Topic: Involgograd:s diary. External ilizarov in russia, volgograd - Dr Barinov (Read 42368 times)

involgograd · « **Reply #93 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:26:27 PM »

volgograd in the summer

involgograd · « **Reply #94 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:28:02 PM »

summer
in front of building, 7th floor is the clinic

involgograd · « **Reply #95 on:** July 12, 2015, 01:33:36 PM »

old shower, difficult to use, i think they changed it. remember to ask them to address problems.

involgograd · « **Reply #96 on:** July 13, 2015, 06:39:50 AM »

---no pictures of valgus when worst

day of surgery

valgus almost gone, left is worse, right is straight

standing, left is worse, right is straight

involgograd · « **Reply #97 on:** July 13, 2015, 06:42:12 AM »

bare bed

good stretch

involgograd · « **Reply #98 on:** July 13, 2015, 09:40:35 AM »

125
...
130

involgograd · « **Reply #99 on:** July 13, 2015, 09:41:26 AM »

131
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135
still nothing

involgograd · « **Reply #100 on:** July 29, 2015, 08:58:51 AM »

136...
137...
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140

bring proteinpowder, dvitamin and isolated elemental calcium.
i ate less than rec. 1000mg+ of calcium daily and got some osteoporosis because of the fraudulent labelling of calcium
1000mg of calcium carbonate is 400mg calc and 600mg useless carbonate, citrate even worse.
read up on elemental calcium.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/450630-diet-after-bone-fracture-surgery/

involgograd · « **Reply #101 on:** July 29, 2015, 07:16:55 PM »

warning! prices have risen a lot. patients are advised to get new info from clinic.

involgograd · « **Reply #102 on:** August 04, 2015, 04:29:26 AM »

141
142 feet been noticably shrunken latest week.
143 ...
144
145

do ll during the summer, more d vitamin.
you do not get d vitamin through windows.

warning! prices have risen a lot: hospital stay price, nail price etc
one day in hospital now costso 3000rubles, 30 days first operation stay 90 000 rubles,
approximately 1800 euro.
that does not include prices for test consultations xray and more

nail prices have recently doubled from 70000 for 2 to 140000.
the explanation given by VEKTOR-salesman, then doctor, then oksana was that nails are
bought from eu country and that 1 euro was 40 rubles which resulted in 70000r
for nails, but now the euro is 70, somehow illogically doubling the price to 140000r.
if that is true, the nails should only go up less than 50%, like to 100000r,
because an increase from 40 to 70 is an increase less than 50%
so somebody is cheating the patients!
just beware

involgograd · « **Reply #103 on:** August 04, 2015, 04:34:06 AM »

146
147
148
149
150 ....

buy a big fannypack for money and phone etc.
backpacks wont work
shoulder bags work bad

involgograd · « **Reply #104 on:** August 06, 2015, 05:23:33 AM »

WARNING. DO NOT GO TO VOLGOGRAD BEFORE YOU DISCUSS THESE PROBLEMS WITH CLINIC

THE CLINIC ASSISTANT HAS TOLD CURRENT PATIENTS THAT THERE ARE MAJOR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS FOR PATIENTS IN THE CLINIC AND POTENTIAL PATIENTS.
PROBLEMS CAUSED ENTIRELY BY THE CLINIC´S MANAGEMENT AND DIRECTOR OKSANA.
BUDGETS HAVE BEEN EXCEEDED AND RUINED AND PATIENTS ARE EXTREMELY ANGRY WITH OKSANA.

THERE HAVE BEEN PRICE CHANGES WITH THE HOSPITAL AND WITH NAILS.
OKSANA KNEW ABOUT THESE CHANGES AND TOLD NOBODY ABOUT THEM.
SHE KNEW THE HOSPITAL HAD RAISED PRICES SINCE MARCH AND NOW IT IS AUGUST AND SHE TOLD NO PATIENT. SHE WITHHELD THE INFORMATION FIVE MONTHS!
SHE KNEW NAIL PRICES HAD RISEN IN MIDDLE OF JULY, AND TOLD NO PATIENT!

