He is rich though so he might as well do the tibia surgery. I know I'd go for 10 cm in two operations if I was rich too.
Money isn't an issue. It's the time wasted that I don't like. You can always make your money back, but you don't ever get your time back. I personally would rather spend the time traveling the world (I'll explain more below).
Hey DIFM.
I am really happy with your update and how you really have "won".
I think that you should be honest with the positives that came from this surgery as well as with the negatives... I know that you want to emphasize the positives (more attention from women, more self esteem etc...) much less because you dont want to push anyone to do this surgery, but I truly believe that both negatives and positives should be stated to give a real picture of post-op life.
Your last comments show a completely different picture than what you wrote when you first updated yesterday. The update almost seemed like your life only got worse while the last comments show the complete opposite.
So again, in order to give a real picture, you should be honest about both negative (pain, proportions etc...) and postives (women, self image etc) in order to give a complete picture of how it really is afterwards.. In the end, one who reads your diary should be able to determine if the positives outweight the negatives or vice-versa.
Thanks for the update and I wish you a wonderful life
I reread my update from yesterday, and I can see where the misunderstanding is.
I was saying that I could have been all pathetic and dwell on the fact that the surgery caused me to lose my long-term gf. And I could have regretted the surgery. But I didn't, because I've moved on from this surgery and am not self-conscious about my looks anymore. My point wasn't that my life sucked after the surgery. My point was that I could keep looking for flaws with the way I look (weird gait/disproportion) and keep getting more surgery (getting to 5'11" with tibia surgery), or I can just stop all the crap and start enjoying my life. And I chose to do the latter, which is why I've been MIA from these forums for a long time. I realized that I don't have to wait to become perfect to start being happy.
To have an understanding as to why I feel that way, here's the honest truth about my dating life and life in general (pre-millionaire and pre-surgery and post- surgery). I didn't want to write about my personal life in such a public setting, but I think this is the only way to understand what LL will do for you:
As a teenaged 5'5" Asian dude:I've been single for most of my teen years. Looking back at my high school pics, I could see why. I didn't dress well - my mom bought my clothes for me. I had bad haircuts. I was constantly depressed for this, because everyone else was dating someone and I was alone. I did become best friends with this cute girl, but she friend-zoned me for years. And then she ended up with a 5'10" guy. This was the first time I think I was rejected for being short. Her friends would laugh at me for being short. They said that I looked like a "little brother". This was when I first learned that girls liked taller guys. And it sucked because it wasn't something I had control over nor something I could change through exercise or something. It wasn't fair at all. I felt like even more crap when taller guys would make fun of my appearance. They said I had a big head but a small body and looked odd. One of my guy friends told me that it's a shame that I wasn't taller because I had a lot going for me except that I wasn't tall. I was really good at basketball but I would always get picked last anyway because of my height. All this superficial high school crap really drilled into me, and planted the seed for my eventual LL surgery. And I think this is where a lot of you can relate.
As a early-20s 5'6" Asian better-dressed dude:After that pathetic teenage dating life, I wised up and started dressing better. I researched on men's fashion and asked girls for advice for dressing me up. I started reading books on how to attract girls. The number of girls interested in me shot up after that. It went from zero to maybe half a dozen. It's quite interesting how just getting better haircuts, wearing fitted clothes, and wearing contacts would do for your dating life. I was still the same guy underneath. I just looked different. This is where I realized that looks matter, despite all that crap that people say about how personality is what's important. Personality doesn't matter if girls reject you at first sight.
This was before online-dating was popular, so I only met girls through friends or school. There was this 5'5" asian girl who was really hot. She said that I was "a pretty boy"; I luckily don't have an ugly face. We studied together, gave her shoulder massages and I fell for her hard. I gave hints that I liked her, but she didn't respond well to them. A few months later, she started dating a 6' tall Asian dude. The guy was exactly like me in terms of looks and wealth and just about anything else. So I had a feeling that it was because I was short.
Fast forward a few months later, and I'm dating a rich girl. She wasn't as hot as the previous girl, but there was something nice about dating a rich girl. She brought me to different cities and paid for my plane tickets and hotel. We tried out fancy restaurants and ate really yummy foods. And I really enjoyed spending time with her.
After her were a string of long-term gfs with really no gap in between. There was always another girl who was interested in me waiting to date me.
This is why I don't recommend this surgery if you're just doing it to get girls. Even though I was short (under 5'6"), I still got girls. It's true that each one was 5'5" or under. But there was always a girl who was interested in me. One of them was really pretty, too. All were Asians. No non-asians wanted to date me. Everyone of them who were interested in me were shorter than me. The only time I didn't have a girlfriend for a while was the year I spent chasing that 5'5" hot girl who ended up with the tall guy. That was a massive waste of my time. I told myself, "Don't ever just chase one girl and put her on a pedestal." This mentality eventually screwed me over later on as you'll read.
