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[microman]

ok great, in the other diary for barinov it was said that getting knocked out with general anethesia for the operation caused a big headache, and it was recomended to not be knocked out during the operation but instaed to listen to loud music with headphones, would you recomend something similar?

can you let mitkovic know 'microman' sent an E-mail today for a LL op. maybe a good word would put me at an advantage.

I know mitkovic only does a few patients a year, let's hope he will allow another one quickly.

let me remind you i am 164.5, so my need is very high, i know you put this op. on and off for some time, but for me its big emergency im 13cm below the average need help fast!

there is nothing stopping me going to serbia soon, unlike intivation leter or visa, so maybe i will meet you there soon, how long do you have left?

a question about air travel, i can arrive in london at either 4:30pm or 7:10pm, but the serbian flight is at 8pm in the same airport, would arriving at 7:10pm be okay or is it risky. the whole journey ends up being quite long so I would like to not have to wait 3.5 hours if I don't have to.

actually the 7:10pm one is on thursday, and 4:30 one on tuesday, do you know if mitkovic does surgery on weekends, im just worried if he books friday then delays until monday how annoying that would be.

am I to understand that mitkovics device is 'fully weight-bearing' and that the ilazarov is not weight bearing?

for going home for consolodation can I use crutches instead of a wheelchair? this assumes I leave as soon as lengthening is done, i'd love to not have to use a wheelchair while going home on airport.

I am trying to asses my mobility when i leave for home, do you think it would be possible for me to leave the airport from home and get on a train to my town and doing this all in crutches/walker?

I am having a hard time understanding differences between walker and crutches.

[microman]

another question, there are many but im planning to go so...

can mitkovic knock you out after the surgery again if the pain gets too high, I just don't see the benefit of being awake during this time as you are not lengthening.

also how does calling home say to UK from serbia work, do you use your personal mobile phone, can it be done, how much more does it cost, maybe you use something better to call home, any special tips.

for the adapter is this the correct item, just want to make sure.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Go-Travel-Adaptor-into-Adapter-Wei%C3%9F/dp/B000MVDD2E


also what do you do about clothes and baths while there, i was thinking maybe you use a bed bath type solution, but im not sure about cloths and underwear.

and do i need to bring any forks, knifes or plate with me at all.

also in the case of having to do a re-surgery, what is the cost of that, and what are the chances of that happening percentage wise.

and about money, along wipth paying hotel and taxis, how do you get serbian money out, did you get a certain amount out before leaving for serbia?

[Taller]

Are you expecting to make a full athletic recovery at this point? Do most of Dr. Mitkovic's patients who lengthen 4-5CM make a full athletic recovery?

[Descreteuser]

ok great, in the other diary for barinov it was said that getting knocked out with general anethesia for the operation caused a big headache, and it was recomended to not be knocked out during the operation but instaed to listen to loud music with headphones, would you recomend something similar?

can you let mitkovic know 'microman' sent an E-mail today for a LL op. maybe a good word would put me at an advantage.

I know mitkovic only does a few patients a year, let's hope he will allow another one quickly.

let me remind you i am 164.5, so my need is very high, i know you put this op. on and off for some time, but for me its big emergency im 13cm below the average need help fast!

there is nothing stopping me going to serbia soon, unlike intivation leter or visa, so maybe i will meet you there soon, how long do you have left?

a question about air travel, i can arrive in london at either 4:30pm or 7:10pm, but the serbian flight is at 8pm in the same airport, would arriving at 7:10pm be okay or is it risky. the whole journey ends up being quite long so I would like to not have to wait 3.5 hours if I don't have to.

actually the 7:10pm one is on thursday, and 4:30 one on tuesday, do you know if mitkovic does surgery on weekends, im just worried if he books friday then delays until monday how annoying that would be.

am I to understand that mitkovics device is 'fully weight-bearing' and that the ilazarov is not weight bearing?

for going home for consolodation can I use crutches instead of a wheelchair? this assumes I leave as soon as lengthening is done, i'd love to not have to use a wheelchair while going home on airport.

I am trying to asses my mobility when i leave for home, do you think it would be possible for me to leave the airport from home and get on a train to my town and doing this all in crutches/walker?

I am having a hard time understanding differences between walker and crutches.

no just get knocked out you wont have a headache. ill speak to him and let him know you sent him an email. i have about 4 to 5 months left. arriving at 7:10pm would be fine youd have enough time to get the 8pm flight. waiting another few days for surgery wont hurt you.. he does operate on weekends but its normally a week after you arrive. this device is full weight bearing although you dont fully weight bear until about 4 to 5 months after surgery. after lengthening period you should be able to get around  with walker but its slow. stairs are also a problem. walker is much safer than crutches as it provides more support.

