Topic: Proportions: Former CLL patient (Read 20167 times)

Polycrates. · « **Reply #31 on:** June 29, 2015, 02:54:24 PM »

That is all that I can hope for from others who view this. I'm sure if you asked someone to spot something off and they took a long hard look they might point out the ratio abnormality, but as long as people can honestly answer that it's not an instant or immediate call to attention as it is for me, then that would be good peace of mine. I see it right away, but that's probably because it's the one thing I'm looking for.

microman · « **Reply #32 on:** June 29, 2015, 02:57:59 PM »

I thought having a tibia the same as femur was statistically possible?

Polycrates. · « **Reply #33 on:** June 29, 2015, 03:25:38 PM »

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Polycrates. · « **Reply #34 on:** June 29, 2015, 03:39:01 PM »

Because I started at an average height, the extra 2+ inches puts my knees in a very high +99%ile. I had a a few studies downloaded, one of which was an army study from 1995. An extra inch from the 50th percentile of knee height was the 85th percentile, and an additional inch and a bit on top of that was the 99th percentile.

I also read another study where +/-2 standard deviations from average tibial length was 5.62cm. I had wanted to do 5.5cm initially, and was told at the end that I had done 6.3cm.... I would've done 2cm less than I have and had been content with it if I could go back.

microman · « **Reply #35 on:** June 29, 2015, 03:45:35 PM »

it's noticable, but i'm not sure what the impact would be in your life, some people have quirky things about them like lazy eye etc. to me that isn't too hard to live with, i personally can't think of any point in my life while sitting down if i have looked at peoples tib to femur ratio.

I love to wear shorts around the house, I take it you look a bit wierd in shorts?

I think i would end up in your situation anyway, pretty sure post op i will have tib and femur ratio being the same, isnt' that what most people end up like after 1x LL?

Uppland · « **Reply #36 on:** June 29, 2015, 05:00:33 PM »

Does people notice your long legs or your tall tibiae?

Perhaps both?

Polycrates. · « **Reply #37 on:** June 29, 2015, 05:02:48 PM »

Probably, based on all the looks.

Alittletooshort · « **Reply #38 on:** June 29, 2015, 05:57:20 PM »

Polycrates,
Do you think your disproportion would be less noticable if you added the height to your femurs intead of your tibias?
From what I've seen so far tibia patients are generally easiert to spot in terms of proportions, would you agree on that?

Polycrates. · « **Reply #39 on:** June 29, 2015, 06:05:08 PM »

The only way would have been to do it along both segments.

Polycrates. · « **Reply #40 on:** June 29, 2015, 06:33:06 PM »

It could also be that photos magnify the effect, or that mirrors mitigate the effect, because when I bend my leg and look in a mirror, it doesn't look odd. When I take a photo of it, then the disproportion becomes apparent...

Mw1245 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 29, 2015, 06:56:09 PM »

I also think you are looking better than on the pictures

Polycrates. · « **Reply #42 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:02:11 PM »

My sitting height is just under 90cm, so my legs are 4 cm longer than upper body, giving me a 0.49 SHR. That puts me at about 1 standard deviation below average sitting height, as per this thread: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=174.0, so I am definitely long legged. Programdude is the only person I've had a chance to see in person, and he did mention me being long legged, but not disproportional.

YellowSpike · « **Reply #43 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:17:24 PM »

Quote from: Polycrates. on June 29, 2015, 07:02:11 PM

My sitting height is just under 90cm, so my legs are 4 cm longer than upper body, giving me a 0.49 SHR. That puts me at about 1 standard deviation below average sitting height, as per this thread: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=174.0, so I am definitely long legged. Programdude is the only person I've had a chance to see in person, and he did mention me being long legged, but not disproportional.

Your sitting height right under 90cm? Interesting, my sitting height is like 89cm (per Dr. G)...and I think you were already a good amount taller than me (I was 166cm before LL).

PD is also an LL patient of course, so maybe he was looking for it? Most people I'm sure won't know/care that much.

Polycrates. · « **Reply #44 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:41:16 PM »

Were you a bit overweight or have large thigh muscles? Perhaps that elevated you to 90cm. Interesting to note that I am 1sd below average dutch sitting height, but 1sd above average dutch leg length, as per this site: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1720514/

It also says, since I am 50th percentile dutch height (0sd), I could qualify for Marfan syndrome with my SHR...

