old from arthritis or whatnot. There a lot of people who have it worse. Now when I get down about my height I think of someone I saw skateboarding without arms or legs. They were able to persevere and so can we. There is never going to be another one of you ever, so why change it the way go-d made you? Main reason I wanted to this is for women, and then of course just because I would feel more respected being taller and whatnot. It is annoying not getting respected because of my height but honestly who cares about those peoples opinions. I know go-d put me on this earth to do bigger things than worry about my height and try to get with women. Just embrace who you are because there will never be another you. Plus who knows, maybe down the line there will be safer alternatives.

Yeah I would have done it in a heartbeat if I knew it was safe long-term, now I have been on the fence for almost a year just like yellowspike. Been visiting a shrink and I feel a bit better but it's different days you know.
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« Reply #97 on: July 12, 2015, 09:40:06 AM »

I personally think ... If I had the money .. I will definitely do the surgery ...  It's relatively safe if you do it with a good doctor and only length to a certain limit ... This surgery is definitely not for gay boys lol ...  :-) panda x
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« Reply #98 on: July 12, 2015, 11:19:44 AM »

To be honest man I wouldn't sweat it. I flew to Dr. Paley's and had a consultation with him and then decided there was no way I could do it. Who knows what the long term effects are. You only have one body and it would be a lot worse if you became crippled at 50 years old from arthritis or whatnot. There a lot of people who have it worse. Now when I get down about my height I think of someone I saw skateboarding without arms or legs. They were able to persevere and so can we. There is never going to be another one of you ever, so why change it the way go-d made you? Main reason I wanted to this is for women, and then of course just because I would feel more respected being taller and whatnot. It is annoying not getting respected because of my height but honestly who cares about those peoples opinions. I know go-d put me on this earth to do bigger things than worry about my height and try to get with women. Just embrace who you are because there will never be another you. Plus who knows, maybe down the line there will be safer alternatives.

I know what you mean BUT please don't bring g-od into this... If he made me like this and I do not like it, I have every rights to want to change it. Just because he made me a certain way it does not mean I am forced to accept it. I know that I would definitely be happier if I was taller. Personally, I believe g-od has nothing to do with this, whether one believes in him or not, everything is based on genes.

If LL is something that's still gonna be on your mind, you need to suck it up and do it. Take it from me. I wasted about 6-7 months going back and forth, that's almost a year I could have saved. The therapist who even cleared me for LL said that height neurosis for those who have it usually never goes away completely. And that has been my experience since was 15. I compensated by being good looking, successful, in shape, and for the most part did well in all areas of my life that I wanted to. But, my confidence always had a ceiling over it a a result of my height. Even though at 5'8" I'm still short, it's not God awful like it was before. And I can choose to do a second LL or not.



You are right. It will always be at the back of my head... Always.

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« Reply #99 on: July 12, 2015, 12:07:07 PM »

I know what you mean BUT please don't bring g-od into this... If he made me like this and I do not like it, I have every rights to want to change it. Just because he made me a certain way it does not mean I am forced to accept it. I know that I would definitely be happier if I was taller. Personally, I believe g-od has nothing to do with this, whether one believes in him or not, everything is based on genes.

You are right. It will always be at the back of my head... Always.

Give Panda bear your money x
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« Reply #100 on: July 12, 2015, 12:09:45 PM »

have you mentioned your age yet, maybe you will be up for it next year?

Panda thinks he's 10 years old .. Panda bear x
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« Reply #101 on: July 12, 2015, 12:15:12 PM »

I know what you mean BUT please don't bring g-od into this... If he made me like this and I do not like it, I have every rights to want to change it. Just because he made me a certain way it does not mean I am forced to accept it. I know that I would definitely be happier if I was taller. Personally, I believe g-od has nothing to do with this, whether one believes in him or not, everything is based on genes.

You are right. It will always be at the back of my head... Always.

Sad boy ..Don't be afraid... LL surgery is easy to do with a good doctor and moderate lengthing .. Panda bear
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« Reply #102 on: July 12, 2015, 01:26:27 PM »

The surgery is never easy, don't listen to the panda, you've got the right idea about it.

However it's even worse being unhappy with yourself for the rest of your life.
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« Reply #103 on: July 12, 2015, 01:44:19 PM »

The surgery is never easy, don't listen to the panda, you've got the right idea about it.

However it's even worse being unhappy with yourself for the rest of your life.

I know! It's like a dead end. Basically both choices are bad. And I mentioned at the beginning of this topic that my body and appearance is the only thing that keeps me slightly happy in this world. Guys and girls only approach me because of that, including my personality, I'm a nice talkative guy.

