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[theuprising]

Assuming you have a 0.8 ratio between tibia and femur which bones is it better to lengthen?

What do you believe looks better? Longer femurs or longer tibias?

[ForcedPuberty]

I don't believe any look better. I believe you should always get 2 surgeries.

[Taller]

What about those who are 175+ CM to start? Only surgery usually gets them to their dream heights and two are not necessary, or even helpful in these cases.

[Time4LL]

I have personally met people with Femur surgeries and you cannot tell at all that they had surgeries. There ratios look perfectly normal.

I personally have had surgery on my tibia and you cannot tell until I sit down and my tibia are much taller compared to everyone else.

All that is of course if you lengthened a reasonable amount. (i.e. less than 7 cm)

[ForcedPuberty]

What about those who are 175+ CM to start? Only surgery usually gets them to their dream heights and two are not necessary, or even helpful in these cases

lol people who are already average. why are they even getting LL. they have a mental disorder where they need to feel superior in the face of no discrimination. its all in their heads.


but I still maintain that people should get both sections done. I guess my advice actually specifically applies to people who actually face discrimination.

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in terms of aesthetics 1 bone is always going to look longer than the other. its something you will understand when you do your first lengthening. you can hide it with clothes, but your beach body is going to look "normal" but with 1 segment long. and that long segment will be the segment you lengthen.

make no mistake pictures and being nude in person are different.

its your body after all, (its true, no one will care, or even know) however why would you want to cheap out on it. (why would you want to cheap out on your body.)

[YellowSpike]

I have personally met people with Femur surgeries and you cannot tell at all that they had surgeries. There ratios look perfectly normal.

I personally have had surgery on my tibia and you cannot tell until I sit down and my tibia are much taller compared to everyone else.

All that is of course if you lengthened a reasonable amount. (i.e. less than 7 cm)

This.

[Time4LL]

@ForcedPuberty I understand what you are saying I just think with LL and anything in life you are going to have tradeoffs.
One of the tradeoffs with LL is not having ideal proportions.

 I don't have the time or money to do this surgery twice but I wouldn't call myself cheap. It is more about time for me. Its just I am not willing to trade another portion of my life for what it takes to save the money and do this surgery and recover. To each their own and I totally understand where you are coming from if you want to have ideal proportions.

[ForcedPuberty]

let me re iterate.

the golden proportions are always going to be the most attractive.

the question is really asking this..... if I want to cheap out on my 1 and only body and make my proportions less attractive and more unappealing because I don't want to spend the time, money, pain, then which section being changed from the ideal sexy ratio will look the least ugly.

that is what I read.

you only get 1 body, we already know what is the most sexy ratio, I just don't agree with cheaping out on it. I don't agree with people being lazy. if your going to do something you have to do it right, and the more important something is the more important it is to do it right. and nothing is more important than your body.

look I understand that some people just don't want to do 2 surgeries, that is fine, those people have made the decision that they don't have the determination to do 2 surgeries. im not even saying you need the determination to do 2 surgeries, but that is what it is. its a lack of determination to get the money, spend the time and endure more pain. my mentality is that my body is more important to me, so im not going to do things to it half heartedly. if im going to do something to my body, im going to treat it with the respect to do it properly to the best of my ability.

people who weight up the cost benefit scenario of whether its worth doing a second surgery are not approaching this scenario from what is right for the body, they are looking at this scenario in the light of now that I have what I want most(height benefits) is it worth doing it properly.

basically some people don't care about doing it properly/correctly, as long as they already have the benefits of height.

keeping your body close to the sexy ratio(golden ratio), the ratio that all forms of life on every microcosm adhere to is the proper and correct way.

even though this is a lot of typing its not as big a deal as it seems like im making, if you only want 1 surgery that is fine.

I believe in doing it correctly because I act and do things on principal. my body is respected and so why would I cheap out on it and only do half a job, if I was making a wooden chair or table I might just make a table that will do the job even if its a dodgy table, but for my body I cant just do that. I need the job done properly, the effort I put into my body matches the respect and importance I give to it, after all its not just a wooden table.