[Descreteuser]

another question, there are many but im planning to go so...

can mitkovic knock you out after the surgery again if the pain gets too high, I just don't see the benefit of being awake during this time as you are not lengthening.

also how does calling home say to UK from serbia work, do you use your personal mobile phone, can it be done, how much more does it cost, maybe you use something better to call home, any special tips.

for the adapter is this the correct item, just want to make sure.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Go-Travel-Adaptor-into-Adapter-Wei%C3%9F/dp/B000MVDD2E


also what do you do about clothes and baths while there, i was thinking maybe you use a bed bath type solution, but im not sure about cloths and underwear.

and do i need to bring any forks, knifes or plate with me at all.

also in the case of having to do a re-surgery, what is the cost of that, and what are the chances of that happening percentage wise.

and about money, along wipth paying hotel and taxis, how do you get serbian money out, did you get a certain amount out before leaving for serbia?

being knocked out isnt as simple as flicking a switch.. it requires an anesthesiologist who costs money so painkillers and sleeping pills are the way to go if the pain gets too much.. but honestly dont worry about the pain its not that bad.. calling home would be best using skype.. setup a skype account when you get here.. yes thats the right adaptor.. i have showers..have my legs sticking out of the tray which are covered by my pants and a towel to protect the device.. than just wash myself. clothes can be washed by hotel staff whenever you need. no need to bring knives or forks its all here lol.. most common resurgery is recutting the fibula which is about 1200 euros.. but if your only doing 5cm and dont stuff around at the start like i did chances of you have to have that are about 5 %. i just had euros and had them transfered across the street from the hotel to serbian dinars.

[Descreteuser]

Are you expecting to make a full athletic recovery at this point? Do most of Dr. Mitkovic's patients who lengthen 4-5CM make a full athletic recovery?

yeah i only did 4cm.. the doctor told me 100% recovery athletically.. it will take about a year and a half post op to be athletically normal.. but as i dont play any sport it wont matter.. as long as i can walk completely normal after 7-9 months im happy.

[Morgenst.]

Hey D. any clue how many cosmetic LL patients Dr Mitkovic takes per year?
how long prior to surgery he likes to schedule?
Additionally how is payment handled?

[Descreteuser]

Hey D. any clue how many cosmetic LL patients Dr Mitkovic takes per year?
how long prior to surgery he likes to schedule?
Additionally how is payment handled?

 
about 5-6.. im the only one who has surgery this year so far.. he said there is 2 coming at the end of this month and 3 others havent got back to him.. you can normally tell him when you want to have it.. its normally up to you. pay by card or cash

[microman]

okay so i pay for the operation by a standard UK card?

as far as cash in hand is concerned, you said you had euros, does that mean you got our money converet into euros before you left UK/US, and then with those euros you can exchange them for dinars next to the hotel, if that is true how much euros in cash/hand should i have before leaving.

I had a word with my GP and hospital, they said they would only clean pin sites via a nurse in local doctors office, they wouldn't have to admit me into hospital for that, as far as x-rays go they would need a referal from a doctor to do the x-ray, and that would be private, they wont do an x-ray without a doctor referal, does all this sound okay.

[Morgenst.]

Got it Thanks. Do you have to pay in advance of once you get there?

[Descreteuser]

okay so i pay for the operation by a standard UK card?

as far as cash in hand is concerned, you said you had euros, does that mean you got our money converet into euros before you left UK/US, and then with those euros you can exchange them for dinars next to the hotel, if that is true how much euros in cash/hand should i have before leaving.

I had a word with my GP and hospital, they said they would only clean pin sites via a nurse in local doctors office, they wouldn't have to admit me into hospital for that, as far as x-rays go they would need a referal from a doctor to do the x-ray, and that would be private, they wont do an x-ray without a doctor referal, does all this sound okay.

yeah standard uk card is fine.. if i were you i would just get your money transferred to serbian dinars before getting on your flight to come here. id say if you had 40,000 dinars which is about 250 british pounds that would be enough to get you going for a while. your money goes along way here. for gettin money in the future, the owner of the hotel will go get money out from the atm whenever you need and bring you your money to your hotel room. hes very trustworthy and helpful. over here you dont need any referrals to get x rays.

[Descreteuser]

Got it Thanks. Do you have to pay in advance of once you get there?

na you just go visit the surgery place a few days before the surgery and pay.

[microman]

okay i wil get some dinars ready, i take it you pay the hotel via card as well, and dinar cash is for mitkovic drivers at the airport, food for hotel and taxi.

maybe i may take out 80,000 just in case as i need to pay the drivers of course.

for x ray i meant when i go home for consolodation, at home the only way to get an x-ray is with referal.

also how hard wolud it be to clean my own pin sites and change bandages each week, my doctor told me I would be able to spot nifections myself very easily anyway, maybe i should only go to the doctor if I see an infection.

for the plugs does the hotel room have more than 2 sockets, just don't want to make sure I can have laptop permanently on while playing/charging 3DS and make sure the phone mitkovic gives me is charged enough in case of emergency, I know it's a small thing but i'd like to be sure and buy an extension if necessary beforehand in the UK.

also you have only briefly mentioned physio, can you give a more in depth explanation of what you do, how long for, what kind of stretching etc.

should I bring shaving cream and razor to shave my legs before surgery, or is that not necessary with this device?

