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[ItsMyLife]

I care about what women do, not what they say. And I would bet my life on the fact they would go crazy in delight if a 183cm+ were to approach them. You realize women will blatantly lie to your face about many things?


I have facts, you have anecdotal evidence. For some reason my picture I posted isn't displaying, so let me reup it. You truly live in a fantasy world to believe that a height that is just conveniently 1 or 2 cms above your target height after tibia lengthening is too tall. It's very transparent what you are claiming and it's very dishonest as well.

That is fundamentally wrong! You have a distorted mindset. (see my thread on this)

Also, please see my thread on Hollywood heights. There must be a reason why most of them are 185 cm maximum.

And obviously you failed your comprehension tests in elementary school. I already said that 183 is too tall FOR MY COUNTRY with an average of 174-ish. So I think 185 Is too tall in America. (and maybe 189 in Scandinavia).

It goes without saying that my target height I will choose is one suited for MY COUNTRY. Ie, why would I choose 189? For someone in the Scandinavia, probably the best height to feel tall is 189.

Please screen yourself for mental illness. (I am a medical student, you have all the hallmarks)

[meursault]

That is fundamentally wrong! You have a distorted mindset. (see my thread on this)

Also, please see my thread on Hollywood heights. There must be a reason why most of them are 185 cm maximum.

And obviously you failed your comprehension tests in elementary school. I already said that 183 is too tall FOR MY COUNTRY with an average of 174-ish. So I think 185 Is too tall in America. (and maybe 189 in Scandinavia).

It goes without saying that my target height I will choose is one suited for MY COUNTRY. Ie, why would I choose 189? For someone in the Scandinavia, probably the best height to feel tall is 189.

Please screen yourself for mental illness. (I am a medical student, you have all the hallmarks)

Very strong projection here. All I do is destroy your fragile assertions that are rooted in insecurity and suddenly i'm mentally ill. I did see your thread on that, in fact I utterly debunked your assertions in that thread and revealed your true nature. You're just a male that is trying to justify leg lengthening as an average height male in your country, and at the same time assert that anyone over your new goal height is 'too tall'. Most insane thing i've ever seen here.

[ItsMyLife]

Very strong projection here. All I do is destroy your fragile assertions that are rooted in insecurity and suddenly i'm mentally ill. I did see your thread on that, in fact I utterly debunked your assertions in that thread and revealed your true nature. You're just a male that is trying to justify leg lengthening as an average height male in your country, and at the same time assert that anyone over your new goal height is 'too tall'. Most insane thing i've ever seen here.

Please look at the data and it speaks for itself:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf#page=15 whit use men between 20 and 39 years old

http://www.ssb.no/a/english/yearbook/tab/tab-108.html norwegian young males

http://www.dst.dk/pukora/epub/upload/17959/pop.pdf#page=34
young danish males

As can be seen, the average height is as I have said. You have so few posts, and yet talk too much. I have read most posts and came to a solid conclusion. 183 is too tall in Singapore, and 185-188 for the States. Probably 189 for Scandinavia.

Dude, no fragile assertions. I searched for the ideal height. And I found it. That was why I wanted to lengthen only to 182 cm, shy of 183 cm. Because, I asked girls extensively about their thoughts. I did not suggest to them that 183 is too tall. I said: if there are a few guys 170 175 178 181 183 185 190 who would you choose? Most of them chose 178 or 181. I can replicate this experiment in  a Singapore forum if you wish. I probed further: 183 is too tall? they said yeah, stands out too much, hard to kiss, a bit weird.. etc.

If you want, I can replicate this. I can put a poll on Singapore forums and lets see whats the result? I said I came to these conclusions, for a reason, unlike you who ASSUME facts without base. Baseless assertions!

[meursault]

Please look at the data and it speaks for itself:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf#page=15 whit use men between 20 and 39 years old

http://www.ssb.no/a/english/yearbook/tab/tab-108.html norwegian young males

http://www.dst.dk/pukora/epub/upload/17959/pop.pdf#page=34
young danish males

As can be seen, the average height is as I have said. You have so few posts, and yet talk too much. I have read most posts and came to a solid conclusion. 183 is too tall in Singapore, and 185-188 for the States. Probably 189 for Scandinavia.