As a mid-20s 5'6" millionaire:There is where things got interesting. Once you're a millionaire, the dating landscape changes by a lot. There's a reason why they say girls like dating rich guys. It's very very true. And the reason why I mentioned my rich girlfriend a few paragraphs back was because I've been on the other side of that type of relationship before. And it's really nice to not have to worry about money and be able to enjoy things that I otherwise couldn't afford to do. So I can see the appeal of wanting to date a rich guy.
This was when a lot of girls were interested in me and I had one-night-stands with cute girls. One time I even had 3 girls fighting to date to me at the same. I ended up sleeping with all three of them. If you really really want girls to like you, become rich. Some of the girls who rejected me before started talking to me after I became rich. I'm out of their league now, so I rejected them. I was no longer the beggar. I was now the chooser.
After having my "fun", I settled down with this awesome girl who became my last long-term girlfriend and also the longest. I took her around the world and showed her a great lifestyle. We were both deeply in love with each other. I think this was the first time I've ever fell in love. Throughout the relationship, hot girls would hang out with me and want to date me. "How?" you might ask. Here's where I was being an a$$hole: I kept a dating profile open, because I was curious if there was a better girl out there. But as I was hanging out with them, I still really wanted to be with my gf instead. Eventually I stopped using the dating profile and focused on my gf. My gf wasn't the prettiest girl I know, but she was very compatible with me. She was someone I could picture seeing myself with for the rest of my life. And during that time, I was truly happy. I had everything going for me. Life was good. And then that's when I found out about LL. And if you read my previous few updates, you'll understand why I did it. I did it because I wasn't happy with my looks. I remembered all those girls who I liked who rejected me for a taller guy. I no longer wanted that feeling again. When I looked in the mirror, I saw this short guy staring back at me. It was strange because in my mind, I'm like this 5'10" super hero playboy. But my body didn't match what my confidence was telling me I looked like. So I thought, what the heck. I have the time and money. Let's just get this last "flaw" out of my life. I did it for me - hence the username.
So I never did LL to get girls. I always got girls. It's true that not all of them were 10s. But looks didn't matter much to me, as long as the girl is a cool chick and we enjoy doing the same things together. You can find love as a short guy. You just gotta dress well, and umm... be rich.
Also read a lot of relationship/dating books to figure out why girls don't like you. This helps. Most likely you just need to work out, eat well (low carbs), dress better, have awesome lifestyle pics, and treat girls like you would treat a bro instead of like putting them on a pedestal or treating them like trash. I don't believe in playing mind games with girls to get them to sleep with you. Maybe that's good for you in the short-term, but if you really want a girl to date you for a long time and be happy with dating you, communicate with her and don't play mind games.
The LL surgery:So this is where things screwed up. My gf stayed with me during the lengthening period. While using my computer in the hotel we stayed at, she found that I had a dating profile open while I was dating her. This is where being an ahole came back to bite me in the ass. So while I never cheated on her physically, she felt cheated that I hung out with these other girls. In reality, I only hung out with two girls from the dating website for one date early in my relationship with her. And I never saw anyone else again from that dating website. But the problem was that I kept that dating profile open. I checked on it occasionally to see if any girls liked me, which was a pathetic ego thing that probably stemmed from when I used to get rejected all the time. And there were a few hundred girls who liked my profile. Most of them I didn't want to date. After a while I didn't even check on it. But she did. And she left me.
It was ironic, because I had commitment issues for many years. "Don't ever just chase one girl and put her on a pedestal." was my motto, remember? I was always curious if there were better options out there for me. And for the first time, I finally committed to a girl and decided to remain loyal to her. And she breaks up with me, because of something I did when I wasn't as committed in the past. I deserved it though. I spoke with her a few months ago after not seeing her for a while. And she told me why she broke up with me after I had asked. One of the major reasons was the dating profile, and another was because I was taller. I thought all girls liked taller guys. But apparently not her. She's now dating a guy shorter than me. I moved on after I found out that she was dating someone else. That's when I was ready to get back into the dating scene again. Which brings us to now...
