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[ForcedPuberty]

How rare is it for people to get both tibia and femurs operated on.

how rare is it to get 2 LL surgeries.

how many diaries do we have in total, and how many diaries do we have people getting 2 LL surgeries in.

what percentage of people actually ever get 2 surgeries.

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I know its rare, most people always go on about how they are going to go for the max on each segment, stating grandiose dreams, but when it comes to crunch time everyone pussies out, or decides they just don't want it.

can people please just make a short list or post on people who have done both sections.

it is incredibly hard for people to even manage 1 surgery, and exponentially more difficult for people to ever get around to doing 2.

people who just state they "definitely" want 3 are crazy. lol specifically the people who have not even done a single surgery yet.

[ForcedPuberty]

2 LL operations
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It seems like less than 1% of people ever get 2 surgeries.
yet 90+% of people scream that they definitely will get 2.

[TRS]

Add to the list:
-Crazy+6
-Junkim021789
-Sweatpants
-David

I believe that majority of the people will change their mind after the first operation and call it a quit once they recover, which is actually a very good decision

[sadboy]

Thank you so much for asking this question. I was craving to ask this for ages but was never bothered. I am planning on doing 2 LL surgeries and I am very serious. I'm not the type of guy who is scared of surgeries and I also take a lot of risks in my life. After all, I believe I have nothing better to do with my life, yes, I'm sad hence the name...

At the end of the day though, I should better do the first one first. I will not be quick to judge.

[YellowSpike]

I'd be curious to know how many guys do 2 surgeries starting after the age of, say, 30. I'm already in my very early 30s, and I just don't see myself spending more money and time on a second surgery (I also want to buy a house and do other things in life). And I feel like after another 4-5cm max on tibias, my proportions would be thrown off (though I do have long arms and a semi big head, so maybe I'd get away with it).

If you're young and have the money and time (and proportions allow for it), then it would be fine.

[YellowSpike]

I was thinking about getting both tibias and femurs operated on, because that way I could be statuesque, like a Victoria's Secret Angel. I think that in terms of proportions I would get away with it, because long-legged girls are beautiful, but the surgery is so drastic, so time-consuming, and so expensive that I was not sure about it, and my doctor discouraged me. He says that 5,7 is the perfect height for a girl, and perhaps it's true that in real life a girl who is 5'10 or 5'11 is too tall. Sometimes these pretty catwalk girls (some of them, like VS's angels, are undoubtedly pretty) look great on film, but in real life look like stick insects that could easily break if handled, and that's not nice.

As a woman, you don't need to be any taller. I honestly think that 5'3-5'7 is the perfect range for girls. But only you can decide what you want

[joax]

Women don't need this surgery, ever. There's no benefit to tall women, like there is to tall men.

[programdude]

I met three people during my stay in Florida who had done two surgeries

[goodlucktomylegs]

I met three people during my stay in Florida who had done two surgeries

And how about their recovery?
I'm so curious
I have changed my mind to do 6 cm femur and 4.5 cm tibia

[KrP1]

Women don't need this surgery, ever. There's no benefit to tall women, like there is to tall men.

i dont think so, there is a benefit when the woman is a lot shorter than average.

[YellowSpike]

i dont think so, there is a benefit when the woman is a lot shorter than average.

Yeah but short women aren't nearly as discriminated against as short men are. Short women often get brownie points for being short because lots of guys (short and tall) like petite women. Maybe in certain careers (modeling, business) being a short woman can be a hindrance (but again, not nearly as bad as being a short man).

[KrP1]

Yeah but short women aren't nearly as discriminated against as short men are. Short women often get brownie points for being short because lots of guys (short and tall) like petite women. Maybe in certain careers (modeling, business) being a short woman can be a hindrance (but again, not nearly as bad as being a short man).

yeah thats true, there is a lot more discrimination against short men , but some womans could have benefits from LL , like those who are shorter than 150cm

[ItsMyLife]

My dr offered me femur 4 cm but he advises me not to. Trauma and sporting abilities.

[ForcedPuberty]

My dr offered me femur 4 cm but he advises me not to. Trauma and sporting abilities.

what reason did your doctor state. how are your tibias any different to your femurs.

[BelowTheMean]

My arms are not long enough to support a second surgery, and even if they were I don't want to go too crazy. I can deny to people who knew me that I grew 2-3 inches, but definitely not 4-5 inches!

[YellowSpike]

My arms are not long enough to support a second surgery, and even if they were I don't want to go too crazy. I can deny to people who knew me that I grew 2-3 inches, but definitely not 4-5 inches!

What is your starting height?

I think if I did a second surgery (which I think is crazy in and of itself), I'd be out of proportion. Or, I'd have to limit myself to like 4-5cm max...and I'm not sure it would be worth it. Tibias are more complex too.

[heightangel]

Yeah but short women aren't nearly as discriminated against as short men are. Short women often get brownie points for being short because lots of guys (short and tall) like petite women. Maybe in certain careers (modeling, business) being a short woman can be a hindrance (but again, not nearly as bad as being a short man).

I love petite women. I think they shouldn't get LL, unless they're midgets.

[BelowTheMean]

What is your starting height?

I think if I did a second surgery (which I think is crazy in and of itself), I'd be out of proportion. Or, I'd have to limit myself to like 4-5cm max...and I'm not sure it would be worth it. Tibias are more complex too.