Dude, no fragile assertions. I searched for the ideal height. And I found it. That was why I wanted to lengthen only to 182 cm, shy of 183 cm. Because, I asked girls extensively about their thoughts. I did not suggest to them that 183 is too tall. I said: if there are a few guys 170 175 178 181 183 185 190 who would you choose? Most of them chose 178 or 181. I can replicate this experiment in  a Singapore forum if you wish. I probed further: 183 is too tall? they said yeah, stands out too much, hard to kiss, a bit weird.. etc.

If you want, I can replicate this. I can put a poll on Singapore forums and lets see whats the result? I said I came to these conclusions, for a reason, unlike you who ASSUME facts without base. Baseless assertions!

Seeing you scramble to piece together your annihilated fragments is pretty hilarious. First you claim that no country has an average height of 6', and you were [rightfully] told off by me. Now you're throwing numbers at me about the height of Scandinavian military conscripts (not even the general population), when I wasn't even talking about Scandinavia; I was talking about the Netherlands. I didn't even mention the more rural areas of the dinaric alps, which have average male heights of 6'1 and over. To make it even better, these Scandinavian heights you are throwing at me are only very slightly beneath the 6 feet you claimed no country had as an average. You're humiliating yourself.

The fact of the matter is that the men at the heights you claim to be 'too tall' have no struggles in the dating market whatsoever, certainly not due to their height. You can throw anecdotes at me, and I can respond with accounts of tall men with decent faces I've known getting massive amounts of female attention (far more than those of average height) by just breathing.

Of course your female friends and family members would lie to you, maybe they even believe what they're saying. But womens' actions are different, it means nothing next to the vim and desire with which a woman looks upon a tall man. Just like a woman saying your face isn't that big of a deal or something of the sort.



Furthermore, being 'too tall' is infinitely superior to being 'too short'. 'Too short' is essentially a sexual death sentence every single time, whereas 'too tall' carries much less of a negative connotation- we're more talking preferences and nitpicking rather than visceral disgust that women have toward men beneath their height threshold. They would date a man who is 'too tall', while they would never consider a man who is 'too short'. This isn't even mentioning women who prefer that height.

Funny how the ideal height coincides perfectly with the height you can (and desire to) achieve with limb lengthening surgery. Maybe it's not ideal though, just a thought.

[ItsMyLife]

The fact of the matter is that the men at the heights you claim to be 'too tall' have no struggles in the dating market whatsoever, certainly not due to their height. You can throw anecdotes at me, and I can respond with accounts of tall men with decent faces I've known getting massive amounts of female attention (far more than those of average height) by just breathing.

Of course your female friends and family members would lie to you, maybe they even believe what they're saying. But womens' actions are different, it means nothing next to the vim and desire with which a woman looks upon a tall man. Just like a woman saying your face isn't that big of a deal or something of the sort.



Furthermore, being 'too tall' is infinitely superior to being 'too short'. 'Too short' is essentially a sexual death sentence every single time, whereas 'too tall' carries much less of a negative connotation- we're more talking preferences and nitpicking rather than visceral disgust that women have toward men beneath their height threshold. They would date a man who is 'too tall', while they would never consider a man who is 'too short'. This isn't even mentioning women who prefer that height.

Funny how the ideal height coincides perfectly with the height you can (and desire to) achieve with limb lengthening surgery. Maybe it's not ideal though, just a thought.

I did not ask my family members.  I have asked female friends and random girls on the internet. Why would they lie to me, if they do not know about my surgery? Plus. when i meet them i am about 180. due to lifts. They said 182 is Okay. 183? too tall already. Most of them came to the same conclusion: 183 is too tall in Singapore. I was so shocked. I wanted 188 or so but  I was forced to concede. There is a certain extent, whereby things are really too much. And height is one thing. You can be skinny and attractive, but too skinny for a woman? Nope, not attractive. Look up attractiveness theories: average face is somewhat more attractive. This confirms my hypothesis that "too tall" or 3 standard deviations or so from average, is really, not attractive.