[ForcedPuberty]

@ForcedPuberty I understand what you are saying I just think with LL and anything in life you are going to have tradeoffs.
One of the tradeoffs with LL is not having ideal proportions.

 I don't have the time or money to do this surgery twice but I wouldn't call myself cheap. It is more about time for me. Its just I am not willing to trade another portion of my life for what it takes to save the money and do this surgery and recover. To each their own and I totally understand where you are coming from if you want to have ideal proportions.

I typed that other post before reading this.

don't worry I understand your reasoning, im not saying it is right or wrong. im just stating how people think weather they realize it or not.

[BelowTheMean]

I'm still with the 99% of people aren't going to notice your proportions, and how often do you go out nked? At least over here half the year is winter. The advantage from increasing your height already outweighs losing athleticism, you think proportions are more important than athleticism? Give me a break.

[ForcedPuberty]

I'm still with the 99% of people aren't going to notice your proportions, and how often do you go out nked?

your correct, no one is going to notice, the reason to do something properly lies in principal of doing it correctly, not because of what others think. also, if you split the height between 2 segments your not going to loose any athleticism.

[ItsMyLife]

whether vs weather
principal vs principle
pariah vs parihar

just wondering if u know these.

anyway, back to topic. why I chose one segment is time, as an athlete...... Im already 25, ive not much time left. once I am done and back to sports I will be 27. with some injections and medical devices, probably 26+, due to fasteer bone healing. add another 6 months to train back to pre-op abilities..... I will probably be 27+.

if I do another operation after this operation, the whole journey might be done when I am like what 28?

I just don't wanna waste any more time or money. I look young yes but I have pushed the limits. I spent so much money over the years and I don't really have much money left to spare.

for me proportions is a tradeoff I am willing to take. I didn't even care about proportions. I just talked about proportion here because Im too free...

even so, nobody knows whats the golden ratio for the body. 1.68 hardly features anywhere. 0.8 as tibia-femur ratio is only the average, not necessarily the ideal. which is probably why women wear high heels as longer tibia are a sign of beauty.

in plastic surgery I used to believe in 1.68. there is even a phi mask. I fit into it, but I don't consider myself the epitome of attractiveness. also, some celebrities don't fit into it and they are hot and popular.

even if your tibias are long it might still look ok or even good. whos to say that 0.8 is the best ratio. yes, evolution, but is that to say that the average IQ (100) is the best?

[ForcedPuberty]

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[Time4LL]

@ForcedPuberty
Make no mistake everything we do is looked at from a cost benefit analysis. Its just you feel the benefit outweighs the cost of two surgeries and I don't.

 I understand what you are saying. Its just a difference in opinion. I hope both of us get what we are searching for. I think it is good for people to see things from different perspectives and I see yours.

I will say though I think long tibias looks aesthetically pleasing to me which was the reason that I chose to do tibias. So it really is just a matter of preference in every aspect of it.

[ItsMyLife]

@ForcedPuberty
Make no mistake everything we do is looked at from a cost benefit analysis. Its just you feel the benefit outweighs the cost of two surgeries and I don't.

 I understand what you are saying. Its just a difference in opinion. I hope both of us get what we are searching for. I think it is good for people to see things from different perspectives and I see yours.

I will say though I think long tibias looks aesthetically pleasing to me which was the reason that I chose to do tibias. So it really is just a matter of preference in every aspect of it.

yup its a balancing exercise. each of us are obliged to weigh pro vs cons and come up to our own autochthonous solution... theres no right and no wrong.. this is no dictatorship.

and I believe in party autonomy

[theuprising]

To FP I agree that 2 sections are ideal but as most will only do 1 segment I wanted to see what responses were.

It does seem to have changed as in old forum there was a similar topic which most responses stated longer tibias looked better with pics of guys with too long femurs whereas on this forum it is now leaning more towards femurs so it's interesting how there has been a shift.