I'm 5'7" in both wingspan and height. I live in the US and think 2-3" on femurs would be a sufficient boost, bringing me from 10th %ile to 40th or 50th.

[sadboy]

My arms are not long enough to support a second surgery, and even if they were I don't want to go too crazy. I can deny to people who knew me that I grew 2-3 inches, but definitely not 4-5 inches!

You can deny to people who knew you that you grew? Who cares what people think. Do what you will do as long as YOU are happy. How old are you anyway?

[Wazzup]

To be honest I've been debating about the pros and cons of doing 2 cirurgies:

1 option -> 6cm femurs
        better armspan to height ratio
        better sitting height to height ratio
        less expensive, less recovery time, less risk

2 option -> 4cm femurs +3,5cm tibias
        better femur to tibia ratio
        taller
        more expensive, more recovery time, more risk

What about the long term? For all of you that lenghten femurs can you tell me if 6cm is ok or I will be ruining my tibia to femur ratio. Will walking flow normally 3 years after leg lenghtening only this?

Thank you all

[Moose]

Im curious would 2 surgerys be bad if you really lowered the lengthen? like 3.6cm for tibias and 4.6cm for femurs. 8.2cm total.

[YellowSpike]

To be honest I've been debating about the pros and cons of doing 2 cirurgies:

1 option -> 6cm femurs
        better armspan to height ratio
        better sitting height to height ratio
        less expensive, less recovery time, less risk

2 option -> 4cm femurs +3,5cm tibias
        better femur to tibia ratio
        taller
        more expensive, more recovery time, more risk

What about the long term? For all of you that lenghten femurs can you tell me if 6cm is ok or I will be ruining my tibia to femur ratio. Will walking flow normally 3 years after leg lenghtening only this?

Thank you all

Depending on your proportions, it may be best to just do it all in one femur surgery. Because then you're saving yourself a lot of time, money and pain. Plus, longer femurs are typical for many men, and you can create the illusion of shorter femurs by bulking up.

[Wazzup]

I'm also 5'5 (166cm in the morning and 165 at night). How does it feel to be 5'7 1/2 more a less Proportions are important but, meh... I think we will end up adapting to the new tibia to femur ratio and end up walking as normal as we walk now.

My nº1 concern is walking not FLOWING 100% normal in this new situation, have u been in contact with someone that did 6-7 femur +/-5 years ago, are they able to forget that they even did leg lenghtening? And if so when does that happen?

PS: If you lenghten only femurs you have the ability to use timberland boots or something like that to improve the tibia to femur ratio, if you lenghten only tibias it would be even worse. But "normal" people don't pay attention to this, at elast I never did until I discover this forum 1,5 years ago.

I've watched some videos from the Chinese clinic and even knowing my winspan is 173 and sitting height is 88(I've no butt doe) going beyonde 8cm is just NONONO!! If I lenghten 6cm femur the true gain will be more a less 5-5,5cm isn't it?

[YellowSpike]

My starting height was 166cm at night, and I'm I think around 173 at night now (maybe 172.9? I dunno). My dad measured me a few times, and I came in at just over 5'8" each time, in the evening still with pretty bad duckass.

From what I know, if you lengthen the femurs 7cm or less, you'll usually recover fully, though it will take time. I'm nowhere near there yet, of course, and still on crutches.

As far as the true gain, it depends on the method you use. If you do an external method (I'm not sure if it's LATN or LON), you lose a good amount because of pin loss. With internals (especially weight bearing), there's less right of losing any of what you gain. I know someone that did internal femurs, and he claims he gained it all in his stature (the angle of his femurs didn't throw it off or anything).

[BelowTheMean]

You can deny to people who knew you that you grew? Who cares what people think. Do what you will do as long as YOU are happy. How old are you anyway?

Yes, what I mean is that it's much easier to convince someone else that they're just imagining things if you only did 2-3 in as opposed to 4-5...

Yes I obviously care what others think about me, why else would I go through all the effort for 2-3 inches?

I'm 27 and I have the money to do the surgery in the US. Just haven't figured out a strategy/excuse for work.

[Wazzup]

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[Medium Drink Of Water]

My nº1 concern is walking not FLOWING 100% normal in this new situation, have u been in contact with someone that did 6-7 femur +/-5 years ago, are they able to forget that they even did leg lenghtening? And if so when does that happen?

My walk flows really nicely with 7.5cm done on tibiae.  Better than it did before LL.  I'm not sure what the long term "flow" is with elongated femurs though.

[ItsMyLife]

what reason did your doctor state. how are your tibias any different to your femurs.

he rather me to do 8 cm tibia, compared to 8 cm tibia + 4 cm femurs.
and they also rather me do just 8 cm tibia instead of 5 cm tibia and 3 cm femurs.
additional trauma..

[ForcedPuberty]

additional trauma..

how does additional trauma cause any long term problems.

[goodlucktomylegs]

how does additional trauma cause any long term problems.

I think russian doctors quite specialist in tibial lengthening and they dont have too much skill on femoral surgeries like us or western docs(but dont mean they are not good bot less experlrience in femur i guess)
And
American and western docs quite lots experienced in femur than tibia

[ItsMyLife]

how does additional trauma cause any long term problems.

reaching hayflicks limit earlier than u shd... and scar tissue build-up.