If you were to look at your infographic carefully the ideal height is about 6 feet, that is where the peak is. It experiences that decline that I spoke about (remember? my anecdotal evidence. which is now supported) after about 6 feet or 6'1". As I have already said, in America, too tall is probably 185 - 188 cm.

I like this infographic.Where did you get it from? it inadvertently supports my conclusions because you have very poor comprehension and reading skills. I wonder if you even went into a university, let alone high school.

[Shor7Guy]

I did not ask my family members.  I have asked female friends and random girls on the internet. Why would they lie to me, if they do not know about my surgery? Plus. when i meet them i am about 180. due to lifts. They said 182 is Okay. 183? too tall already. Most of them came to the same conclusion: 183 is too tall in Singapore. I was so shocked. I wanted 188 or so but  I was forced to concede. There is a certain extent, whereby things are really too much. And height is one thing. You can be skinny and attractive, but too skinny for a woman? Nope, not attractive. Look up attractiveness theories: average face is somewhat more attractive. This confirms my hypothesis that "too tall" or 3 standard deviations or so from average, is really, not attractive.

If you were to look at your infographic carefully the ideal height is about 6 feet, that is where the peak is. It experiences that decline that I spoke about (remember? my anecdotal evidence. which is now supported) after about 6 feet or 6'1". As I have already said, in America, too tall is probably 185 - 188 cm.

I like this infographic.Where did you get it from? it inadvertently supports my conclusions because you have very poor comprehension and reading skills. I wonder if you even went into a university, let alone high school.

go to a party and see for yourself, the 6foot7 hunk will get all the attention. the fact that girls say 6foot is too tall, means 6foot is the minimum height they see worthy of an Short Term Relationship. when you ask girls what the ideal height is, they telling you in terms of Long Term Relationship, not STR. They want men at taht height so they dont have to worry about you cheating on them, and so they can control the relationship (not being outshined by their partner)

[ItsMyLife]

If based on that infographic, 6'1 (185 cm) is the ideal height in America, I am worried about Singapore.  Am I past the peak? Am I too tall?

The difference in average heights between America and Singapore is about 176 - 172 = 4 cm.

So it stands to reason that 185 - 4 cm = 181 cm is the ideal height in Singapore.

Thank God I am able to reach 181 cm  (at least, its my night height!)

[ItsMyLife]

go to a party and see for yourself, the 6foot7 hunk will get all the attention. the fact that girls say 6foot is too tall, means 6foot is the minimum height they see worthy of an Short Term Relationship. when you ask girls what the ideal height is, they telling you in terms of Long Term Relationship, not STR. They want men at taht height so they dont have to worry about you cheating on them, and so they can control the relationship (not being outshined by their partner)

Nope. their reason is: hes too tall, weird, awkward when we go out, too big height difference, etc
it has been shown conclusively that the ideal difference between male and female height is 12 cm
Pls tell me what is the source of your infographic because it firmly supports my earlier observations. thanks bro! 
if anything I asked a gay friend, whats the ideal height of your bf. He said 181 is fine, 182 abit too tall, and 183 is too tall (he is himself, 181 cm - quite a common height in singpaore nowadays).
I asked another gay, he said, 180 is too tall. see? im sure the minds of girls and gays are similar. the short gays want tall guy partners to fk them, but not too tall.

fact: not all women want to be shrimps. musicmaker and diso surely don't want to. if they are the only female posting members, I think... hmmm., surely in the general population, this thought is replicated. I don't believe that females want males who are 20-30 cm above them. If the average height of a female in America is 162, a good difference between male and female is apparently 12- 15 cm, so 177 is probably good. 188? that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay pushing it.

[ItsMyLife]

go to a party and see for yourself, the 6foot7 hunk will get all the attention. the fact that girls say 6foot is too tall, means 6foot is the minimum height they see worthy of an Short Term Relationship. when you ask girls what the ideal height is, they telling you in terms of Long Term Relationship, not STR. They want men at taht height so they dont have to worry about you cheating on them, and so they can control the relationship (not being outshined by their partner)

matter of fact? in Singapore, the hunks get the attention, and they aren't even 183 (maybe a small percent are). most hunks are about 170, 173 is common, 175 probably , 178 is already pushing it. the taller u get, harder to build muscles.
but I can possibly agree with your comment in the other thread (distorted views of members thread). it is a defensible opinion. but I don't think it holds much water.