As a 5'9" millionaire:Right now is probably the pinnacle of my dating life. If you think about it, I'm quite the catch. Average height, millionaire, young, awesome lifestyle, generous, lots of free time, etc. I get like 5 or so messages a day from girls on dating apps when I don't do anything. But when I post things or update my dating profile, it goes to 10+ messages a day. A lot of the messages are asking me how I'm still single. This is probably the most interest girls have ever had with me. I also have a dating profile where I don't mention my wealth. So in that profile, I'm a 5'9" asian dude with a bunch of awesome lifestyle pics, but no mention that I'm rich. I only get like 2 messages a week in that profile. I created that profile because I didn't want girls to date me simply because I was rich. It would be amazing if some girl dated me and had no idea that I was rich. But in the real world, being rich helps a lot. If you're not rich, then being very good looking helps a lot. Problem is that I'm not like super good-looking. I'm also asian, and asian dudes don't do well on dating sites because there aren't many girls who want to date asian guys.
In other words, if I was simply taller, and not rich, my dating life wouldn't have been affected much. Sometimes people think that being taller would make girls swarm you, but it doesn't. Being rich does. In the online world, what attracts girls initially is good facial structure, wealth, and lifestyle. Then to get a girl on a date, you need a well-written profile and good communication skills - making her laugh helps. And after you attracted her and got a date, what makes a girl reject you is height, low self-esteem, lack of humor and bad personality.
And this is why I suggest guys who plan on doing this surgery to get dates to lie on their dating profile and change their height to 3 inches taller. You might be surprised to see that it makes almost no difference to how many girls are attracted to you or message you.
So fast-forward to today. I've been chatting and setting up dates with several really hot girls. And this is probably the first time I've been able to chat with 10s and they message me back quite consistently. Honestly, I'm quite surprised by how responsive the hot girls are to me now. When before, I rarely get messaged back from them. Most of them aren't even asian, so my race stopped being as much of an issue in the online dating world - though I still find the occasional girl who straight-up says that she only dates white guys. My height also stopped being a hindrance. I'd say maybe half the girls I've chatted with were taller than 5'5". So, this probably dropped the number of girls who reject me right away by a half. But if I were still 5'6", even just getting 2 message a day instead of 5 messages a day isn't so bad.
But dating isn't always about quantity, since you can only date marry one girl at a time anyway. In terms of quality, I have to admit that being the complete package made the hotness of girls I attract much higher. Unless you look like a model, I highly doubt that average guys attract the hotness of girls I'm attracting even if they were 6' tall. I know this because I changed that profile where I didn't mention my wealth to say that I'm 6' tall, and the number/hotness of girls who messaged me back didn't go up. Which is why I cringed a bit when someone mentioned that 5'10" guys on tinder are getting one-night-stands and blah blah blah. I mean, go ahead and experiment it for yourself. I think some short guys have this fantasy of sleeping with a lot of girls after being taller. I hate to say it, but I think the real reason why I'm attracting so many girls is because I'm rich af.
Sorry, but your height isn't going to help you that much more unless you're already attracting girls before. Having said that, the last 5 girls I've been on dates with were 5'6", 5'7", 5'3", 5'7", and 5'9". And I have upcoming dates in the next few weeks or so with a 5'5", 5'7", same 5'9" girl, and unknown height girl. And it's not because only 4 girls want to date me. It's because I don't have the time to date all the other ones who have been messaging me. So the surgery did help widen the dating field a bit. If I was in my old height, my guess is that only half of them would have agreed to go on a date with me.
The irony now is that the girl who I'm most looking forward to dating is the unknown height girl who had been quietly liking my fb/insta pics for the past 3 years, including when I wasn't tall. She's the hottest girl I've ever spoken to and got a date with. In other words, I didn't need this surgery at all. She doesn't know my height, but she looks shorter than my previous height. That's what prompted me to write my update after my long hiatus from this forum. I was able to attract one of the hottest girls I've ever seen in my life without the height. The date might not go well and she might not end up being my wife or gf, but it doesn't matter to me. My lifestyle attracted her, and that must mean that I'm living a pretty good life. And that's why I'm happy and pretty content with myself.
And now you know why I don't recommend this surgery. I recommend becoming rich instead. And if being rich means not wasting $100,000 on a surgery, then don't do the surgery. But it's also why I don't regret this surgery. It helped me a bit, and I didn't lose much time/money relative to what I have.
In terms of lack of respect for being short and all that crap. That stuff was all in high school/college. Maybe it's in the corporate world too but I don't work in the corporate world. For the past few years, my success outshone the fact that I was short. That's why you'll notice that a lot of people considering LL are usually younger people. As you get older, your height doesn't matter as much anymore. The only thing left remaining was the inner demon that spawned from years of rejection from girls for being short. I know that some of you have that metaphorical demon, too. That's why I hope you guys can successfully fight that demon off. It took me getting this surgery for me to fight it off. I hope you don't have to go through what I had to endure to do the same.