SHE DISREPECTFULLY AND DAMAGINGLY DELAYS UNTIL LITERALLY THE END, THE DAY BEFORE SURGERY BEFORE SHE TELLS A PATIENT.

kpa · « **Reply #105 on:** August 06, 2015, 05:58:47 PM »

an increase from 40 to 70 is an increase of 75%

MRbones · « **Reply #106 on:** August 06, 2015, 07:50:50 PM »

I would never go to this clinic, what they did to fk the patients out of money is disgusting.

go to pariah in india. he trained under paley, and has the fabled Taylor spatial frame.

Arch · « **Reply #107 on:** August 06, 2015, 08:56:12 PM »

They are just way to expensive, I was thinking to go Volvograd early 2016 but after they rised their price by over 50% it just ruined my whole planning, I'll be heading to India ..

involgograd · « **Reply #108 on:** August 09, 2015, 04:35:13 PM »

correction:
there was an error about doubting the change of the ruble value.
a mean and false comment was made without checking currency rates.
the reason was a strong negative reaction to the substantial impact on a budget.

the information the doctor and oksana provided is true.
the euro to ruble: it was 30+ then 40+ from 2010 to 2014 and then changed chaotically between 90 , 80, 50 , 60 and then now around 60-70.
http://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/eurofxref-graph-rub.en.html

a sincere apology for the error.

involgograd · « **Reply #109 on:** August 09, 2015, 04:43:00 PM »

there needs to be a correction to this statement:
--SHE KNEW NAIL PRICES HAD RISEN IN MIDDLE OF JULY, AND TOLD NO PATIENT!--
correction: the patient assistant has informed that current patients were told at the same time, which was a number of days after that the nailcompany had been contacted and prices found out.
this revelation happened about a week before a planned surgery.

the misunderstanding is that every patient did not know if other patients got the information.
all patients are not living in the clinic.
the tone reflects the substantial impact on a predetermined budget.
a sincere apology for this error.

involgograd · « **Reply #110 on:** August 09, 2015, 04:49:23 PM »

the situation has been confusing and impacting on the budget.
please do not follow the prices mentioned here.

please get all the current price info from the clinic.

involgograd · « **Reply #111 on:** August 23, 2015, 09:50:29 AM »

the end of the diary. not own choice and own choice at the same time.
ready to move on. legs are healthy and getting better.

general questions about this experience:
are there good aspects: yes
are there problems: yes
could there be improvements:yes
are the problems critical: mostly no
are the problems dealbreakers: mostly no
can a person ultimately accept the problems: probably yes

should a person have to deal with these problems: no
are there problems with any ll clinic? probably yes

conclusion=
do ll in any clinic of your well informed choice.
do prepare for the standard pains, insomnia, and discomforts.
do demand a list of all info, services, costs, tests and ask every question about any of the places you choose before you order a planeticket.

please turn any questions to the person in charge of international patients of any clinic you are interested in.

Wintersleep · « **Reply #112 on:** August 23, 2015, 11:55:08 AM »

Quote from: Arch on August 06, 2015, 08:56:12 PM

They are just way to expensive, I was thinking to go Volvograd early 2016 but after they rised their price by over 50% it just ruined my whole planning, I'll be heading to India ..

Why not Dr. Solomin?

tx1111 · « **Reply #113 on:** August 23, 2015, 02:00:52 PM »

Hello

Great diary

I think I have missed it although I did recheck your diary briefly so I have these questions:

How much did you end up lengthening?

How long was your distraction phase?

Did any complications affect the length of distraction phase?

How long was your consolidation phase?

Did any complications affect the length of consolidation phase?

You say you are endidng diary because legs are healthy? Does the mean you are walking normal or just unaided?

Thanks

Limb Lengthening Forum

Poll

LATN. I highly recommend going to Barinov in Volgograd for price-quality (less than 13500 if you get apartment after hospital stay) ratio. Would you go?

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