[meursault]

I did not ask my family members.  I have asked female friends and random girls on the internet. Why would they lie to me, if they do not know about my surgery? Plus. when i meet them i am about 180. due to lifts. They said 182 is Okay. 183? too tall already. Most of them came to the same conclusion: 183 is too tall in Singapore. I was so shocked. I wanted 188 or so but  I was forced to concede. There is a certain extent, whereby things are really too much. And height is one thing. You can be skinny and attractive, but too skinny for a woman? Nope, not attractive. Look up attractiveness theories: average face is somewhat more attractive. This confirms my hypothesis that "too tall" or 3 standard deviations or so from average, is really, not attractive.

If you were to look at your infographic carefully the ideal height is about 6 feet, that is where the peak is. It experiences that decline that I spoke about (remember? my anecdotal evidence. which is now supported) after about 6 feet or 6'1". As I have already said, in America, too tall is probably 185 - 188 cm.

I like this infographic.Where did you get it from? it inadvertently supports my conclusions because you have very poor comprehension and reading skills. I wonder if you even went into a university, let alone high school.

The peak is at 6'1" actually, i'm sorry you couldn't discern that because you are too drugged up from your surgery in your quest to become tall for your country. If you notice, all heights between 6'1" and 6'5" and males that are 6'7" receive MORE messages than 6'0" males. But that's splitting hairs at this point, the most important thing to note is that the claim of being too tall at such heights are vastly unsupported/overstated.

[meursault]

I wanted 188 or so but  I was forced to concede.

[ItsMyLife]

The peak is at 6'1" actually, i'm sorry you couldn't discern that because you are too drugged up from your surgery in your quest to become tall for your country. If you notice, all heights between 6'1" and 6'5" and males that are 6'7" receive MORE messages than 6'0" males. But that's splitting hairs at this point, the most important thing to note is that the claim of being too tall at such heights are vastly unsupported/overstated.

I am only on paracetamol (even I am off that, in the morning and last night until the slight pains kick in)
Anyway thanks to your graph, as I said the peak is 6'0 or 6'1. I used ruler to see clearly and yes the peak is 6'1.
Hence anything above 6'1 is too tall already.
For an average guy or slightly average guy doing LL, I would advise him only to go to 6'1 if it is in America (if that is where the infographic is, and if it is accurate).
we have to know your source, dude. instead of just throwing random images. are you even university educated?

[ItsMyLife]

Yup I was forced to concede when I asked so many girls and 183 was too tall in my country.
I wantd to do 188 cm, and I am capable of doing so (if I do a second femur surgery).
However, from my surveys, and I don't wanna jeopardise my love life, 183 is too tall, and so, I will NOT go to 188.

[ReadRothbard]

Seeing you scramble to piece together your annihilated fragments is pretty hilarious. First you claim that no country has an average height of 6', and you were [rightfully] told off by me. Now you're throwing numbers at me about the height of Scandinavian military conscripts (not even the general population), when I wasn't even talking about Scandinavia; I was talking about the Netherlands. I didn't even mention the more rural areas of the dinaric alps, which have average male heights of 6'1 and over. To make it even better, these Scandinavian heights you are throwing at me are only very slightly beneath the 6 feet you claimed no country had as an average. You're humiliating yourself.

The fact of the matter is that the men at the heights you claim to be 'too tall' have no struggles in the dating market whatsoever, certainly not due to their height. You can throw anecdotes at me, and I can respond with accounts of tall men with decent faces I've known getting massive amounts of female attention (far more than those of average height) by just breathing.

Of course your female friends and family members would lie to you, maybe they even believe what they're saying. But womens' actions are different, it means nothing next to the vim and desire with which a woman looks upon a tall man. Just like a woman saying your face isn't that big of a deal or something of the sort.