I also hate it when people tell me "so what if you are short, at least you are very handsome and have a great body" and I ALWAYS reply to them with the following which ALWAYS keeps their mouth shut

"I wonder what you would tell me if I was ugly..."
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« Reply #104 on: July 12, 2015, 02:19:54 PM »

I know! It's like a dead end. Basically both choices are bad. And I mentioned at the beginning of this topic that my body and appearance is the only thing that keeps me slightly happy in this world. Guys and girls only approach me because of that, including my personality, I'm a nice talkative guy.

I also hate it when people tell me "so what if you are short, at least you are very handsome and have a great body" and I ALWAYS reply to them with the following which ALWAYS keeps their mouth shut

"I wonder what you would tell me if I was ugly..."

It's really hard thinking about how important genetics are in this life, always thought it was really unfair that some people were born good looking and others ugly.

Anyway, you can gain maybe 7CM whilst still being reasonably proportional so you just have to decide if it's worth it.
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« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2015, 07:00:46 PM »

Sad boy ..Don't be afraid... LL surgery is easy to do with a good doctor and moderate lengthing .. Panda bear
Don't be lying now. LL is a serious undertaking and has dominated my life for a whole year. I will say it is worth it, but never say it is easy. If you don't have the fortitude to see it through than you're better off saving your money.
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« Reply #106 on: July 12, 2015, 11:21:30 PM »

It's really hard thinking about how important genetics are in this life, always thought it was really unfair that some people were born good looking and others ugly.

Anyway, you can gain maybe 7CM whilst still being reasonably proportional so you just have to decide if it's worth it.

Why do you think plastic surgery is drastically increasing amongst women AND MEN? Of course looks are important to society. People judge you strictly according to everything.

Let me tell you an example of what I've seen in my daily life. Basically I was walking with a group of friends and some girls noticed a lonely "ugly" guy at the corner of a cafeteria checking them out. Their reactions were "eew, what a creep, look at him? He is so disgusting, no wonder why he is a loner..."

Thankfully!! A week later we passed through the same cafeteria with the same group and this time there was an attractive loner at the very back of the cafeteria. I am saying thankfully because this proves my point. The girls said "wow, check out that hotty at the corner all alone... He is mysterious and sexy."

It's a shame really, if the guy was ugly the girls or anyone wouldn't say the quote above that's for sure. They will judge him as the first guy I mentioned....

Sigh, society never stops amazing me with its high standards...
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« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2015, 12:09:27 AM »

Yeah I would have done it in a heartbeat if I knew it was safe long-term, now I have been on the fence for almost a year just like yellowspike. Been visiting a shrink and I feel a bit better but it's different days you know.

I understand that with you, the issue is that you feel short compared to your father and I suppose some of your friends, since you live in a very tall country. I'm not in any way attempting to minimize your feelings, but at least your height of 5'10" (I believe) is really only slightly below average in only Sweden (everywhere else, you're average at worst). I was short no matter how you slice it. I actually never really experienced height discrimination per se and have been pretty successful in my life, but my confidence always had a ceiling due to being very short. I went out with some friends last night before having a girl over, and got 3 other girls' numbers in the course of an hour. At the bar, I was still on shorter end compared to the guys that were there, but was taller than all but two girls there (and one of those girls was ultra tall at 6'1"). So it's definitely helped my confidence overall. I was on the fence about LL for half a year, but knew in the back of my mind I eventually had to do it, as I just couldn't forget about the prospect of being taller (and at my height, there was no question that I needed it).

The problem with LL too is that even if you do it, you're faced with either settling for a lower gain for a faster recovery or enduring more for a better gain. I pushed as far as I could to 7cm (only stopped because my surgeon ordered me to lol), and still might do another 2-2.5cm next year (depending on where my life is that point). I say for all those who do it, shoot for as much as you safely can, even if the recovery will be longer. You want your reward to be worth the cost.

Also, as much as it sucks, looks are very important. I would never date a fat girl because I don't find them attractive at all. If there was some sort of workout that could increase my height, I'd have been 6'2" since the age of 16...but, the only way to get taller unfortunately is to go through LL. I saw an article where a wife of a Dr. G patient said she'd have never dated her husband if he had been his former height. As much as that sucks, it's just par for the course. If a woman lost a lot of weight and became attractive to me (and I wouldn't have dated her previously), it's kinda the same thing. Only, she didn't need surgery to lose weight.

Women in general I would say have very high standards, especially the desirable ones (but, really, all women think they're 10/10s, since online dating greatly inflates their egos - I'm one of the few men that doesn't automatically swipe right). So it behooves short men even more to do this, as much as it royally blows.
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« Reply #108 on: July 13, 2015, 01:16:55 AM »

So basically it all comes down to ego insecurity in order to not be outcast by the other people who also are ego insecure.
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