YellowSpike · « **Reply #45 on:** June 29, 2015, 07:46:06 PM »

Quote from: Polycrates. on June 29, 2015, 07:41:16 PM

Were you a bit overweight or have large thigh muscles? Perhaps that elevated you to 90cm.

Yeah that was probably it, I have/had naturally big thighs/big butt. Not so much now, but working on getting them back. Hoping muscle mememory and hard work eventually help me.

Alittletooshort · « **Reply #46 on:** June 29, 2015, 08:54:27 PM »

What was your starting height polycrates? I suppose around 177?
I measured my sitting height a couple of times now and it was always between 96-98cm at a height of 178≈. I do have a long upperbody and a long neck but your SH seems a bit low for your height, doesn't it? Or would you describe your SH as average? I'm just curious because the numbers are so different although our genetic height is almost the same.

Polycrates. · « **Reply #47 on:** June 29, 2015, 09:58:37 PM »

90/178~=0.51, so it was spot on average pretty much. Yours, at 0.55, is extremely high for the height.

Uppland · « **Reply #48 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:00:50 PM »

Quote from: Polycrates. on June 29, 2015, 07:02:11 PM

My sitting height is just under 90cm, so my legs are 4 cm longer than upper body, giving me a 0.49 SHR. That puts me at about 1 standard deviation below average sitting height, as per this thread: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=174.0, so I am definitely long legged. Programdude is the only person I've had a chance to see in person, and he did mention me being long legged, but not disproportional.

I don´t know my sitting height but I believe my "true inseam" (measured from a book shoved up my crotch) is 46% of my total height. If I lengthen 7CM it will be about 47,8%, I´ve looked at my proportions after 7CM and I do look quite long-legged in 3CM shoes. I recommend that you try to widen your shoulders as that mitigates the "lanky" effect, that was my advice when you asked my thoughts in a PM as well.

Oh, and is programdude as good looking as he says IRL?

Polycrates. · « **Reply #49 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:02:04 PM »

From the Dutch study scatter plot, it shows that I am still in the circle of normalcy with my SHR and overall height. Quite a few dots around it, actually.

Alittletooshort · « **Reply #50 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:17:38 PM »

Quote from: Uppland on June 29, 2015, 10:00:50 PM

Oh, and is programdude as good looking as he says IRL?

I was about to ask him the same question lol

Polycrates. · « **Reply #51 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:22:02 PM »

I wouldn't be at liberty to say; beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Uppland · « **Reply #52 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:25:51 PM »

Quote from: Polycrates. on June 29, 2015, 10:22:02 PM

I wouldn't be at liberty to say; beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Such a cop-out

KrP1 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:33:14 PM »

I have 90/ 91cm sitting height for 165. So i think is perfectly normal

Polycrates. · « **Reply #54 on:** June 29, 2015, 10:55:40 PM »

I am still happy that I did tibia. My femurs already look long in the sitting photo. I can imagine what an extra 6cm outward with short tibia would look like. With tibia they look as long as femurs but not drastically noticeable in my opinion.

Polycrates. · « **Reply #55 on:** June 30, 2015, 12:32:05 AM »

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Here is a standing view. Looks less obvious than the sitting in my view.

Overdozer · « **Reply #56 on:** June 30, 2015, 01:31:11 PM »

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Polycrates. · « **Reply #57 on:** June 30, 2015, 01:40:59 PM »

I agree it's concealable. The only one that really sticks out to me is the sitting one, but I guess I can sit with legs folded under to mitigate that effect.

microman · « **Reply #58 on:** June 30, 2015, 02:33:20 PM »

while i was outside today i tried to see if i could tell where peoples kneecaps were, pretty hard to do so, and that would only be possible from a distance, as soon as you were beside someone you couldn't tell where his kneecaps were.

Polycrates. · « **Reply #59 on:** June 30, 2015, 09:06:23 PM »

Maybe. It is easy for me to see, and when sitting, that is the worst time to see the disparity.

microman · « **Reply #60 on:** June 30, 2015, 09:21:46 PM »

Actually, yeah that's pretty true, also i noticed while walking you can easily look down at your knees yourself and see you kneecaps, but i don't think others can.

Blackhawk · « **Reply #61 on:** June 30, 2015, 09:49:27 PM »

I don't think your tibs look abnormally long. It's probably something you are focusing on too much but no one else notices. What is your knee height?

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