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[NewHeights]

Hello All,

Many members seem to be very concerned about the short  term and long term risks of CLL.

In my mind, the risks "should" increase exponentially depending on amount lengthened. In the short term, you are asking your body to go through much worse hell for 9 CM than 5 CM, and in the long term, I see more lengthening equating to worse biomechanics and greater risk for life long chronic pain than less lengthening.


Is there a range which is considered VERY SAFE (like less than 4.5 CM), a moderate risk range, and a high risk range? Is it possible to quantify the risk based on amount lengthened?

I don't think the general risks of CLL should be viewed in isolation, because obviously the amount lengthened is a huge factor.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

I don't know if it's even that easy, despite how intuitive it sounds.  I had a really rough beginning and started actually feeling better after passing the 5cm mark, where some people say is when you need to stop.

[NewHeights]

I don't know if it's even that easy, despite how intuitive it sounds.  I had a really rough beginning and started actually feeling better after passing the 5cm mark, where some people say is when you need to stop.

Isn't it expected to be rough during the lengthening process though? I'm talking more about the long term risk. I would assume 5 CM is safer long term than 9 CM+

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Isn't it expected to be rough during the lengthening process though? I'm talking more about the long term risk. I would assume 5 CM is safer long term than 9 CM+

I assume you mean arthritis.  Nothing feels awkward when I move the joints, like it would eventually cause an issue.  I don't think it'll be a problem, at least not with tibiae where the mechanical axis isn't changed.

[Alittletooshort]

I assume you mean arthritis.  Nothing feels awkward when I move the joints, like it would eventually cause an issue.  I don't think it'll be a problem, at least not with tibiae where the mechanical axis isn't changed.

Hey MDOW,
Do you think there is a possibility to get back some of the endurance you've lost during the lengthening process? When thinking back would you have done LON again, or would you go for the external method?

[Uppland]

User spiderman, for all his faults, said something i think makes a lot of sense. The doctor he spoke to believed too strong painkillers masked the irreversible tissue damage and that's not good beause the lengthening need to stop when these symptoms show up.

So I guess the safe amount is the length you can gain before  permanent damage occur.

[ReadRothbard]

Dr. Paley once wrote that under 5 cm is low risk, 5-8 cm is medium risk, and over 8 cm is high risk.

[NewHeights]

Dr. Paley once wrote that under 5 cm is low risk, 5-8 cm is medium risk, and over 8 cm is high risk.

Ok, that's about what I figured. It is good to get ranges like this, but I just wish the risk assessment was a bit more specific. for example, "less than 5 CM has a 97% chance of full recovery with few long term complications"

I'm just throwing out arbitrary numbers, but I wish the doctors can be more specific regarding the chances of having complications.

[Medium Drink Of Water]

Hey MDOW,
Do you think there is a possibility to get back some of the endurance you've lost during the lengthening process? When thinking back would you have done LON again, or would you go for the external method?

I think the endurance I've lost is permanent.  When I move, more is being asked of the leg muscles than before.  Especially the tibialis anterior.  And I do think that lengthening less would've resulted in less loss of endurance.

If I had it to do over again I'd go external only, no LON.  The operation left scar tissue on my patellar tendon that causes discomfort sometimes, at least that's the best diagnosis an orthopedic surgeon could come up with for my knee discomfort.

[DoctorGirl]

I think the endurance I've lost is permanent.  When I move, more is being asked of the leg muscles than before.  Especially the tibialis anterior.  And I do think that lengthening less would've resulted in less loss of endurance.

If I had it to do over again I'd go external only, no LON.  The operation left scar tissue on my patellar tendon that causes discomfort sometimes, at least that's the best diagnosis an orthopedic surgeon could come up with for my knee discomfort.

Scar tissue remodels over time. Have you tried Ultrasound therapy?