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ItsMyLife

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Younger generation not getting taller
« on: March 01, 2015, 04:52:59 AM »

http://www.nature.com/pr/journal/v73/n3/full/pr2012189a.html

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In The Netherlands, people have been getting taller since 1858 (2,5). At that time, conscripts were an average of 163 cm. This indicates a height gain of 21 cm over a period of 140 y. In The Netherlands, as in most Northern European countries, the upward trend is slowing down significantly (2,6), and it even appears to be reversing in the United States (7).

The analysis sample included 5,811 boys and 6,194 girls. Height by age was the same as in 1997. Mean final height was 183.8 cm (SD = 7.1 cm) in boys and 170.7 cm (SD = 6.3 cm) in girls. The educational levels of both children and their parents are positively correlated with mean height. Since 1997, differences between geographical regions have decreased but not vanished, with the northern population being the tallest.




There are also PDF files posted by a member. Let me find them (here they are):

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf#page=15 whit use men between 20 and 39 years old
http://www.ssb.no/a/english/yearbook/tab/tab-108.html Norwegian young males
http://www.dst.dk/pukora/epub/upload/17959/pop.pdf#page=34
young danish males

Since most people are Americans here, lets see some cold hard facts:

USA white from 20-39, average height is 178.9
USA White from 40-59, average is 178.0
(This is not really statistically significant, since standard error for both is 0.3, so max standard error is 0.6)
At most, the younger generation grew taller, like  (what?) 0.9 cm. That's a lot.  :)

non Hispanic blacks:
from 20-39, average height is 178.
40-59, average height is 177.4 (standard error max of 0.6 cm so it may be stastically insignificant).

Do the same for the other two PDF files.

I repeat: the younger generation IS NOT ON AVERAGE getting taller.

I throw forth this hypothesis by my friend: The tall are getting taller, the short are getting shorter. So we feel shorter, because we kinda ignore the short people and just look at the tall ones, and thus feel all insecure over it, and have a distorted idea of what is the average height of young people vs older people (40-59)

I repeat again the younger genereation height is similar to the older generation, if we define it as 20-39 versus 40-59.
I have posited some possible explanations for this, namely that US was already more or less industrialised in the 1960s (past the WW 2), so the guys who are 50+ year old now, are as tall as younger generation
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2015, 06:50:26 PM »

Every male in my family is around 5'10", and all over 5'7". I am the only one at 5'1".
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 04:05:22 AM »

Every male in my family is around 5'10", and all over 5'7". I am the only one at 5'1".
how old are you?  Btw when you do LL let me know if your doing external tibia or something like that.
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2015, 10:51:05 PM »

Every male in my family is around 5'10", and all over 5'7". I am the only one at 5'1".

I'm praying for you, man.
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2015, 10:55:19 PM »

All the misc references on here  ("(blank) of peace" and the sad frog picture) are kinda hilarious.

LittleWhiteMan, we're all pulling for you buddy.
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2015, 12:44:12 AM »

I actually saw a 5'2 pickup artist named Cupid Shmupid on youtube the other day that made me think of him lol that guy was boss.

If I was LWM, I would lengthen to 5'7-5'8 and do a little humerus lengthening. But, seriously, I don't think he's done growing. I've got a feeling that his endocrinologist was totally full of  .

White man, what tanner stage are you at? Here is a link where you can check: http://growingupboys.info/Calculators/TannerStage.htm
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 10:03:58 AM »

I actually saw a 5'2 pickup artist named Cupid Shmupid on youtube the other day that made me think of him lol that guy was boss.

Me too, I have a lot of respect for the guy. How do you know he is 5'2?
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 08:00:40 PM »

I was almost not going to bother getting into this argument. but its just kept raging and raging for like the longest time over so many threads.

ok guys. if everyone in the world didn't eat vitamin c, and we had a sample of children(children have loading) and a sample of adults.

then the children would have a lower level of scurvy, and the adults a MUCH MUCH HIGHER level.

this is just a break down in the skin because of a deficiency. the building blocks are not getting replaced. so the tissue is going to collapse. statistically this will change the statistics for people who are young and people who are old.


however with height people are deficient in what they need to prevent their spine from collapsing partially over time, who among you drink 1 liter of milk per day every day, who among you make sure its organic so the molecular structure isn't altered so it can be more bioavailable, who among you make sure to also take all the vitamin/mineral cofactors.

and now who among you make sure to take boron so the parathyroid can actually assimilate the calcium instead of just excrete it.

the answer is none of you. its therefore not surprising that over the decades your spine will shrink. this will statistically make the younger generation look that 1cm or whatever taller. the truth is that just like you develop scurvy if you don't have vitamin c, you develop bone diseases, collapses, and weaknesses if you don't consume the nutrients it needs as building blocks.


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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 08:02:00 PM »

in short:

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I repeat: the younger generation IS NOT ON AVERAGE getting taller.

correct.
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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 08:50:29 PM »

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Re: Younger generation not getting taller
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2015, 08:48:48 PM »

Me too, I have a lot of respect for the guy. How do you know he is 5'2?

He said so in one of his Q&A videos.
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