Furthermore, being 'too tall' is infinitely superior to being 'too short'. 'Too short' is essentially a sexual death sentence every single time, whereas 'too tall' carries much less of a negative connotation- we're more talking preferences and nitpicking rather than visceral disgust that women have toward men beneath their height threshold. They would date a man who is 'too tall', while they would never consider a man who is 'too short'. This isn't even mentioning women who prefer that height.

Funny how the ideal height coincides perfectly with the height you can (and desire to) achieve with limb lengthening surgery. Maybe it's not ideal though, just a thought.

I can't wait until I'm 6'0. I do well with women already; when I hit 6'0, I'm going to slay like there is no tomorrow!

[ItsMyLife]

I can't wait until I'm 6'0. I do well with women already; when I hit 6'0, I'm going to slay like there is no tomorrow!

As his data supports my anecdotal evidence, 6'0 is a good height, 6'1 too  (in America). Where do you stay?

[meursault]

I am only on paracetamol (even I am off that, in the morning and last night until the slight pains kick in)
Anyway thanks to your graph, as I said the peak is 6'0 or 6'1. I used ruler to see clearly and yes the peak is 6'1.
Hence anything above 6'1 is too tall already.
For an average guy or slightly average guy doing LL, I would advise him only to go to 6'1 if it is in America (if that is where the infographic is, and if it is accurate).
we have to know your source, dude. instead of just throwing random images. are you even university educated?

I think you're missing the context of the graph. The point was not to autistically break out your ruler to find the highest point (which is only infinitesimally larger than the 6'4" and 6'7" points really), but to show you that your 'too tall' hysteria is irrational and that tall men aren't these freaks shunned by women like you like to convince yourself.

The source is data collected from okcupid, the graph is on the page

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-biggest-lies-in-online-dating/

Also, this isn't taking into account other factors. This is just a graph of height and messages received without being controlled for anything else, so of course it's going to jump around slightly (using the same logic you applied to the graph being 5'3" would be superior to being 5'4" which is laughable). I'm just demolishing your 'too tall' nonsense, as though men above 6'1" are totally undesired by women. You made it out to be as though really tall men are these sexual pariahs women want nothing to do with. So much for that asinine theory.

Obsessing over university status, what a joke man. This is really a huge thing in Asian culture, isn't it? The sooner you realise attractive 6'1+ losers who never went to a university that stack shelves and pump gas for a living are getting more tits and pussy snapchats on the weekly than you will get in your entire life (and in general living a superior life to you, going to more cool parties than you, banging badder bitches than you), the better.

By the way, I have another interesting thing you can mull over if you're so fascinated with the points on a graph, my friend. From the same source (http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-biggest-lies-in-online-dating/)



How can you honestly go so quick from spouting how awful being 'too tall' is to arguing semantics with me, when I was just trying to show you this 'too tall' nonsense you were vomiting up earlier was total bull ? Are you really so naive as to think very tall men are undesired by women and that there's some massive dropoff at your goal height?

[Shor7Guy]

Obsessing over university status, what a joke man. This is really a huge thing in Asian culture, isn't it? The sooner you realise attractive 6'1+ losers who never went to a university that stack shelves and pump gas for a living are getting more tits and pussy snapchats on the weekly than you will get in your entire life (and in general living a superior life to you, going to more cool parties than you, banging badder bitches than you), the better.

hard hitting red pill.

[ItsMyLife]

I think you're missing the context of the graph. The point was not to autistically break out your ruler to find the highest point (which is only infinitesimally larger than the 6'4" and 6'7" points really), but to show you that your 'too tall' hysteria is irrational and that tall men aren't these freaks shunned by women like you like to convince yourself.

The source is data collected from okcupid, the graph is on the page

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-biggest-lies-in-online-dating/

Also, this isn't taking into account other factors. This is just a graph of height and messages received without being controlled for anything else, so of course it's going to jump around slightly (using the same logic you applied to the graph being 5'3" would be superior to being 5'4" which is laughable). I'm just demolishing your 'too tall' nonsense, as though men above 6'1" are totally undesired by women. You made it out to be as though really tall men are these sexual pariahs women want nothing to do with. So much for that asinine theory.