[Descreteuser]

okay i wil get some dinars ready, i take it you pay the hotel via card as well, and dinar cash is for mitkovic drivers at the airport, food for hotel and taxi.

maybe i may take out 80,000 just in case as i need to pay the drivers of course.

for x ray i meant when i go home for consolodation, at home the only way to get an x-ray is with referal.

also how hard wolud it be to clean my own pin sites and change bandages each week, my doctor told me I would be able to spot nifections myself very easily anyway, maybe i should only go to the doctor if I see an infection.

for the plugs does the hotel room have more than 2 sockets, just don't want to make sure I can have laptop permanently on while playing/charging 3DS and make sure the phone mitkovic gives me is charged enough in case of emergency, I know it's a small thing but i'd like to be sure and buy an extension if necessary beforehand in the UK.

also you have only briefly mentioned physio, can you give a more in depth explanation of what you do, how long for, what kind of stretching etc.

should I bring shaving cream and razor to shave my legs before surgery, or is that not necessary with this device?

yeah u should be fine cleaning it urself. yeah theres more than 2 sockets in the room.. physio you do yourself i could show u when u r here. shaving cream would be handy as they dont have any.. i had to use soap it took me ages. they suply you with the razor.

[microman]

Wow, good I remembered about the shaving cream.

good news i can clean the pin sites myself during consolodation, as long as i know what an infection looks like I guess at that point I will need to see the local doctor as soon as that happens?

you mentioned changing bandages, can you recommend what type of bandages I should get, it is so when I go home I have 5 months of weekly bandages ready for me.

what is the best pair of trousers to wear during consolodation, that may help in making sure I don't get an infection, you mentiond track pants once, maybe i should get it modded at the tailor so it has a side zip?

[Descreteuser]

Wow, good I remembered about the shaving cream.

good news i can clean the pin sites myself during consolodation, as long as i know what an infection looks like I guess at that point I will need to see the local doctor as soon as that happens?

you mentioned changing bandages, can you recommend what type of bandages I should get, it is so when I go home I have 5 months of weekly bandages ready for me.

what is the best pair of trousers to wear during consolodation, that may help in making sure I don't get an infection, you mentiond track pants once, maybe i should get it modded at the tailor so it has a side zip?

the nurses here can tell u what type of bandages.. track pants are fine you an just pull them up no need for a zip

[microman]

I have asked mitkovic about femur, maybe things can go faster for me

does mitkovic offer to purchase the wheelchair, as if i need to have one going home I will need to buy it.

[truthtell100]

Does Mitkovic provide good aftercare?

[Descreteuser]

•   Friday 12th June – I thought after having my daily walk inside my hotel room that id try walking without the support of the walker for the first time. I let go of the walker and tried walking forward. To my surprise I was able to do it. I spent the next 10 minutes placing the walker in front of me and walking towards it without holding it. It had only been 3 months since the operation on my left leg and nearly 4 months since my right leg. My legs were now strong enough to 100% weight bear. This is a great result as it means I am well on track to be walking fully unaided in the next month to month and a half. The knee extension and equines on my right leg is still a bit behind. Hoping to have it completely stretched out within the next month or 2. Im currently using 10 kilos on my right leg and 5 kilos on my left when stretching. The equines and knee extension on my left leg is almost at 100%.

[Descreteuser]

I have asked mitkovic about femur, maybe things can go faster for me

does mitkovic offer to purchase the wheelchair, as if i need to have one going home I will need to buy it.

im not sure

[Descreteuser]

Does Mitkovic provide good aftercare?

he visits you where you are staying if you have any questions or problems

[ewf]

Hi Descreteuser,

Could you tell me approximately, how much do you weigh? I currently weigh around 94kg and am a little worried I need to continue to lose a bit more weight before considering this device.

P.S., please see the last PM I sent you, thanks!

[Descreteuser]

Hi Descreteuser,

Could you tell me approximately, how much do you weigh? I currently weigh around 94kg and am a little worried I need to continue to lose a bit more weight before considering this device.

P.S., please see the last PM I sent you, thanks!

i was about 80 to 85kg. I have chicken legs tho so if you have bigger legs chances are you will lose alot more weight in your legs after you are not using them.. id try and get as lean and fit as possible before the surgery it will make it easier when eventually trying to walk.. if you are a bit overweight now maybe try and drop to 85kg before the surgery because trying to lose it after the surgery will be impossible.