Obsessing over university status, what a joke man. This is really a huge thing in Asian culture, isn't it? The sooner you realise attractive 6'1+ losers who never went to a university that stack shelves and pump gas for a living are getting more tits and pussy snapchats on the weekly than you will get in your entire life (and in general living a superior life to you, going to more cool parties than you, banging badder bitches than you), the better.

By the way, I have another interesting thing you can mull over if you're so fascinated with the points on a graph, my friend. From the same source (http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-biggest-lies-in-online-dating/)



How can you honestly go so quick from spouting how awful being 'too tall' (anything above 6'2" to you, according to your posts) is to arguing semantics with me when I was just trying to show you this 'too tall' nonsense you were vomiting up earlier was total bullcrap?

Its not bull . You are the bull- ter who didn't go to university. I dislike chatting with people of low IQ but for the sake of explaining myself. I will sympathise and explain.

The graph obviously shows that there is a plateau and a peak. That plateau starts at 6'1. Given that returns diminish above 6'1, it is illogical for someone who is 170 cm for instance to want to reach 6'5.

This is ALSO supported by my own anecdotal evidence. I put this question to you again: Do you want an opinion poll on a girls' forum like flower pod or cozycot in Singapore?

[ItsMyLife]

Obsessing over university status, what a joke man. This is really a huge thing in Asian culture, isn't it? The sooner you realise attractive 6'1+ losers who never went to a university that stack shelves and pump gas for a living are getting more tits and pussy snapchats on the weekly than you will get in your entire life (and in general living a superior life to you, going to more cool parties than you, banging badder bitches than you), the better.

haha oh my god. dude, the popular guys in my community are mostly 173, 175, 178 maximum. I've never heard of a 180 guy being popular yet. Apparently some here think that 180 is good, and I just doing it not for girls, but to feel tall here. I found that to feel tall here the minimum is 182-ish.

perhaps American culture is differnet. but here in asia, nope. the average guys (or slightly tall guys) are more popular

dude Ive so much good sex banging 18 year olds pretending I am 18 sometimes. its a good life., you are one jealous prick.

and for the record, the only dating app I use, when my height is 183 vs 178, there is no difference. Because the average here is 172. Anything significantly above average, theres not much difference. IN fact, when I put 183, mostly only taller (and not as attractive) girls speak to me. SO I will choose perhaps 181 or something:D

as far as Asia goes, average or slightly above average is better, or 182 (above average, close to too tall). perhaps its the entire pop culture here of being pretty boy.

if the gay or bisexual community is similar to girls, then the most ideal height appears to be about 173-178 here. At least, with the guys I know. I guess we can draw a similarity between girls and gays.

So, yeap, not too tall 

to be honest, I am now about 180 and I don't know if I should push it to 183. I was very worried about becoming "too tall".

I mean
* I want a good dating life BUT
* I want to feel tall

Those are two mutually exclusive things. If u were to ask me, I think feeling tall is more important to me than getting the most girls. If I get more girls at 178, and it is proven, I will still go to 181 in a heartbeat. 182 maybe not.. its all about balancing.

[ItsMyLife]

oh trust me, if your theory is correct (and mine is wrong, ie there is no such thing as too tall), I will gladly wanna go to 188cm.

But truth is, according to law, taller is not better; it is better to a certain extent.

I really wanna go above 6 feet in my country, because I wanna feel tall here.

BUT it will adversely affect my dating life.

if your theory is right, I will lengthen beyond 6 feet.

Sadly ur wrong.

[ItsMyLife]

oh yes instead of me being insecure (yes I did my research and decided my final height, it is firm as stone), are you the insecure one?

are you the one without girls? (read my posts, I even had girls love me when I am crippled as I am now. and them complimenting my llooks and my physique (six pack)).

tell us, what is your starting height? I am sure I am bursting your bubble. You must be about 182 wanting to lengthen to 190 or something.

Please get a grip of yourself or suffer an acute MI (I know, as a medical student I shouldn't be so mean, but who was talking nonsense all this while and insinuating that im insecure??)

[ItsMyLife]

theres a possible theory though, that our cultures are so different that you have a different mindset. to any Asian, your mindset is distorted.

a good height here is probably up to 182 or 183 maximum. beyond that, there are diminishing (or negative) returns.

for top leadership positions, our prime minister has been consistently very tall (185, 182, 187) But they are more of the anomaly. most MPs here are either short or average, or slightly tall.

there are two possibilities
* you have mental illness and/or a lack of education and/or distorted mindset
OR *our cultures are too different that it is impossible to extrapolate my findings in Singapore to your country (where are you from?)

either way, my assertions about what happens in America is just a theory. I am sure this is what happens in Singapore, and quite sure it happens in America. But as I have read in other posts, there might be cultural and societal differences

I am inclined to take the first view that you have mental illness etc because I don't think two societies can be so different. we have a very western culture., we speak English, we read English, we listen to English songs more than Chinese, etc.

this is what a university education means. I have essentially obliterated your entire baseless accusations and asinine theories. this is a good argument. I was telling my lawyer friend I developed a past-time of arguing with people on the internet because I can control my emotions very well and it makes  me pleasured to see them flustered and at a losing end, being totally defeated by my valid arguments.  I have enjoyed this debate, and hope you can reply to me senselessly again. one advantage of a forum is that both views are put in black and white, and members can see how foolish (and the gross logical fallacies within) your reasoning is.

[ItsMyLife]

Re: sex partners graph showing that 195 cm has more sex partners.
First, how accurate is the source? second, the fact they have more sex partners DOES NOT mean that they have more dates and long -term relationships. the girl probably thinks ah, this guy is too tall for a steady partner, he is just a one night stand 
it is a joke how fragile your arguments are. please go to high school at least.
even if you are correct, which is unlikely, it might just be a construct of the west, as in asia, the situation is diametrically opposite. the good looking guys tend to be about 170-178, maybe 180 is pushing it. the very tall guys here eg 183++ are usually not good looking, and thus they get less guys and girls.

[GeTs]

This forum,is getting weirder each day without an admin

[endomorphisme]

I"m 183 cm and now I want to be 195 cm which is reachable, because of this thread

[Shor7Guy]

ItsMyLife, if you really wanted to be 6foot2, youd be welcoming to information and believe it, cus people believe what they want to believe. clearly you want to believe 6foot is too tall in your country, i doubt you think you can reach 6foot2, whether it be money problems, time consuming or proportions.

[endomorphisme]

Mersaut is right,  183 cm is the bare minimum, 185 cm is enjoyable, 188 cm is good, 190 cm is very good and 193 cm is god mod activated, every girls want your penjs and you dominate people which is a delicious feeling.
193 cm here I am!

[endomorphisme]

Oh and mersault how tall are you?

[ItsMyLife]

Mersaut is right,  183 cm is the bare minimum, 185 cm is enjoyable, 188 cm is good, 190 cm is very good and 193 cm is god mod activated, every girls want your penjs and you dominate people which is a delicious feeling.
193 cm here I am!

That is not true as far as Asian countries are concerned. I wish I could be tall AND get girls.
If I were given a pill which would make me 190 or 182, I would choose 182 as I want to be a pretty boy and get girls.

[ItsMyLife]

ItsMyLife, if you really wanted to be 6foot2, youd be welcoming to information and believe it, cus people believe what they want to believe. clearly you want to believe 6foot is too tall in your country, i doubt you think you can reach 6foot2, whether it be money problems, time consuming or proportions.

Dude, I surveyed so many guys (gay and straight) and girls. 6'2" is too tall for my country. I wish I can go there. I will be 6' at the end of my surgery and Prof Bagirov said that he recommends me 4 cm (2 inches on my femur). But later, he told me its better to do just tibia perhaps.

I want to be 6'2. But there are many problems. One of it is reduced attractiveness. In my country at least. I can easily handle another 4 cm, and the cost of 6500 euros is not much, or even less with Dr Solomin

[endomorphisme]

That is not true as far as Asian countries are concerned. I wish I could be tall AND get girls.
If I were given a pill which would make me 190 or 182, I would choose 182 as I want to be a pretty boy and get girls.

you Re Not the center of the universe, 90% of the members registered on the forum are white and young, we'rd talking for Europe and the US, no one care of Asian countries.