[ewf]

Awesome. That's not too far off my weight. I'm naturally quite muscular but I could stand to lose more weight beforehand for sure 

[Descreteuser]

Awesome. That's not too far off my weight. I'm naturally quite muscular but I could stand to lose more weight beforehand for sure 

i wouldnt worry.. you only have to worry about the weight that your legs are holding not the actual weight in your legs.. you could easily have 10kg more in your legs than me so id say ud be fine at 94kg

[ewf]

i wouldnt worry.. you only have to worry about the weight that your legs are holding not the actual weight in your legs.. you could easily have 10kg more in your legs than me so id say ud be fine at 94kg

Good to hear that. I have good upper body strength which should come in handy. I'm going to upload some mock-up images later on today hopefully, and get some opinions on my proposed lengthening amount.

Thanks.

[endomorphisme]

does dr mitkovic treats you as equal as you're taller than most patients ?
i'm 182.5 cm, so i feel very concerned by that, i'm not considering mitkovic but i just would like to know how doctors treats patients who are 180 cm+
I guess i would have no problem with paley or guichet but i'm not considering then btw, i'am looking at russian doctors

[Descreteuser]

na it didnt bother him at all. just told him a good reason why i wanted to do it

[microman]

can you give us some knowledge on how exactly you shower yourself, and how often it is required.

and how many clothes should i bring, for example;

5x pair of socks
5x pair of boxers
2x track pants? (i take it you only use this when going outside to avoid infections?)
5x shorts (i assume you wear shorts all the time while inside so device can be seen)

how do you wash your clothes, do you hand it to someone.

also what is your typical stance througout the day, can you spend most of the day sitting on a chair with a laptop on your desk, or must you be in bed? and if so is there some bed desk you can have so your laptop can sit on it nicely.

do you pay for the operation in dinars, and if so how much is it exactly.

I have also been looking at other diaries on anold forum, is much of what is said there applies here, for example is it the same 'military hosppital', they also mention something about a guesthouse, and they had a ball for exercise and some machine to give your legs some muscle, check George61's diary for more information, seems that is not available anymore?

I read on another diary that you must ensure that the hospital has applied on your behalf for a 'temporary resident' visa within 3 days of your arrival, I don't know if you did that, but I thought i should mention as you may get a fine or be held up and the airport upon leaving.

[Descreteuser]

can you give us some knowledge on how exactly you shower yourself, and how often it is required.

and how many clothes should i bring, for example;

5x pair of socks
5x pair of boxers
2x track pants? (i take it you only use this when going outside to avoid infections?)
5x shorts (i assume you wear shorts all the time while inside so device can be seen)

how do you wash your clothes, do you hand it to someone.

also what is your typical stance througout the day, can you spend most of the day sitting on a chair with a laptop on your desk, or must you be in bed? and if so is there some bed desk you can have so your laptop can sit on it nicely.

do you pay for the operation in dinars, and if so how much is it exactly.

I have also been looking at other diaries on anold forum, is much of what is said there applies here, for example is it the same 'military hosppital', they also mention something about a guesthouse, and they had a ball for exercise and some machine to give your legs some muscle, check George61's diary for more information, seems that is not available anymore?

I read on another diary that you must ensure that the hospital has applied on your behalf for a 'temporary resident' visa within 3 days of your arrival, I don't know if you did that, but I thought i should mention as you may get a fine or be held up and the airport upon leaving.

yeah clothes what u mentioned is fine.. hotel staff can get ur clothes cleane for u downstairs. sitting up or lying downs fine.. theres desks in the rooms.. operation is payed genrally by card in dinards translated from 9300 euros. theresamilitary hospital but thats just for getting xrays.. but dont get there for x raysas theres a better place.. dunno bout the guest house.. visa wise u only have to go to the border every 3 months to get ur pssport stamped

[microman]

oh right so it's translated from 9,300.00 euros into say 1,120,585 dinars, which i then would pay in pounds sinc it's a UK bank card, which would cost £6,732.

so strange for it to be like that but okay.

yeah okay i should be able to fit all that in my rucksack, I plan to not have any baggage with me so it doens't get put on the plane, i prefer a single bag as hand luggage as that goes in overhead compartments

track pants are made with different material, so i want to check this is an okay one as i don't want to cause infection, can you confirm this is an okay trackpant

http://www.sportsdirect.com/adidas-samson-woven-tracksuit-bottoms-mens-493079

I think you said it was not needed, but i think i will go to the tailer and get him to add a full side zip to the track pants,or add the ability to remove the bottom of the trousers via a zip, kinda like a zip in the kneebone area, this will make it easier to take off with the device on,

also when do you use track pants, was I right in saying it is when you are outside, and inside it's shorts only, I only ask because i need to know if i can get away with just one track pants, which i think i can.